Case study: Waliosoma english medium ni "wazuri" kuliko waliosoma shule za kawaida

[Tuko]

Nimejaribu kupitia articles chache zikiwemo hizi za Josephat M. Rugemalira, Line Kjølstad Gran, E Sa, Casmir M. Rubagumya, na nyingine kadhaa, lakini nikaoanisha na tunayoshuhudia katika ulimwengu wa mtaani, kiukweli naweza kuwa na a very generalized conclusion kuwa

1. Wanafunzi waliosoma shule za english medium kuanzia primary wanafanya vizuri zaidi kitaaluma katika elimu za juu

2. Wanafunzi waliosoma english medium schools wanafanya vizuri zaidi kwenye interviews za kazi zinazofanyika kiingereza

3. Kwa kuwa mambo mengi ya kazi, research nk yanaingiliana sana na lugha ya kiingereza, watu waliosoma katika english medium schools wanafanya vizuri zaidi

5. Wanafunzi waliosoma katika shule hizo za kiingereza HAKUNA walichopoteza katika uelewa wao wa lugha ya kiswahili, as long as waliishi hapa Tanzania

6. Wanafunzi waliosoma katika shule zinazofundisha kiswahili hawajawa na any added advantage katika matumizi ya lugha ya kiswahili katika kazi, elimu ya juu nk...


USHAURI: Serikali iamue kuwa lugha ya kufundishia iwe kiingereza kuanzia primary
Serikali Ibadilishe mtaala wa somo la kiingereza ili limuwezeshe zaidi mwanafunzi kumudu kuongea lugha hiyo


Karibuni kwa mjadala...

 

[mwekundu]

Hiyo case study ni ya kweli kabisa,ila hii issue imefika hapo kwa sababu ya ukoloni mamboleo(Neo_colonialism) huwa tunahusianisha maarifa na kiingereza,kimtaani taani mtu anayepiga english sana anachukuliwa ana akili sana na kasoma sana
Swali tujiulize je Waingereza wote ni ma genius?
Kuna uhusiano gani kati ya kiingereza na ujuzi(knowledges),utadi(skills) za mtu?
Germany(nchi inayoongoza uchumi Europe) kijerumani ndo lugha ya taifa
China,Japan,Scandinavia countries,French wanatumia lugha zao still ziko developed
Mimi nashauri kwenye interviews,madarasani etc watu wapimwe kutokana na uwezo wao wa kufikiria(IQ) na sio English

 

[King’asti]

Sio kweli kabisa. Wengi wetu tumesoma st kayumba na tuliongea kiingereza fluently by the time tunaanza form one. Sio shule zote za kiswahili zina elimu mbovu. Kuna watoto wa ndugu yangu wanasoma mlimani primary ambayo ni 5 minutes walk kutoka kwao, na nikikutana nao tunapiga umombo na hawana tofauti na wenzao wanaosoma laureate na genesis.

Uwezo wa mtoto au mwanafunzi for that matter unategemea kiasi kikubwa malezi ya familia na waliomzunguka ukiachia huko shuleni alikotoka. Kama walimu ndo wajo miserable, hawajielewi na wana kaxi ya kulaani serikali, watoto wanakuwa wanajionea shuda tu.

Ni jinsi gani mtoto anakuzwa akijiamini, ni jinsi gani anakuwa hamasishwa kutoka nje ya box na kufikia mbingu mpya. Na hii mara nyingi inapatikana kwa familia ambazo zinapeleka watoto huko academia. Hivi umeshasikia vingereza vya hao walimu wa academia vilivyo na nyufa!?

 

[Rugambwa31]

Mwekundu umesema kweli mtupu, nchi nyingi zilizo endelea wanatumia lugha zao, vyuo vikuu unakuta wanafunzi wanajifunza lugha kama kingereza kwa njia mbalimbali kama CDs kusikiliza, kuongea na mwisho kufanya mtihani na kupata cheti kabisa ndiyo wanasonga mbele.

Watanzania tuache kasumba ya kutopenda lugha yetu, tupambane mashuleni kuanzia chini hadi vyuo vikuu kiswahili kitumike na kingereza kisomwe kama somo tutafika mbali. Nashangaa sana wazazi wa siku hizi yani mtoto vidudu au shule ya msingi anavyoongea kingereza wanaona ndiyo anazo akili kumbe sio kabisa.

Hiyo 'case study" yako naona imeacha sababu nyingi sana zinazo pelekea hao waliosoma shule za kingereza kuwa hivyo.

 

[King’asti]

Kuongea kiingereza haimaanishi una akili. Unless anaekuhukumu ndo hana akili. Tunafanya jazi na watu wa mataifa mbalimbali, kuna saa mtu anakuelezea kitu kwa sign language hadi mnaelewana. Kwenye interviews wanakuja watu weupe kichwani hadi unaona haya. Kuna mtu anaongea kiingereza kibovu lakini unless anatakiwa kuwa mwandishi ama spokes person wa taasisi, kiingereza hakijapewa priority hivyo aisee.

tatizo letu ni content kichwani bwana. Aibu tupu, ukijikuta unasaili watu kwa kazi hukawii kuangua kicheko.

Hiyo case study ni ya kweli kabisa,ila hii issue imefika hapo kwa sababu ya ukoloni mamboleo(Neo_colonialism) huwa tunahusianisha maarifa na kiingereza,kimtaani taani mtu anayepiga english sana anachukuliwa ana akili sana na kasoma sana
Swali tujiulize je Waingereza wote ni ma genius?
Kuna uhusiano gani kati ya kiingereza na ujuzi(knowledges),utadi(skills) za mtu?
Germany(nchi inayoongoza uchumi Europe) kijerumani ndo lugha ya taifa
China,Japan,Scandinavia countries,French wanatumia lugha zao still ziko developed
Mimi nashauri kwenye interviews,madarasani etc watu wapimwe kutokana na uwezo wao wa kufikiria(IQ) na sio English

 

[adakiss23]

Tatizo waliosoma English medium hawajui hesabu kabisa. Vilaza sana

 

[stephot]

Mwekundu umesema kweli mtupu, nchi nyingi zilizo endelea wanatumia lugha zao, vyuo vikuu unakuta wanafunzi wanajifunza lugha kama kingereza kwa njia mbalimbali kama CDs kusikiliza, kuongea na mwisho kufanya mtihani na kupata cheti kabisa ndiyo wanasonga mbele.

Watanzania tuache kasumba ya kutopenda lugha yetu, tupambane mashuleni kuanzia chini hadi vyuo vikuu kiswahili kitumike na kingereza kisomwe kama somo tutafika mbali. Nashangaa sana wazazi wa siku hizi yani mtoto vidudu au shule ya msingi anavyoongea kingereza wanaona ndiyo anazo akili kumbe sio kabisa.

Hiyo 'case study" yako naona imeacha sababu nyingi sana zinazo pelekea hao waliosoma shule za kingereza kuwa hivyo.

Wanao pata kazi za u-Radio,TV presenter wengi ni wale wanaoongea kiingereza vizuri,wanaopata kazi za mahoteli kirahisi ni wale wenye kujua vizuri kiingreza,Air hosteses pia ni lazima awe anakijua vizuri kiingereza na jamaa yangu mmoja aliniambia vijana wengi waliosoma English medium schools wanapita vizuri mitihani ya CPA ukilinganisha na wale wa Kayumba,naungana na yule aliesema kuwa kizungu kiwe lugha ya kufundishia tokea primary school na kiswahili kibakie kama somo.

 

[Ndumbayeye]

1.English medium schools schools ni shule zilizosheheni resources za kutosha kama madarasa, vitabu, maabara nk

2. Walimu wake wanafundisha ama kwa kuswagwa vizuri na wenye shule au kufurahia malipo kulingana na wenzao hasa serikalini

3. Wanaosoma shule za kiingereza wengi wao wanatoka kwenye mazingira mazuri majumbani, ama wazazi wao wameneemeka kwa elimu na uchumi imara

4. Kwa uwazi kabisa watoto wakali watakopitia shule hizi watakimbiza sana kwenye soko la ajira linalotawaliwa na lugha ya kiingereza, na sio kila mtoto atatamba

 

[Lonestriker]

Sio kweli kabisa. Wengi wetu tumesoma st kayumba na tuliongea kiingereza fluently by the time tunaanza form one. Sio shule zote za kiswahili zina elimu mbovu. Kuna watoto wa ndugu yangu wanasoma mlimani primary ambayo ni 5 minutes walk kutoka kwao, na nikikutana nao tunapiga umombo na hawana tofauti na wenzao wanaosoma laureate na genesis.

Uwezo wa mtoto au mwanafunzi for that matter unategemea kiasi kikubwa malezi ya familia na waliomzunguka ukiachia huko shuleni alikotoka. Kama walimu ndo wajo miserable, hawajielewi na wana kaxi ya kulaani serikali, watoto wanakuwa wanajionea shuda tu.

Ni jinsi gani mtoto anakuzwa akijiamini, ni jinsi gani anakuwa hamasishwa kutoka nje ya box na kufikia mbingu mpya. Na hii mara nyingi inapatikana kwa familia ambazo zinapeleka watoto huko academia. Hivi umeshasikia vingereza vya hao walimu wa academia vilivyo na nyufa!?

Muanzisha uzi amesema general conclusion,naona wewe unaongelea a few exceptions. Tukubali, English medium wana advantage.

 

[King Kong III]

»Shule yako ya english medium international FM akademia unayotaka kuipromote inaitwaje?

 

[Bata batani]

hahaahaa ndugu....yangu hizo ni stori za vijiwe vya kahawa...ni hivi nisikilize nikwambie....

1.katika swala la ajira...watu huajiriwa kwa kuangalia taaluma yako..au fani yako...na sio kujua kiingereza moja...
2.waajiri wengi huwa wanangalia una nini kichwani.....we unafikili kazi kama mechanical,electrical,nedicine. lazima uwe mtaalamu wa mambo na sio english broo

 

[USER2013]

Jamani tusijidanganye.
Eti kwamba hawa wanaosoma english medium wanakuwa hawana kitu kichwani? Sio kweli. Mtoa mada kasema kama una akili af ukasoma english medium una advantage
Issue ni kwamba unaposoma hizi za kwetu hasa kipindi cha hivi karibuni ambapo morali ya kufundisha haipo kwa walimu unaweza kufulia vile vile.
Tuweke ukweli wazi; soko la ajira hasa la kuajiriwa haliwezi kubeba output yote ya vyuo na shule. Kwa hiyo sisi wa kayumba lazima kuna baadhi ya fursa tunakosa.
Ni kweli kwamba nchi kubwa kama Germany, na baadhi ya nchi za Asia wanatumia lugha zao. Lakini usisahau kwamba hawa pia wako vizuri kiuchumi na wanaweza jitegemea wao. Sasa wakina sisi na uchumi huu itakuwa vipi uking'ang'ania kiswahili?
Halafu na hyo utalaamu wako ulioupata kwa lugha ya kiswahili utaenda nchi gani nyingine kufanya kazi?
Kagame kastukia. Wanajifunza sana kiswahili na kiingereza, lengo kubwa ni watu wake waweze kuwa mobile within East Africa and beyond
Sasa nyie mnaotaka kutumia kiswahili malengo ya badae ni nini?

 

[lbokilo]

Nimefundishwa na Rubagumya anachosistiza ni kutumia lugha yetu kwa ajili ya ufahamu mzuri lakini anashauri pia Kiingereza kifundishwe vizuri na sio kuwa lugha ya kufundishia. Shule zinazotumia Kiingereza kama lugha ya kufundishia zinakuwa vizuri kutokana na kuwa na waalimu wa kutosha na vifaa

 

[KILLANEKELI]

Ivi wabongo nani katuroga? Ivi kweli naakili zako timamu unaamini ukijua kiingereza ndo umejua kila kitu, kwa iyo mtoto wa kiingereza wa miaka sita akija Tz unaweza ukampa ajira kwasababu anajua kuongea kiingereza si ndiyo!

 

[thinky]

Ivi wabongo nani katuroga? Ivi kweli naakili zako timamu unaamini ukijua kiingereza ndo umejua kila kitu, kwa iyo mtoto wa kiingereza wa miaka sita akija Tz unaweza ukampa ajira kwasababu anajua kuongea kiingereza si ndiyo!

6 tena mkubwa na hata anakufundisha .ajira na anapata ,kwa wenzetu si hapa utapotea

 

[Sadock Lazaro]

Cyo sahii kabisa labda ni wazuri kwa kuongea kiingereza but kwa kufanya vizur hamna tena masomo ya sayans hawana lolote labda wakiwa form one wanaonekana wazur lkn kufikia form three hamna lolote

 

[Kiranga]

I have never studied at an English Medium School before the secondary level, and even during secondary, tambaza, while sitting next to IST, was no IST.Olympio and IST notwithstanding, the craze was simply not conceived then, at least en masse. I briefly taught at one English Medium though, so I should have some first hand experience. I am told by native speakers - sometimes with offending, though genuine, astonishment where perhaps elation on my part was expected, that my verbal and written English is devoid of some telltale signs that are a characteristic of our national issues with this rather strange tongue.

In scientific research, one pitfall to be avoided is to take correlation as causation.

Perhaps it was my home library, love for American broadcasts through ABC (shouts out to Peter Jennings) and later CNN through CTN, Yo! MTV Rap and American comedy tapes, comic books, love of literature etc that propelled my ability to a passably acceptable diction if not outright Dickensian maestro level in using the english language.

This brings about a very important point.

Are we associating the advantage we see from children in a certain socioeconomic bracket, the ones who can afford to go to an English Medium school but are heavily augmented by other factors at home, purely to the English medium schools?

How come I did not need an English Medium school to be rather comfortable than the average Tanzanian using this strange tongue and boosting my other social virtues mentioned above?

Am I that exceptionally gifted? Not so sure. My mom spoke French with ease, in Tanzania at that, so it's possible there could be some natural advantages with languages, but I doubt that.

My bottom line question is, if we are attributing the success to the english medium schools, since correlation does not equal causation, can we pin down the success to the english medium schools? For example by conducting a study of relatively well off children (similar to those who go to english medium schools) who are not going to english medium schools but are augmented by the same environment at home? Are there any more of those? Or is our society so stratified nowadays that this species is endangered if not extinct already?

Otherwise, the cause of the difference may lay at home, and even the thinking that making all primary schools english medium, without raising the standard of living for all, and therefore the augmenting home environment, will amount to an exercise in futility.

 

[Lonestriker]

Brilliant argument but still not convincing, cutting out the flowery words in your post it is sufficient to say you are just an outlier, an exception to a general observed trend in our society. Generally speaking, it is not even something worth arguing over given the insurmountable mountain of evidence pointing to the advantage the fortunate ones who have gone to English Medium Schools have compared to Swahili Medium Schools(Public Schools).
In your case, you were fortunate enough to be brought in an 'English-friendly environment'. Not so many can be that lucky given that Swahili dominates our environment.
In a sample specimen of lets say a hundred Tanzanians, you are likely to meet very few with an upbringing that comes close or relate to yours.
Ceteris paribus, English medium schools' students have an advantage over the swahili medium schools' students.

 

[HMS]

Mimi navoona bora nchi ibadili lugha na kuweka kiingereza mpaka primary ili wanafunzi wawe na uwezo wa kuongea vizuri lugha ya kiingereza maana masomo yote yapo kwa lugha ya kiingereza, vijana wanahangaika kwanzia form one hawaelewi na hapa wengi wanakata tama maana wanakariri tu na sio kufahamu, japo mbeleni wanaendana na mazingira ya lugha hiyo lakini kuji express mtu hawezi maana lugha alioizoea ni Kiswahili. na hatuwezi kusema Kiswahili ndo iwe lugha ya masomo kisa tu kuna nchi kama ujerumani au china n.k wanatumia lugha zao, ni kweli lakini wao wana technologia sisi nchi ye2 ndogo sn na maskini sn, wao wanatumia lugha yao mpaka kwenye computa, darasani, kila sehemu, sasa tukisema tufanye hivo kwa Kiswahili itakua ni ngumu sana, sasa ili tuweze kua watu wenye uwezo wa kujielezea vizuri kama wakenya na wanigeria n.k bac tufanye kingereza km lugha ya ufundishaji tokea elimu ya msingi. mtu yupo chuo hajui kujielezea na ni wengi japo juhudi za mtu mwenyewe pia zinaweza kufanya mabadiliko.

 

[Nivea]

tatizo waliosoma english medium hawajui hesabu kabisa. Vilaza sana

na wanachokiongea ni tofauti na wanachkiandika hahahaahah