komora096
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Sasa hivi ndio viwanda,
Watanzania bana, basi ukileta hyo tafsiri yenu kuhusu viwanda hku upande wetu..itakua balaa
Sasa hivi ndio viwanda,viwanda vidogo vidogo kama hivi ambavyo vinachipukia kwa wingi Tanzania ndio vitakuja kuwa viwanda vikubwa huko mbele.
Ukwel ni kwamba!!tuna export vitu kuwaliko eac..hyo lazima umeze, hta uruke ruke vipi
Here is the data explained further categorized interms of Imports/Exports
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So, like MK254 put it, in2018, Kenya EAC Inter-Trade is $1.95 billion While Tz is $811.3 million and Uganda at $2.05 Billion
And from the Screenshot I have just provided, you can see the breakdown:
For the year 2018:
IMPORTS from other EAC members
1.Uganda is the biggest Importer of goods withing EAC at $796 Million
2. Followed by Kenya at $ 676 Million
3. Tanzania at number five importing goods worth $302 Million
EXPORTS to Other EAC Members
1. Kenya leads in exports $1.273 Billion
2.Uganda comes in a close second at $1.254 Billion
3. While Tanzania is third with $509 Million
So contrary to what you were trying to insinuate, Kenya is actually the biggest exporter of goods to the EAC region and we are the 2nd biggest importer of Goods in the region after Uganda...
In-terms of TRADE SURPLUS, Kenya has the largest trade surplus within EAC
Kenya Trade surplus 1273 - 677 = $596 Million
Uganda comes in Second with 1255 - 796 = $459 Million
While Tanzania has a trade surplus of 508 - 303 = $205 Million.
Therefore Tanzania is clearly NOT a net exporter of anything in EAC, the maize that you sell us is hardly worth more than $50 million...... Among the big (geographically and demographically and politically speaking) countries within EAC, you actually have the least amount of exports.. infact, Both Uganda and Kenya each double your exports ...... Also Both Kenya and Uganda double your trade-surplus (Profits)...
Kwa kifupi, ndani ya hii game ya bishara baina ya wana EAC, mashindano ni kati ya Kenya na Uganda.... Tanzania labda mkabahatishe kule SADC.....
Alafu kama bado unabisha eti Kenya ni dumping ground , wacha nikuwekee hii ya COMESA Trade ndani ya mwaka huo huo 2018........
Biashara kati ya nchi 21 za COMESA(Africa's biggest trading bock), Kenya ya pili baada ya Egypt kwa Exports.... You can expect a similar thing ndani ya ile Continental Free Trade Area manake kama kawa hatutalegeza kamba!!!
View attachment 1266005
Waàaaah 2014 Tanzania walikuwa sawa aje aiiii,,,what happened hadi wakashuka ivo?Here is the data explained further categorized interms of Imports/Exports
View attachment 1265943
So, like MK254 put it, in2018, Kenya EAC Inter-Trade is $1.95 billion While Tz is $811.3 million and Uganda at $2.05 Billion
And from the Screenshot I have just provided, you can see the breakdown:
For the year 2018:
IMPORTS from other EAC members
1.Uganda is the biggest Importer of goods withing EAC at $796 Million
2. Followed by Kenya at $ 676 Million
3. Tanzania at number five importing goods worth $302 Million
EXPORTS to Other EAC Members
1. Kenya leads in exports $1.273 Billion
2.Uganda comes in a close second at $1.254 Billion
3. While Tanzania is third with $509 Million
So contrary to what you were trying to insinuate, Kenya is actually the biggest exporter of goods to the EAC region and we are the 2nd biggest importer of Goods in the region after Uganda...
In-terms of TRADE SURPLUS, Kenya has the largest trade surplus within EAC
Kenya Trade surplus 1273 - 677 = $596 Million
Uganda comes in Second with 1255 - 796 = $459 Million
While Tanzania has a trade surplus of 508 - 303 = $205 Million.
Therefore Tanzania is clearly NOT a net exporter of anything in EAC, the maize that you sell us is hardly worth more than $50 million...... Among the big (geographically and demographically and politically speaking) countries within EAC, you actually have the least amount of exports.. infact, Both Uganda and Kenya each double your exports ...... Also Both Kenya and Uganda double your trade-surplus (Profits)...
Kwa kifupi, ndani ya hii game ya bishara baina ya wana EAC, mashindano ni kati ya Kenya na Uganda.... Tanzania labda mkabahatishe kule SADC.....
Alafu kama bado unabisha eti Kenya ni dumping ground , wacha nikuwekee hii ya COMESA Trade ndani ya mwaka huo huo 2018........
Biashara kati ya nchi 21 za COMESA(Africa's biggest trading bock), Kenya ya pili baada ya Egypt kwa Exports.... You can expect a similar thing ndani ya ile Continental Free Trade Area manake kama kawa hatutalegeza kamba!!!
View attachment 1266005
Ni kiwanda ndio, wewe unafikiri kiwanda lazima kitumie megawatts 90000 kwa siku?Sasa hivi ndio viwanda,
Watanzania bana, basi ukileta hyo tafsiri yenu kuhusu viwanda hku upande wetu..itakua balaa
Data ndio huongea brother sio maneno matupuUkwel ni kwamba!!tuna export vitu kuwaliko eac..hyo lazima umeze, hta uruke ruke vipi
Using too many words to say Zero.Tz has a trade surplus with EAC where it exports its low quality low value goods like grade 3 maize. No one in EAC can buy Tz Gold & other high value products not to mention EAC trade is less than 5% of the total TradeHere is the data explained further categorized interms of Imports/Exports
View attachment 1265943
So, like MK254 put it, in2018, Kenya EAC Inter-Trade is $1.95 billion While Tz is $811.3 million and Uganda at $2.05 Billion
And from the Screenshot I have just provided, you can see the breakdown:
For the year 2018:
IMPORTS from other EAC members
1.Uganda is the biggest Importer of goods withing EAC at $796 Million
2. Followed by Kenya at $ 676 Million
3. Tanzania at number five importing goods worth $302 Million
EXPORTS to Other EAC Members
1. Kenya leads in exports $1.273 Billion
2.Uganda comes in a close second at $1.254 Billion
3. While Tanzania is third with $509 Million
So contrary to what you were trying to insinuate, Kenya is actually the biggest exporter of goods to the EAC region and we are the 2nd biggest importer of Goods in the region after Uganda...
In-terms of TRADE SURPLUS, Kenya has the largest trade surplus within EAC
Kenya Trade surplus 1273 - 677 = $596 Million
Uganda comes in Second with 1255 - 796 = $459 Million
While Tanzania has a trade surplus of 508 - 303 = $205 Million.
Therefore Tanzania is clearly NOT a net exporter of anything in EAC, the maize that you sell us is hardly worth more than $50 million...... Among the big (geographically and demographically and politically speaking) countries within EAC, you actually have the least amount of exports.. infact, Both Uganda and Kenya each double your exports ...... Also Both Kenya and Uganda double your trade-surplus (Profits)...
Kwa kifupi, ndani ya hii game ya bishara baina ya wana EAC, mashindano ni kati ya Kenya na Uganda.... Tanzania labda mkabahatishe kule SADC.....
Alafu kama bado unabisha eti Kenya ni dumping ground , wacha nikuwekee hii ya COMESA Trade ndani ya mwaka huo huo 2018........
Biashara kati ya nchi 21 za COMESA(Africa's biggest trading bock), Kenya ya pili baada ya Egypt kwa Exports.... You can expect a similar thing ndani ya ile Continental Free Trade Area manake kama kawa hatutalegeza kamba!!!
View attachment 1266005
[emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]mambo hubadilika jomba, ripoti ya sai inasema tofauti...hyo ipeleke uliko itoaData ndio huongea brother sio maneno matupuView attachment 1266045
Hii thread mbona imekua tamu hv...yani geza mpka unajaribu mbinu zote lkn wapi, ripoti inabaki kuwa vile vile kamwe haibadiliki[emoji122][emoji122]Using too many words to say Zero.Tz has a trade surplus with EAC where it exports its low quality low value goods like grade 3 maize. No one in EAC can buy Tz Gold & other high value products not to mention EAC trade is less than 5% of the total Trade
THIS IS THE Correct Apples to apples DATA Comparison:
Exports to GDP Ratio:
Tz- 19%
Ug- 18.5%
Ke- 13% ( Pathetic)
Imports to GDP Ratio:
Ug- 25.9%(Kwaida ya LDC ambayo haina factories)
Ke- 25% (Kuchezea ligi za ki-LDC)
Tz- 22.5% (Self sustaining developing economy)
Huu ndio ukweli japo wanajaribu kuandikia andikia makala ndefu ndefu ili waonekane wapo right kumbe ni pumba tupu 😂😂😂Using too many words to say Zero.Tz has a trade surplus with EAC where it exports its low quality low value goods like grade 3 maize. No one in EAC can buy Tz Gold & other high value products not to mention EAC trade is less than 5% of the total Trade
THIS IS THE Correct Apples to apples DATA Comparison:
Exports to GDP Ratio:
Tz- 19%
Ug- 18.5%
Ke- 13% ( Pathetic)
Imports to GDP Ratio:
Ug- 25.9%(Kwaida ya LDC ambayo haina factories)
Ke- 25% (Kuchezea ligi za ki-LDC)
Tz- 22.5% (Self sustaining developing economy)
Kipi kimepungua kwenye hivi mnavyoagiza kwa wingi? Halafu mimi siamini sana hizi takwimu za kwenye keyboard[emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]mambo hubadilika jomba, ripoti ya sai inasema tofauti...hyo ipeleke uliko itoa
Cheki ripoti ya import kenya, tena kutoka eac wala sio tanzania tuView attachment 1266051
Using too many words to say Zero.Tz has a trade surplus with EAC where it exports its low quality low value goods like grade 3 maize. No one in EAC can buy Tz Gold & other high value products not to mention EAC trade is less than 5% of the total Trade
THIS IS THE Correct Apples to apples DATA Comparison:
Exports to GDP Ratio:
Tz- 19%
Ug- 18.5%
Ke- 13% ( Pathetic)
Imports to GDP Ratio:
Ug- 25.9%(Kwaida ya LDC ambayo haina factories)
Ke- 25% (Kuchezea ligi za ki-LDC)
Tz- 22.5% (Self sustaining developing economy)
Kiburi na kujidanyanya eti tunawahitaji kuliko vile wanatuhitaji.... nakumbuka walikua wanapenda kuimba huu wimbo wakati walipoanza kutubania na kuharibu biashara EAC, sasa hao ndo wamepoteza zaidi, si wengine biashara zetu zimezidi kunogaWaàaaah 2014 Tanzania walikuwa sawa aje aiiii,,,what happened hadi wakashuka ivo?
Exactly. We will continue to lap those who stand in the way of the market!Kiburi na kujidanyanya eti tunawahitaji kuliko vile wanatuhitaji.... nakumbuka walikua wanapenda kuimba huu wimbo wakati walipoanza kutubania na kuharibu biashara EAC, sasa hao ndo wamepoteza zaidi, si wengine biashara zetu zimezidi kunoga
That Big GDP does not help kenya export more goods neither does it help kenya import less.Dude! Our GDP was $88 Billion last year while your GDP was $57 Billion.... That means our GDP is 54% more than yours!!!! Comparing with % doesn't mean sh!t as we are not comparable, Our 10% might as well be your 20 percent in terms of real money... Its like if you say Tz has a higher economic growth or exports/imports to GDP ratio than SA or Egypt when interms of absolute numbers, they export 10 times worth of goods than you do!
2017[emoji15][emoji15][emoji15]Kipi kimepungua kwenye hivi mnavyoagiza kwa wingi? Halafu mimi siamini sana hizi takwimu za kwenye keyboard View attachment 1266063
So why did you say what matters the most the Export/Import to GDP ratio??? Didn't you say "This THIS IS THE Correct Apples to apples DATA Comparison: "That Big GDP does not help kenya export more goods neither does it help kenya import less.
The only thing it fueling the GDP is $60B loans( 4 times more than Tz).
That is why kenya GDP is HotAir, useless statistic. Mambo kwa ground ni different
Kitu kinachoongoza kuuzwa nje chenye percentage kubwa kwa umoja wake ni gold ndioSo why did you say what matters the most the Export/Import to GDP ratio??? Didn't you say "This THIS IS THE Correct Apples to apples DATA Comparison: "
Don't you see the Export to GDP ratio is dependent on that GDP figure that you have said is 'hot air'????? So does it mean the comparison you posted is also hot air???
BTW you didn't show where you got those percentages from and from which year, but anyway
that low Export to GDP % for Kenya amounts to $6.2B in 2017
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While that high % for Tanzania amounts to $5.3Billion (which is $1B less than Kenya's exports, So yes, Indeed kwa ground vitu ni different!)
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Mind you, a big chunk of Tanzania's exports is gold (i.e a commodity that would still be exported even if the whole of Tanzania was 99% populated by monkeys 😂 😂 😂 because the gold would still be lying underneath the ground) While in Kenya the biggest Forex earners are sectors that depend on the people (i.e without the people no one will plant of harvest anything)
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Alafu hapo uliposema our GDP is fueled by the $60B debt, I'm not an economist but I hope you do know that taking a loan does not directly add value to the productivity of the country.... It is the profits that are made from the investments of that loan that will be counted as part of the GDP or that year.
So why did you say what matters the most the Export/Import to GDP ratio??? Didn't you say "This THIS IS THE Correct Apples to apples DATA Comparison: "
Don't you see the Export to GDP ratio is dependent on that GDP figure that you have said is 'hot air'????? So does it mean the comparison you posted is also hot air???
BTW you didn't show where you got those percentages from and from which year, but anyway
that low Export to GDP % for Kenya amounts to $6.2B in 2017
View attachment 1266126
While that high % for Tanzania amounts to $5.3Billion (which is $1B less than Kenya's exports, So yes, Indeed kwa ground vitu ni different!)
View attachment 1266129
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Mind you, a big chunk of Tanzania's exports is gold (i.e a commodity that would still be exported even if the whole of Tanzania was 99% populated by monkeys 😂 😂 😂 because the gold would still be lying underneath the ground) While in Kenya the biggest Forex earners are sectors that depend on the people (i.e without the people no one will plant of harvest anything)
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Alafu hapo uliposema our GDP is fueled by the $60B debt, I'm not an economist but I hope you do know that taking a loan does not directly add value to the productivity of the country.... It is the profits that are made from the investments of that loan that will be counted as part of the GDP or that year.