Battle: Dar es Salaam vs Nairobi

ichoboy01 said:

tanzania hawa jamaa hawaijui wao ndoto zao zinaota tz ile ya 90s, sasa ikiwa binaadamu mweneye akili anaadika eti will smith yupo serengeti kenya wakat dunia inafahamu serengeti iko tanzania hata mugabe alishasema hwa wakenya ni watu wakuhamisha

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ichoboy01 said:

aliekua anakataa kibera sio 2.5million people namuhitaji hapa, biggest slum in africa and biggest slum in the world hahahahahaha bado matopeni na mathare slum

Kibera Facts & Information
There are approximatly 2.5 million slum dwellers in about 200 settlements in Nairobi representing 60% of the Nairobi population and occupying just 6% of the land. Kibera houses about 250,000 of these people. Kibera is the biggest slum in Africa and one of the biggest in the world.

Land Ownership
The Government owns all the land. 10% of people are shack owners and many of these people own many other shacks and let them out to tenants. The remaining 90% of residents are tenants with no rights.

Housing
The average size of shack in this area is 12ft x 12ft built with mud walls, a corrugated tin roof with a dirt or concrete floor. The cost is about KES 700 per Month (£6). These shacks often house up to 8 or more with many sleeping on the floor.

The population
The original settlers were the Nubian people from the Kenyan/Sudanese border – they now occupy about 15% of Kibera, are mostly Muslim and are also mostly shack owners. The other shack owners are mostly Kikuyu (the majority tribe in Nairobi) – although in most cases they do not live there but are absentee landlords. The majority of the tenants are Luo, Luhya and some Kamba – these people are from the west of Kenya. There are many tensions in Kibera, particularly tribal tensions between the Luo & Kikuyu, but also between landlord and tenant and those with and without jobs.

Electricity
Only about 20% of Kibera has electricity. UN-Habitat is in the process of providing it to some parts of Kibera – this will include street lighting, security lighting and connection to shacks (this costs KES 900 per shack, which in most cases is not affordable).

Water
Until recently Kibera had no water and it had to be collected from the Nairobi dam. The dam water is not clean and causes typhoid and cholera. Now there are two mains water pipes into Kibera, one from the municipal council and one from the World Bank. Residents collect water at KES 3 per 20 litres.

Sewage
In most of Kibera there are no toilet facilities. One latrine (hole in the ground) is shared by up to 50 shacks. Once full, young boys are employed to empty the latrine and they take the contents to the river. UN-Habitat and a few other agencies are trying to help and improve this situation but it is painfully slow.

Medical facilities and HIV/AIDS Clinics
In Kibera there are no government clinics or hospitals. The providers are the charitable organisations: AMREF, MSF, churches plus some others. They do a great job. All people are encouraged to have a free HIV test and if positive to take free generic ARV medicine.

Changaa
This is cheap alcoholic brew. It is widely available, very strong (over 50% alcohol) and made incorrectly, so is usually very high in Methanol. The cost is only KES 10 per glass and after a couple of glasses people become very drunk. With over 50% unemployment in Kibera many start drinking early in the morning leading to problems of violence, crime, rapes etc. Several charities are trying to help by showing the Changaa makers how to make the drink less dangerous.

Drugs
Cheap drugs and glue sniffing are an increasing problem. Initially taken to alleviate boredom but then people find themselves hooked. A big challenge to the charities!

Abortion
Due to many men still not using condoms and the availability of Changaa, many girls become pregnant, at any one time about 50% of 16 to 25 yr old girls are pregnant. Most of these pregnancies are unwanted, resulting in many cases of abortion. This can be very dangerous, particularly in such a poor area as Kibera. Many charities are working on this problem.

Unemployment
Kibera is near the industrial area of Nairobi where up to 50% of the available workforce are employed (usually in fairly unskilled jobs). However, there is still an unemployment rate of 50%. This is why the training and teaching of skills is very important.

Sport
Most young people in Kibera have nothing to do, obviously it is better for them to have the opportunity to take part in sport and several organisations are working on this.

Nairobi Slum Survey
The African Population and Health Research Center (APHRC) produced a report which provides many different statistics relating to the slums of Nairobi, including facts about Kibera. You can download the 212 page here:
* ‘Report of the Nairobi Cross-sectional Slums Survey‘

SUMMARY FINDINGS
Kibera needs land/tenancy rights, housing, water, electricity, health clinics, education, employment, security plus much more. All these issues are being addressed to a lesser or greater extent by many organizations including the Churches, UN-Habitat, MSF and AMREF etc. Money is finding its way through from many international organizations including Gates Foundation, Bill Clinton Foundation, all the well known charities and of course the churches both in Africa and internationally. However, money cannot help without people to direct it – all the organizations require assistance. They all need intelligent, keen, willing, and compassionate people to help.

In the western world it has become common for many students to take a Gap Year out before or after university. More mature people are also now taking a year out, away from their everyday life. Many could work in Kibera where they would achieve a real sense of doing some good. Kibera is crying out for people to help.

Citation
* African Population and Health Research Center (APHRC). 2014. Population and Health Dynamics in Nairobi’s Informal Settlements: Report of the Nairobi Cross-sectional Slums Survey. (NCSS) 2012. Nairobi: APHRC.

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MOTOCHINI said:

Dar inakuja Kimya kimya!!


A. Zaidi ya 25F

1.TPA |40F
2.*Claudine Tower |40F
3.Kakakuona Tower|36F |
4.PSPF Tower A|35F |153m
5.PSPF Tower B|35F |153m
6.Mzizima Tower Office |35F
7.Mzizima Tower Residential|33F
8.Dar es Salaam City Center Promise Tower |35F|
9.PPF HQ |35F
10. MNF Tower 1 |32F
11.MNF Tower 2 |32F
12.Uhuru Media Tower |32F
13.Rita Tower |30F
14.Millenium Tower II|30F
15.Dar es salaam Stock Exchange |30F
16.NHC Independence plaza |30F
17.NHC Giraffe Tower |30F+
18.NHC 50th Avenue Tower 1| 30F+
19.NHC 50th Avenue Tower 2| 30F+
20.NHC Morocco Square Tower 1|30F
21.NHC Morocco Square Tower 2|30F
23.Dar es Salaam| BRT HQ |15F
23.NHC-Mixed Used Blocks on Plot No. 300 Tower 1|27F
24.NHC-Mixed Used Blocks on Plot No. 300 Tower 2|27F
25.NHC Golden Anniversary Building |26F
26.Umoja wa Vijana Complex Tower 1| 25F
27.Umoja wa Vijana Complex Tower 2| 25F
28.Uhuru Heights | 25F | COMPLETE
29.TPA INVESTMENT PROJECT|25F
30.Dar es Salaam|TPHA Tower|25
31.NHC Bank Ico tower|25F+
32.NHC Morocco Square Tower 3|25F

B. Kati 10F na 25F


1.PSPF Tower |24F
2.NHC Tower |23F|
3.Quality Boulevard|22F
4.Benjamini Mkapa Towers Tower |22F
5.City Plaza | 22F
6.KHAKI PLAZA|22F
7.Viva Tower Tower 1| 21F
8.Viva Tower Tower 2| 21F
9.BOT tower North|20F|100m
10. BOT Tower South|20F|100m
11.NHC Victoria palace |20F
12.Dar es Salaam|Sanaa Tower|20
13.Al Karimo Plaza|20F
14.NSSF Ilala Mafao House|20F
15.Ushirika towers | 20F
16.KKOO Mall |20F
17.Kilimanjaro Towers|20F
18.Samora Tower | 19F
19.Bakhressa Tower |18F
20.PPF Tower |18F
21.Mixed used tower block|18F
22. Storey Tower|18F
23. Mindu apartments |18F
24.NHC Seven Eleven @Kawecity tower 1|18F
25.NHC Seven Eleven @Kawecity tower 2|18F
26.NHC Seven Eleven @Kawecity tower 3|18F
27.NHC Seven Eleven @Kawecity tower 4|18F
28.NHC Seven Eleven @Kawecity tower 5|18F
29.NHC Seven Eleven @Kawecity tower 6|18F
30.NHC Seven Eleven @Kawecity tower 7|18F
31.NHC Seven Eleven @Kawecity tower 8|18F
32.NHC Seven Eleven @Kawecity tower 9|18F
33.NHC Mindu Residential Apts | 18F
34.Dar es Salaam Ministry of Foreign Affairs |17F
35.Batenga's |17 F
36.Kitonga Street Project, Upanga 17F
37.Saudi Arabia Inv Tower | 16 F
38.Ushindi Residential Apartments Block 1 | 16F
39.Ushindi Residential Apartments Block 2 | 16F
40.Ushindi Residential Apartments Block 3 | 16F
41.KALENGA, UPANGA, APARTMENTS 16F |
42.Tanga Bohra Project | 16F
43.Nyongoro Tower 1 Project, Upanga |16F
44.Nyongoro Tower 2 Project, Upanga |16F
45.Exim Tower |16F
46.Kitega Uchumi Buidling |16F
47.GEPF Tower | 15F
48.Victoria Plaza |15F
49.Zanaki Street Project | 15F
50.NHC-Ngano Housing Estate |15F
51.Wakulima Eco-Residence Tower 1|16F
52.Wakulima Eco-Residence Tower 2|16F
53.Zahra Arcade Mixed-use Tower 1 | 15F
54.Zahra Arcade Mixed-use Tower 2 | 15F
55.Canal Residency | 15F | COMPLETED
56.TAN-RE Square|15F
57.Upanga Apartment block | 15F
58.Crystal Tower | 15F
59.Extelecoms House |15F
60.Sea View Tower | 15F
61.NHC House along Samora Avenue |15F
62.Mawasiliano Towers |15F
63.KARMALI TOWER
64.Dar es salaam|PALOMA PARK|14 F
65.Tan House | 14F
66. Fakyat Tower |14
67.Posta House |14
68.Sabodo Parking Tower|14F
69.Ushirika Tower 2 | 14F
70.CCM Building, Mvumi Street, Upang

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LightYagami said:

Urefu wa gorofa hupimwa na metre ama feet, si floor my friend. Thats why there are Highrise, Skyscrapers, Super tall skyscrapers na megatall skyscrappers

Here you can count the Kenyan ones na Tanzanian ones List of tallest buildings in Africa - Wikipedia

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Annael said:

Sasa hiyo Taarifa yako isiyokuwa na TPA inasikitisha sana.

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LightYagami said:

Urefu wa TPA??

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LightYagami said:

Urefu wa TPA??

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Annael said:

TPA hii hapa
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Annael said:

Kwenye list yako ya Wikipedia haina hiyo Tower. Kwahiyo taarifa yako hiyo ni ya uongo ni ya kupika.

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LightYagami said:

Tanzania Ports Authority. Jengo liko kwa hio list kaka. Angalia tena.

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LightYagami said:

Si taarifa ya uongo, chunguza wewe mwenyewe.

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Annael said:

Nimekueleza TPA ni refu kuliko majengo ya PSPF sasa unapokataa nakuona hujui chochote kuhusu Dar es salaam unasikia tu. Na inaonesha mnapenda sana kupika taarifa za uongo.

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LightYagami said:

u

urefu wake ni mita ngapi??

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LightYagami said:

157metres tall,

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Annael said:

Itabidi utafute wewe mwenyewe. Mimi nilikuwa nakuambia tu kwamba usipende kuleta taarifa za kupika hapa. Wewe huoni hapo wameweka floor 35 wakati TPA ipo na floor 40. Halafu Jengo lenu hilo mnapima mpka mnara. Ni aibu sana.
Acha kutoa taarifa za kutengeneza. Nimwekuwekea picha hapo uone mwenyewe. Maana PSPF na TPA yapo sehemu moja.
Tafuta taaarifa sahihi.

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LightYagami said:

Lakini TPA ni 157m. Maagorofa yenu yana floors nyingi sababu si spacious kaka. Na minara ni part of the building my friend. Na hio source si sahihi kweli. AVIC ni 183.5 m so 176 na Hass ni 330m si 300m.
Ona the tallest towers in the world zina minara. So usiblame minara and deal with it, Britam ni 200m tall. Hata Burj Khalifa highest floor iko around 600m mark. so wacha porojo and get better architects. Hata the famous Empire state building has a very long mast View attachment 480536
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Annael said:

Naona unahangaika sana. Tower yenu ipo na floor 31. TPA ipo na floor 40. Maana yake kwamba ule mnara wenu upo na mita zaidi ya 50. Huwezi ukajivunia jengo la namna hiyo.

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