NairobiWalker
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- Oct 31, 2012
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Your examples don't make sense. You said Tz is better than Kenya because the BoT towers are better than the Central Bank of Kenya building and I told you that's so hilarious. I likened your example to someone using the quality of a doormat to judge his wealth which won't make sense at all because a ghetto dweller can still buy a more expensive doormat than a billionaire. The building that houses your central bank has nothing to do with the wealth of the said country. A poor country can still decide to build a more marvelous building to house their central bank than richer countries.improve your [ki]Swahili please! i was giving you an example..'je, inafaa mtu tajiri aishi kwenye nyumba ya nyasi'? If you don't understand this let me ask you? je, waweza kujiita tajiri na huwezi kulipa wafanyakazi? Unawaacha watembee mtaani for 24days?..tell me.
i thought one of u mentioned of Merkel and Hu Jintao! Kenyan Hypocricy as usual...
I recently heard your brothers (so called Kenyan tycoons) crying for not seeing Obama in their soil since elected president of America,,, is that the way of showing us your tears!. Mind you, Chinese and American presidents went to South Africa as well, the economy of which you dare not compare with Kenyan,,,, did SA also need support your talking about?! In Tanzania we have what it takes for any good visitor to come, no wonder your fellow Kenyan are struggling to change their citizenship. Though we have been slow in adopting western styled economy, you have never been anywhere when it comes to social development and improvement of individual life standards. You have never been successful in ridding off your poverty that seem the most endemic among East Africans. We will in the next few years show you who is the giant economically in the region.
Wewe kweli bado uko usingizini!...P.S Top Kenyan business entrepreneurs were invited to TZ when Obama was in TZ and they 'declined' because they had other 'commitments'.
Obama alikuja Tanzania na wafanyabiashara mashuhuri toka marekani,sio wanasiasa tu kama unavyodai,amesaini mkataba wa kuzalisha umeme ambao tutauza mpaka nje ya nchi,ikiwemo Kenya kama mkitakaTanzanians are talking about this issue more than Kenyans. The thing is, Tanzanians want to force things n make it look like we(Kenyans) are mad........lol. You've had past visits by American presidents but what did it change? We receive more visits by CEOs of of big companies while you've always received more visits by politicians and you can see the results by yourselves - our economy is still bigger than yours despite the fact that you have more resources.
Anyway, good for you. Continue rejoicing visits by politicians, after all Tanzanians have always loved being lied to. No wonder you worship your politicians.
Mwanasiasa ni mwanasiasa.......kazi yake ni kujenga image na kujifanya aonekane kama kipenzi cha watu na sisi wakenya tulishajua hayo kitambo ndio maana hamtuoni tukijishughulisha kuwapendeza wanasiasa. Tulishavuka hayo kitambo saa hii sisi kazi yetu ni kuunda miundo mbinu ili tuweze kufanya biashara na wanabiashara mashuhuri katika platform moja.
Kenyan individuals wana maisha magumu sana,wanafunga mikanda kwa sababu ya nja,ndio maana wamejaa hapa Dar Es Salaam,bila vibali vya kufanya kazi,wapo tayari kufungwa!!Your examples don't make sense. You said Tz is better than Kenya because the BoT towers are better than the Central Bank of Kenya building and I told you that's so hilarious. I likened your example to someone using the quality of a doormat to judge his wealth which won't make sense at all because a ghetto dweller can still buy a more expensive doormat than a billionaire. The building that houses your central bank has nothing to do with the wealth of the said country. A poor country can still decide to build a more marvelous building to house their central bank than richer countries.
PS.....FYI Kenya's central bank built the current tallest building in East and Central Africa, the 38 floor 140m Times Tower which was original known as The New Central Bank Towers before the Central Bank of Kenya Transferred it to the Kenya Revenue Authority. They later transferred it since they didn't see the need of having such a large building when the available space was just enough.
Kenyan individuals wana maisha magumu sana,wanafunga mikanda kwa sababu ya nja,ndio maana wamejaa hapa Dar Es Salaam,bila vibali vya kufanya kazi,wapo tayari kufungwa!!
Wewe kweli bado uko usingizini!
Why shouldn't people decide what to call their own roads? How come Luggy never protested Mwai Kibaki road? Aren't there roads in Nairobi named for famous ppl from other lands?ujinga wetu nini?,si heri sisi kuiita barabra kwa jinalake kuliko ninyi kufanya siki kuku ati kwa kuwa Mjaluo kawa rais wa USA....tumieni akili sio mavi,-------
Why shouldn't people decide what to call their own roads? How come Luggy never protested Mwai Kibaki road? Aren't there roads in Nairobi named for famous ppl from other lands?
Why shouldn't people decide what to call their own roads? How come Luggy never protested Mwai Kibaki road? Aren't there roads in Nairobi named for famous ppl from other lands?
Usijidanganye hapa toa tongotongo hujabadilisha chama bali ni KANU kwenye maumbo ya NARC, PNU na sasa Jubilee aka TNA! Jiulize kwa nini vyama vyoote hivi ni Mkikuyu tu anahaki ya kuwa Rais? Kifupi huna afadhali ukilinganisha na Tanzania maana anayechagua kabila na kujidanganya ni demokrasia ni mpumbafu wa mwisho! BTW mnaomba kimoyomoyo mpate kufikiriwa na Obama na mataifa mengine makubwa kama China ila ndo hivyo tena mmeonekana irrelevant so kiunafki mnajifanya ati Tanzania inanyakuliwa! Mmesahau mlikuwa mnalamba matapishi ya west leo hii mnaililia China kisa mmeona imeibuka na kuwa Economical powerhouse na West wamewataliki! Unaonyesha rangi zako kama Mkenya aliye mnafki asilia hapa!
Apo patamu. Hebu kwanza anza kwa kuachana na lugha ya hao "magharibi". Yaani unawakandia hao "magharibi" na wakati huo huo unajitutumua kuongea lugha yao? Inakuweje?Do not cheat yourself,,,,that Africa shall be developed by outsiders,,,akina Obama.
Africa will have to wake up and stop relying on western hand out.
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which step ahead? keep dreaming devolution is making that country of urs stagnant with total chaosDo not cheat yourself,,,,that Africa shall be developed by outsiders,,,akina Obama.
Africa will have to wake up and stop relying on western hand out.
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You just do not break from the past,,but rather move away,,in small
steps.
Jubilee is not run the way Kanu was or the way ODM and PNU
used to behave.
We are in new times.
That is why i say,,that Tanzania has a lot to work out,,before
even,,saying,,anything.
The biggest hurdle ,,, to over come,,,is the constitution,,,will
it be made after wide consultation,,or some 'wise' wazee in CCM
will work out behind the scene and present it to wanainchi,
for ratification?
We are watching you.
Tanzania,,is yet,,for a big test,,,just like Uganda, Rwanda
and almost everyone in East Africa even not talking about
the rest of Africa.
After dealing with matters,,politics,,,,then from there,,,
you will be able to see what direction,,you are taking,,
as Tanzanians,,but not,,now,,as is the case of Egypt,
and Libya,,which used to be far ahead but went
down wards in few months because the country
was run by a few,,,as in TZ,,when up to today,,
since independence,,1963,,CCM is still chama cha
baba na mama.🙂
Hiyo,,si maendeleo,,,,,,changamkeni ndugu
zetu wa TZ.
Mabadiliko ni nyinyi lakini si,,,,Obama.
When will you grow intellectually!? who told you devolution is bringing chaos in Kenya!? what we are having n Kenya are meaningful discussions on how to implement devolution!..In Kenya we think hard coz its our hobby unlike you who simply believe and follow everything you hear!..Before you engage those things you call fingers in typing anything about this great and lovely country of ours please get your facts right,we don't need to know the depth of your ignorance always..We have our challenges but we are over comers!which step ahead? keep dreaming devolution is making that country of urs stagnant with total chaos
WITH AN EAGLE'S EYE : Calm down, Kenyans; Tanzania is flying!
IN SUMMARY
- Thus, in serving his country, Obama found himself readying for a trip to Senegal, South Africa and Tanzania bypassing Kenya, the country of his father.
While the United Republic of Tanzania and the United States of America are busy preparing for President Barack Obamas tour, Kenyans are busy whining why Obama is scorning their country.
Kenyans are so angry because from the moment Obama took the oath of office as the President of the United States on January 20, 2009, they have been considering their country so special to the American president because of his Kenyan roots.
Definitely, based on African traditions Obama, being male, ought to recognise his fathers country and ethnicity as his, and to Africans that does not change simply because one is the president of a foreign country. In other words, despite being an American citizen by birth and an elected president, at the minimum Obama was expected to identify himself as a Luo and a Kenyan at heart.
Coincidentally, Luos are among conservative African ethnic groupings, adhering to their traditions even when everyone thinks otherwise. For instance, in Tanzania and Kenya where they are found, courts of law know them very well as people who disregard everyones traditional customs, and if possible even laws, to give room to theirs.
But leave the conservativeness of the Luos aside; Kenyans, perhaps due to historical trends and an attitude to embrace everything western, find it impossible to believe that Obama as a personality was created by Americans to serve Americans. Making Obamas two elections a big deal in Kenya and marketing his roots globally has not changed this fact.
Obama considers himself an African American by ethnicity, an American citizen, and a politician. He warned Kenyans in 2006 while visiting there as a senator telling them: I am not a Kenyan politician; I am an American politician. But Kenyans didnt get it.
Obama doesnt hate his roots, but as an American president he has an obligation to serve American interests first and foremost. He was not elected to serve Kenya; he was elected to serve the United States of America.
Thus, in serving his country, Obama found himself readying for a trip to Senegal, South Africa and Tanzania bypassing Kenya, the country of his father. Why? Speculations can tell a lot, but here is a bitter fact: Obama is the third US president to bypass Kenya while visiting Tanzania.
Some Kenyan analysts put blame on President Uhuru Kenyatta and Vice President William Ruto because they are suspects. Too bad for them; was President Daniel arap Moi a suspect when President Bill Clinton visited Tanzania in 2000 leaving Kenya out of schedule? How about Mwai Kibaki in 2008 when President George W. Bush came to Tanzania?
Notably, Kenya despite being a staunch US puppet during the Cold War, has not managed to attract the attention of Washington in the post-Cold War era, even after going to war with hungry mobs in Somalia to defend American security interests.
Tanzania may have embraced the African brand of socialism called Ujamaa during the Cold War, totally different from communism, but both considered by the West as repugnant, but its foreign policy carried humanistic values and placed Tanzania on the world map in a very unique way.
Furthermore, Tanzania was the beacon of freedom-fighting in Africa, even leading and headquartering Africas Liberation Committee.
Likewise, Tanzanias post-independence policies made the country a different nation state in Africa and nothing much has changed today despite some severe challenges. Frankly, Tanzania earned respect and its time to receive the pay-off.
It wasnt a coincidence to see the newly-appointed Chinese president, Xi Jinping, landing in Tanzania before anywhere else in Africa and addressing the continent from Dar es Salaam. As we know China considers Tanzania a far durable and true friend more than any other African country.
In the same fashion, Obama will also speak to the whole continent, the American nation, and the world about investing in and trading with Africa. Moreover, Obama is coming at a time when several presidents will be attending a smart partnership summit in Dar es Salaam, and thereafter a first ladies event will follow with Bush and his wife Laura in attendance.
Kenyans should brace for more things to come because Tanzania, however humble the country is, is flying. Just look at the number of guests and the series of events that have been coming and taking place in Tanzania in the past few years!
There is a message! Kenyans, please chill out; comparatively, Tanzania is flying on the international stage!
WITH AN EAGLE'S EYE : Calm down, Kenyans; Tanzania is flying! - Opinion/Editorial - thecitizen.co.tz
Yaani wewe bado una machungu ya Obama kutembelea Tz. Bado hujapona? Jinsi unavyoandika inaonyesha wazi bado una hasira....It is regrettable that our brothers and sisters from the south are still living in fools paradise!..there is nothing new brother and Kenyan American Obama brought to Tanzania apart from promises...