Asilimia 80% ya mizigo ya Uganda kutumia SGR

MK254 · Jun 27, 2017

Kenya’s Standard Gauge Railway (SGR) has received a major boost after Uganda committed to ferry construction materials and bulky transit goods through its networks.

The two states have agreed that the Naivasha-Malaba and Malaba-Kampala will be executed by Chinese contractors in 42 months.

“The Republic of Uganda has committed to ensure that at least 80 per cent of all cargo destined for Uganda will be transported by the SGR. The details of the mechanisms will be discussed,” the two states said in joint statement.

To the operator of SGR section, the statement offers another veil of protection after the Kenya Ports Authority also declared a policy to initially reserve 40 per cent of its cargo for fast trains.

The two governments said 60 per cent of rail inputs will be shipped in from China with up to 40 per cent of quota being reserved for local companies in the two countries.

Kenya’s technical team will provide assistance as well as train Ugandan technicians and other workers on SGR construction technology.

Transport Secretary James Macharia said Kenya was keen to extend the SGR facility to Malaba since Uganda had committed to channeling 80 per cent of their export and imported goods via SGR.

Mr Macharia spoke last week when he led top ministry officials to Uganda for an inter-governmental meeting on the planned SGR extension project.

His Uganda counterpart, Ms Monica Aruba, said Kampala was committed to implementing the project which will be jointly funded by China’s export and Import Bank (EXIM) at a cost of Sh230 billion.

Up to 80 per cent of land along the proposed 273-kilometre Malaba-Kampala SGR route has since been acquired with more funds allocated in this year’s budget to acquire the remaining parcels of land.

On its part, Kenya is currently putting up the 120 kilometre Naivasha-Nairobi SGR at a cost of 150 billion while the Kisumu-Nairobi SGR project will cost Sh 370billion.

Ms Aruba urged Kenya to also solicit for funding of the Kisumu-Malaba SGR project to facilitate faster completion of the project said to offer a much cheaper alternative to road transport.

The SGR facility also gives DRC, Rwanda and Burundi a new way to ferry goods to Mombasa for export and also receive imports nearer home, thereby helping reduce costs as well as time spent on the road.
Uganda pledges 80pc of transit goods to SGR trains

Mwanzi1 · Jun 27, 2017

MK254 said:
Kenya’s Standard Gauge Railway (SGR) has received a major boost after Uganda committed to ferry construction materials and bulky transit goods through its networks.

The two states have agreed that the Naivasha-Malaba and Malaba-Kampala will be executed by Chinese contractors in 42 months.

“The Republic of Uganda has committed to ensure that at least 80 per cent of all cargo destined for Uganda will be transported by the SGR. The details of the mechanisms will be discussed,” the two states said in joint statement.

To the operator of SGR section, the statement offers another veil of protection after the Kenya Ports Authority also declared a policy to initially reserve 40 per cent of its cargo for fast trains.

The two governments said 60 per cent of rail inputs will be shipped in from China with up to 40 per cent of quota being reserved for local companies in the two countries.

Kenya’s technical team will provide assistance as well as train Ugandan technicians and other workers on SGR construction technology.

Transport Secretary James Macharia said Kenya was keen to extend the SGR facility to Malaba since Uganda had committed to channeling 80 per cent of their export and imported goods via SGR.

Mr Macharia spoke last week when he led top ministry officials to Uganda for an inter-governmental meeting on the planned SGR extension project.

His Uganda counterpart, Ms Monica Aruba, said Kampala was committed to implementing the project which will be jointly funded by China’s export and Import Bank (EXIM) at a cost of Sh230 billion.

Up to 80 per cent of land along the proposed 273-kilometre Malaba-Kampala SGR route has since been acquired with more funds allocated in this year’s budget to acquire the remaining parcels of land.

On its part, Kenya is currently putting up the 120 kilometre Naivasha-Nairobi SGR at a cost of 150 billion while the Kisumu-Nairobi SGR project will cost Sh 370billion.

Ms Aruba urged Kenya to also solicit for funding of the Kisumu-Malaba SGR project to facilitate faster completion of the project said to offer a much cheaper alternative to road transport.

The SGR facility also gives DRC, Rwanda and Burundi a new way to ferry goods to Mombasa for export and also receive imports nearer home, thereby helping reduce costs as well as time spent on the road.
Uganda pledges 80pc of transit goods to SGR trains

Ati nini???

Kenya’s technical team will provide assistance as well as train Ugandan technicians and other workers on SGR construction technology.

MK254 · Jun 27, 2017

Mwanzi1 said:
Ati nini???

Kenya’s technical team will provide assistance as well as train Ugandan technicians and other workers on SGR construction technology.

Yeah because we adapt very fast. Kenya has the most vibrant human resource in East and Central Africa.

Mwanzi1 · Jun 27, 2017

MK254 said:
Yeah because we adapt very fast. Kenya has the most vibrant human resource in East and Central Africa.

This is an insult to Uganda's, technically Kenya itself hasn't got SGR yet. Because Madaraka Express is still in the hands of Chinese.

MK254 · Jun 27, 2017

Mwanzi1 said:
This is an insult to Uganda's, technically Kenya itself hasn't got SGR yet. Because Madaraka Express is still in the hands of Chinese.

There is a difference between railway construction and trains operations, Kenyan engineers participated in implementation of SGR, and since they are quick learners, they will train the rest of EAC.
At some point Tz will be forced to swallow its pride and send own people to get some classes just like you did in geothermal plant.

Mwanzi1 · Jun 28, 2017

MK254 said:
There is a difference between railway construction and trains operations, Kenyan engineers participated in implementation of SGR, and since they are quick learners, they will train the rest of EAC.
At some point Tz will be forced to swallow its pride and send own people to get some classes just like you did in geothermal plant.

The same way we're teaching Kenyans how to run BRT.

So Kenyan's are fast learners, Tanzanians and Ugandans are not. Your forgetting Tanzania is busy building its own SGR day and night. Tena is electric which Kenya haven't got a clue how to build or operate.

MK254 · Jun 28, 2017

Mwanzi1 said:
The same way we're teaching Kenyans how to run BRT.

So Kenyan's are fast learners, Tanzanians and Ugandans are not. Your forgetting Tanzania is busy building its own SGR day and night. Tena is electric which Kenya haven't got a clue how to build or operate.

BRT can't work for Kenya, and I can't think of anyone coming to waste time to learn how to mismanage BRT, because it's been chaotic all along.
As for Tanzania SGR, up until we see smoke, everything else will remain a mirage, you took us round and round with Bagamoyo port such that we can't believe anything from you until we see it happening.

Anyway, on issue pertaining Kenyans' aptitude, the ranking has been out there, no need to argue with you....
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Recent rankings conducted in December place Kenya 4th on the list of Africa’s most influential countries. The East African country came a close fourth after South Africa, Ethiopia and Egypt. The OSINT rankings place Kenya as the country with the most educated population making it a major human resource capital powerhouse in the continent.

Kenya’s infrastructure development is fast catching up with oil and mineral rich Arab countries and South Africa attributed to the rigorous efforts to achieve the country’s Vision 2030.
Kenya Ranked 4th Most Influential Country In Africa; Beats Resource-Rich Countries

Metsada · Jun 28, 2017

MK254 said:
Kenya’s Standard Gauge Railway (SGR) has received a major boost after Uganda committed to ferry construction materials and bulky transit goods through its networks.

The two states have agreed that the Naivasha-Malaba and Malaba-Kampala will be executed by Chinese contractors in 42 months.

“The Republic of Uganda has committed to ensure that at least 80 per cent of all cargo destined for Uganda will be transported by the SGR. The details of the mechanisms will be discussed,” the two states said in joint statement.

To the operator of SGR section, the statement offers another veil of protection after the Kenya Ports Authority also declared a policy to initially reserve 40 per cent of its cargo for fast trains.

The two governments said 60 per cent of rail inputs will be shipped in from China with up to 40 per cent of quota being reserved for local companies in the two countries.

Kenya’s technical team will provide assistance as well as train Ugandan technicians and other workers on SGR construction technology.

Transport Secretary James Macharia said Kenya was keen to extend the SGR facility to Malaba since Uganda had committed to channeling 80 per cent of their export and imported goods via SGR.

Mr Macharia spoke last week when he led top ministry officials to Uganda for an inter-governmental meeting on the planned SGR extension project.

His Uganda counterpart, Ms Monica Aruba, said Kampala was committed to implementing the project which will be jointly funded by China’s export and Import Bank (EXIM) at a cost of Sh230 billion.

Up to 80 per cent of land along the proposed 273-kilometre Malaba-Kampala SGR route has since been acquired with more funds allocated in this year’s budget to acquire the remaining parcels of land.

On its part, Kenya is currently putting up the 120 kilometre Naivasha-Nairobi SGR at a cost of 150 billion while the Kisumu-Nairobi SGR project will cost Sh 370billion.

Ms Aruba urged Kenya to also solicit for funding of the Kisumu-Malaba SGR project to facilitate faster completion of the project said to offer a much cheaper alternative to road transport.

The SGR facility also gives DRC, Rwanda and Burundi a new way to ferry goods to Mombasa for export and also receive imports nearer home, thereby helping reduce costs as well as time spent on the road.
Uganda pledges 80pc of transit goods to SGR trains

HONGERA

Mwanzi1 · Jun 28, 2017

MK254 said:
BRT can't work for Kenya, and I can't think of anyone coming to waste time to learn how to mismanage BRT, because it's been chaotic all along.
As for Tanzania SGR, up until we see smoke, everything else will remain a mirage, you took us round and round with Bagamoyo port such that we can't believe anything from you until we see it happening.

Anyway, on issue pertaining Kenyans' aptitude, the ranking has been out there, no need to argue with you....
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Recent rankings conducted in December place Kenya 4th on the list of Africa’s most influential countries. The East African country came a close fourth after South Africa, Ethiopia and Egypt. The OSINT rankings place Kenya as the country with the most educated population making it a major human resource capital powerhouse in the continent.

Kenya’s infrastructure development is fast catching up with oil and mineral rich Arab countries and South Africa attributed to the rigorous efforts to achieve the country’s Vision 2030.
Kenya Ranked 4th Most Influential Country In Africa; Beats Resource-Rich Countries

I'll take that was your personal opinion about Dar BRT, because it contradict with Kenyan transport experts are saying, plus millions of Nairobi frustrated commuters who have been yearning for better and reliable transport solution.

Lessons from Dar on unclogging city traffic jams

We are not in any obligation to give you or anyone else progress report on our development projects, we're not here to score cheap points. The best thing to do is to wait and see.

When you said Kenya came 4th influential country Africa, influence to whom Tanzania??. Geopolitics isn't Kenya's thing, Kenya abandoned her geopolitical influence since 1977 in favour of financial influence. But on this part of the world, financial influence doesn't give you much if you haven't got political influence. Just go back to what Museveni had said in regard to pipeline deal going to Tanzania.

BTW the link you posted was from 2015, much has change since then.

Jay456watt · Jun 28, 2017

Mwanzi1 said:
I'll take that was your personal opinion about Dar BRT, because it contradict with Kenyan transport experts are saying, plus millions of Nairobi frustrated commuters who have been yearning for better and reliable transport solution.

Lessons from Dar on unclogging city traffic jams

We are not in any obligation to give you or anyone else progress report on our development projects, we're not here to score cheap points. The best thing to do is to wait and see.

When you said Kenya came 4th influential country Africa, influence to whom Tanzania??. Geopolitics isn't Kenya's thing, Kenya abandoned her geopolitical influence since 1977 in favour of financial influence. But on this part of the world, financial influence doesn't give you much if you haven't got political influence. Just go back to what Museveni had said in regard to pipeline deal going to Tanzania.

BTW the link you posted was from 2015, much has change since then.

BRT may have worked for Dar but that doesnt mean it'll also work for Nairobi...a light rail is much more feasible...having said that, I would still like to laud the Dar BRT and reiterate my admiration to the project...it is a good example of what African countries should strive to embrace..in relation to influence, please dude stop ushabik and use ur brain just for a sec...Kenya is much more influential than any other East and Central African nation with the exception of Ethiopia...why? because of Ethiopia's African Union (AU) link...

also Kenya is the unofficial bargainer for the East Africa Community so to speak due to its larger economical, political and socio-economic status...this does not in any way mean that it can sway TZ to do whatever it wants but please bear in mind that it is the leading economy in the region, the entry for foreign investors into the region..for instance, when Starbucks or any other multinational wants to expand their foothold on the East African region, they pass through Nairobi first....nations such as UG depend on Kenya for its coastline..when they call presidents to attend globally renowned events they call the more influential leaders of the continent (Buhari, Sisi, Kenyatta, Desalegn and Zuma)..

thats why in the list SA came first, Egypt, Ethiopia and then Kenya...Nigeria follows and mind you Rwanda was named to be more influential than TZ...in relation to presidents, Museveni and Kenyatta are the only East African leaders mentioned...now I know you love ur country but to say the truth, it is not as influential as you think....in fact not even many ppl know Tanzania...I witnessed this fact in Amsterdam several years ago in a student forum...

Bukyanagandi · Jun 28, 2017

MK254 said:
Yeah because we adapt very fast. Kenya has the most vibrant human resource in East and Central Africa.

MK254 hapa si mnadanganyana na M7 tu!! Mbona mwezi uliopita nilimsikia Waziri au naibu wake akisema ujenzi wa reli kutoka Malaba mpaka Uganda utakuwa wa gharama kubwa kutokana na sehemu ya Uganda kuzungukwa na tinga tinga - sikuona Uganda ikiwa so keen na ujenzi wa reli hiyo.

Kitu kingine, hivi a landlocked state ikipewa bandari yake mahususi ya kupitisha bidhaa/mizigo yake,je, kwa mawazo yako unafikiri mteja atakimbilia kuwekeza/tumia Bandari hipi - ya ushindani au yenye kushugurikia predominantly mizigo yake - think again Bro, sisi tunaweza kuwa a bit slow katika kutekeleza Project zetu ya ujenzi wa reli to SGR lakini reli yetu ikikamilika tutawapa wakati mgumu katika biashara hii ya kusafirisha mizingo kwa njia ya reli kwenda nchi jirani - MK254,mark my word utakuja niambia.

MK254 · Jun 28, 2017

Bukyanagandi said:
MK254 hapa si mnadanganyana na M7 tu!! Mbona mwezi uliopita nilimsikia Waziri au naibu wake akisema ujenzi wa reli kutoka Malaba mpaka Uganda utakuwa wa gharama kubwa kutokana na sehemu ya Uganda kuzungukwa na tinga tinga - sikuona Uganda ikiwa so keen na ujenzi wa reli hiyo.

Kitu kingine, hivi a landlocked state ikipewa bandari yake mahususi ya kupitisha bidhaa/mizigo yake,je, kwa mawazo yako unafikiri mteja atakimbilia kuwekeza/tumia Bandari hipi - ya ushindani au yenye kushugurikia predominantly mizigo yake - think again Bro, sisi tunaweza kuwa a bit slow katika kutekeleza Project zetu ya ujenzi wa reli to SGR lakini reli yetu ikikamilika tutawapa wakati mgumu katika biashara hii ya kusafirisha mizingo kwa njia ya reli kwenda nchi jirani - MK254,mark my word utakuja niambia.

Kaka vyote unavyovitaja vipo futuristic, hapa tunaongea kuhusu vilivyomo, kumbukuka kwa muda wote tumekuwa tukiwapa ushindani kwa mizigo hata ya Rwanda, DRC na Tanzania kanda ya ziwa na Kaskazini ilhali hatukua na SGR. Leo hii SGR itafika Malaba mpakani na nyingine kuja mpaka ziwa Victoria, mwisho wa siku wana biashara ndio wenye maamuzi.

Kuna maboresho makubwa na yenye gharama kubwa tunayafanya kwenye bandari na mifumo ya usafiri, sio ajabu ukiona tukiwapa kila baadhi ya hizo nchi kuwa na sehemu yao kwenye bandari yetu. Tunaongeza hadi bandari ya pili kubwa sana, sisi tupo kivitendo zaidi.

MK254 · Jun 28, 2017

Mwanzi1 said:
I'll take that was your personal opinion about Dar BRT, because it contradict with Kenyan transport experts are saying, plus millions of Nairobi frustrated commuters who have been yearning for better and reliable transport solution.

Lessons from Dar on unclogging city traffic jams

We are not in any obligation to give you or anyone else progress report on our development projects, we're not here to score cheap points. The best thing to do is to wait and see.

When you said Kenya came 4th influential country Africa, influence to whom Tanzania??. Geopolitics isn't Kenya's thing, Kenya abandoned her geopolitical influence since 1977 in favour of financial influence. But on this part of the world, financial influence doesn't give you much if you haven't got political influence. Just go back to what Museveni had said in regard to pipeline deal going to Tanzania.

BTW the link you posted was from 2015, much has change since then.

The so called transport 'expert' has given his view based on one side of the coin, most likely after interviewing the operator or some government official. He should have stayed in Dar for a while and do proper research before penning the article.

BRT can mesmerize an outsider who relies on marvelous photos of those buses. But is a different story for Dar residents who have to struggle with facts such as delays caused by buses arriving late and no other available means as daladalas have been chucked off those routes, less buses as compared to the masses of passengers, thus the stampede that's experienced everyday, unavailability of stock of cards most of the time etc etc I can go on and on with reasons why there is no much for us to send Kenyans to come and learn there. I wouldn't want such chaos be introduced in Nairobi, we have to do it right by implementing light rails.

As for development scorecard obligation to reporting to us, well good, you're not bound but on the same breadth don't come bragging to us about projects and are not ready to give report. That has become a trend now, you come vaunting about your SGR but when challenged to show anything/progress even some smoke, you blurt out about not obligated to report to us. I remember this is how you ping-ponged with Bagamoyo port until it turned out to be one massive lie.

Kenya's influence, I couldn't add more to what Jay456watt has put so aptly.

Bukyanagandi · Jun 28, 2017

MK254 said:
Kaka vyote unavyovitaja vipo futuristic, hapa tunaongea kuhusu vilivyomo, kumbukuka kwa muda wote tumekuwa tukiwapa ushindani kwa mizigo hata ya Rwanda, DRC na Tanzania kanda ya ziwa na Kaskazini ilhali hatukua na SGR. Leo hii SGR itafika Malaba mpakani na nyingine kuja mpaka ziwa Victoria, mwisho wa siku wana biashara ndio wenye maamuzi.

Kuna maboresho makubwa na yenye gharama kubwa tunayafanya kwenye bandari na mifumo ya usafiri, sio ajabu ukiona tukiwapa kila baadhi ya hizo nchi kuwa na sehemu yao kwenye bandari yetu. Tunaongeza hadi bandari ya pili kubwa sana, sisi tupo kivitendo zaidi.

Nakubaliana nawe, mwisho wa siku wenye maamuzi ya mwisho ni wafanya biashara - uwezi kuwalazimisha wapitishe mizigo yao wapi - hapo naona kwa upande wa Tanzania kuna haja ya kutulizana akili na ku-redouble our effort kwa kupanga mikakati kabambe ya kushindani nanyi katika biashara ya usafiri wa reli - isije ikawa mjanja kuwahi ndiye anaondoka na lion's share.

Mwanzi1 · Jun 28, 2017

Jay456watt said:
BRT may have worked for Dar but that doesnt mean it'll also work for Nairobi...a light rail is much more feasible...having said that, I would still like to laud the Dar BRT and reiterate my admiration to the project...it is a good example of what African countries should strive to embrace..in relation to influence, please dude stop ushabik and use ur brain just for a sec...Kenya is much more influential than any other East and Central African nation with the exception of Ethiopia...why? because of Ethiopia's African Union (AU) link...

also Kenya is the unofficial bargainer for the East Africa Community so to speak due to its larger economical, political and socio-economic status...this does not in any way mean that it can sway TZ to do whatever it wants but please bear in mind that it is the leading economy in the region, the entry for foreign investors into the region..for instance, when Starbucks or any other multinational wants to expand their foothold on the East African region, they pass through Nairobi first....nations such as UG depend on Kenya for its coastline..when they call presidents to attend globally renowned events they call the more influential leaders of the continent (Buhari, Sisi, Kenyatta, Desalegn and Zuma)..

thats why in the list SA came first, Egypt, Ethiopia and then Kenya...Nigeria follows and mind you Rwanda was named to be more influential than TZ...in relation to presidents, Museveni and Kenyatta are the only East African leaders mentioned...now I know you love ur country but to say the truth, it is not as influential as you think....in fact not even many ppl know Tanzania...I witnessed this fact in Amsterdam several years ago in a student forum...

I'm glad you've answered yourself, what's the difference between running BRT or light railways, the answer is none. Theyre both currying passengers, and they both have to move from A to B safety..

When it come to construction, Nairobi presents its own challenges. The city was build to reflect the design of London, but London is a Victorian city, there roads were designed for cart and horses. Today if Nairobi wants to build a light railways, some parts of track has to be elevated high above the ground as what you see in Tokyo or Singapore. There is no enough space to squeeze pedestrian, cars, BRT and other mode of transport.

As for the influence, I think it would be helpful if you familiarise yourself with how global influence works. Global influence is divided in three sections, money, politics and military. If you think that Kenyatta receiving invitation to the sidelines of G7 is an influence, then you really need to think again. When Kenyatta came to power, none of those foreign big wing leaders wanted anything to do with him, to them Kenyatta was still dripping blood on hands. After failed attempt of forcing the West to respect him and drop all the charges, he end up humiliating himself and rest of Africa by taking himself to very people he was craving whip on them. The West got what they wanted and today he's a saint and Kenya is an influential country.

Not long ago, Kikwete was invited everywhere, from oval office, to G8 and G7, he was invited to all corners of UN and so on. If the West or even the East for that matter wants something from you, they will invite you in everything, they call it the darling of the West. But as I said before, on our part of the world (EA), money and military won't take you anywhere if you haven't got political influence. And as far I can tell, Tanzania has bagged that long time ago from Namibia to Zambia to DRC all the way to Ethiopia.

How can you support the claim that Kenya is unofficial bargainer for the region, while for the past ten years we haven't seen any meaningful deal broken by Kenya on behalf of the region. Is it EPA ?, single Visa, regional trade deal with Asia or South America? Is it AGOA keeping the window open for mitumba? What is it?

Mwanzi1 · Jun 28, 2017

MK254 said:
The so called transport 'expert' has given his view based on one side of the coin, most likely after interviewing the operator or some government official. He should have stayed in Dar for a while and do proper research before penning the article.

BRT can mesmerize an outsider who relies on marvelous photos of those buses. But is a different story for Dar residents who have to struggle with facts such as delays caused by buses arriving late and no other available means as daladalas have been chucked off those routes, less buses as compared to the masses of passengers, thus the stampede that's experienced everyday, unavailability of stock of cards most of the time etc etc I can go on and on with reasons why there is no much for us to send Kenyans to come and learn there. I wouldn't want such chaos be introduced in Nairobi, we have to do it right by implementing light rails.

As for development scorecard obligation to reporting to us, well good, you're not bound but on the same breadth don't come bragging to us about projects and are not ready to give report. That has become a trend now, you come vaunting about your SGR but when challenged to show anything/progress even some smoke, you blurt out about not obligated to report to us. I remember this is how you ping-ponged with Bagamoyo port until it turned out to be one massive lie.

Kenya's influence, I couldn't add more to what Jay456watt has put so aptly.

Haha, the kick of dying horse, if what you're saying is true about kenya experts only visited operators and government officials (which I know for the fact is not true). Then that will be the silliness of your own people, maybe your experts did exactly the same thing we they went to China and they came back with WWII trains.

Our BRT is a long project, it comprise of six phases, at the moment we're building phase number two, and you've already jump to conclusion that the whole thing is a fail. While we experience some challenges, new tender for extra buses have been floated. How come i see your thread here jumping up and down that the demand of Madaraka Express is so high peoples have to book two days in advance, but the same thing when happen to our BRT your quick to point a finger that this is a fail project. The truth is, residents who uses public transport in Dar are far better off than their counterpart in Nairobi in terms of time spent traveling from point A to point B.

My original argument was Kenya has no technical capability to teach Uganda anything about construction of SGR, while Uganda is preferring to jump straight into electric SGR, Kenya you don't even have continuous welded railroad.

N'yadikwa · Jun 28, 2017

kwenye hili tusijisifu sana hiyo hoja hapo juu ya tusubiri maamuzi ya wafanyabiashara ina mantiki mnaweza sema agreement imekuwa striken lakini mfanyabiashara mara zote anaangalia wapi ipo nafuu je ni tanzania! ?au kenya!

Ian Cruz · Jun 28, 2017

Mwanzi1 said:
Haha, the kick of dying horse, if what you're saying is true about kenya experts only visited operators and government officials (which I know for the fact is not true). Then that will be the silliness of your own people, maybe your experts did exactly the same thing we they went to China and they came back with WWII trains.

Our BRT is a long project, it comprise of six phases, at the moment we're building phase number two, and you've already jump to conclusion that the whole thing is a fail. While we experience some challenges, new tender for extra buses have been floated. How come i see your thread here jumping up and down that the demand of Madaraka Express is so high peoples have to book two days in advance, but the same thing when happen to our BRT your quick to point a finger that this is a fail project. The truth is, residents who uses public transport in Dar are far better off than their counterpart in Nairobi in terms of time spent traveling from point A to point B.

My original argument was Kenya has no technical capability to teach Uganda anything about construction of SGR, while Uganda is preferring to jump straight into electric SGR, Kenya you don't even have continuous welded railroad.

i can now see your pathetic assumptions which do not hold water.....teach yourself first

Mwanzi1 · Jun 28, 2017

Ian Cruz said:
i can now see your pathetic assumptions which do not hold water.....teach yourself first

I urge you to read the link below word by word, and imagine exporting all those problem to Uganda. Let Uganda's make there own mistakes.

Are Chinese investors in SGR project neo-colonial predators?

Ian Cruz · Jun 28, 2017

Mwanzi1 said:
I urge you to read the link below word by word, and imagine exporting all those problem to Uganda. Let Uganda's make there own mistakes.

Are Chinese investors in SGR project neo-colonial predators?

Whatever you call it,nonsense!

Asilimia 80% ya mizigo ya Uganda kutumia SGR

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