Case study: Waliosoma english medium ni "wazuri" kuliko waliosoma shule za kawaida

Mjuni Lwambo · Jan 15, 2014

Ok, sawa.
Hata kama haukuvimaliza vitabu vya Chase vyote lakini it's marvelous katika level ya O-LEVEL, lakini ulisoma na vile vingine kibao ulivyoorodhesha, kwa wanafunzi wengi kusoma kitu ambacho ni nje ya vile vilivyoko kwenye Sylubus ni ngumu, mimi niliishia kusoma tu Things fall apart, The river between, songs of Lawino na vingine kwa ajili ya kujibia mitihani tu,
Of course kama mimi mazingira ya nyumbani hayakuwa condusive , wazee wangu ni wakulima kijijini kwa hiyo ukitoka shule unaambiwa ukachunge ng'ombe, ndani hamna kitabu wala nini.

Kwa hiyo sio kweli kwamba English medium ni bora, mimi nilisoma na wa English medium, lakini wote, like a coincidence A-LEVEL walikwama, and that was that.

Kiranga said:
Now now now now, namaanisha nilimaliza kusoma vitabu fulani vya Chase.

Ningevipata vyote probably ningeweza kuvimaliza, lakini sikubahatika kuvipata vyote. Chase had that page turning style ambayo nilikuwa naipenda sana, it is addictive.

Sasa mtu kama wewe una vitabu hivyo, kama una watoto hapo nyumbani, wanaanza kuona mazingira ya vitabu nyumbani (although some of the Chase covers are not exactly child friendly, but in any case I am referring to books in general).

Kwa mtoto mdadisi, yale mazingira ya nyumbani yanaweza kuwa stimulant kubwa ya kujua lugha kuliko hata shuleni.

Mimi nakumbuka nilivyokuwa mdogo nilikuwa nasoma mpaka Engineering plans zilizokuwa nyumbani, sasa hapo mtu unaanza kupata udadisi kuhusu hizi plans zinasomwaje, hivi vialama vina maana gani etc kabla hujajua trigonometry.

Ndiyo maana naona umuhimu wa kuhoji hii dhana ya kutafsiri "watoto wanaoenda english medium wanajua zaidi kiingereza" kumaanisha kwamba english medium schools zinawapa advantage ya kujua zaidi kiingereza.

Obviously kufundishwa kwa kiingereza kunachangia, lakini kwa kiwango gani? Na kiwango gani kinachangiwa na mazingira ya nyumbani?

Inawezekana mtu kwao wana Time Magazine subscription, akiwa bored anajisomea, anajenga msamiati na uelewa wa Kiingereza, halafu akija kuonekana anajua, sifa zinaenda kwenye english medium school.

Ndachuwa · Jan 15, 2014

King'asti said:
Sio kweli kabisa. Wengi wetu tumesoma st kayumba na tuliongea kiingereza fluently by the time tunaanza form one. Sio shule zote za kiswahili zina elimu mbovu. Kuna watoto wa ndugu yangu wanasoma mlimani primary ambayo ni 5 minutes walk kutoka kwao, na nikikutana nao tunapiga umombo na hawana tofauti na wenzao wanaosoma laureate na genesis.

Uwezo wa mtoto au mwanafunzi for that matter unategemea kiasi kikubwa malezi ya familia na waliomzunguka ukiachia huko shuleni alikotoka. Kama walimu ndo wajo miserable, hawajielewi na wana kaxi ya kulaani serikali, watoto wanakuwa wanajionea shuda tu.

Ni jinsi gani mtoto anakuzwa akijiamini, ni jinsi gani anakuwa hamasishwa kutoka nje ya box na kufikia mbingu mpya. Na hii mara nyingi inapatikana kwa familia ambazo zinapeleka watoto huko academia. Hivi umeshasikia vingereza vya hao walimu wa academia vilivyo na nyufa!?

Tuliomaliza 80s and early 90s ni sawa lakini hawa wa 2000+ ligha ni tatizo kubwa

Kiranga · Jan 15, 2014

Mjuni Lwambo said:
Ok, sawa.
Hata kama haukuvimaliza vitabu vya Chase vyote lakini it's marvelous katika level ya O-LEVEL, lakini ulisoma na vile vingine kibao ulivyoorodhesha, kwa wanafunzi wengi kusoma kitu ambacho ni nje ya vile vilivyoko kwenye Sylubus ni ngumu, mimi niliishia kusoma tu Things fall apart, The river between, songs of Lawino na vingine kwa ajili ya kujibia mitihani tu,
Of course kama mimi mazingira ya nyumbani hayakuwa condusive , wazee wangu ni wakulima kijijini kwa hiyo ukitoka shule unaambiwa ukachunge ng'ombe, ndani hamna kitabu wala nini.

Kwa hiyo sio kweli kwamba English medium ni bora, mimi nilisoma na wa English medium, lakini wote, like a coincidence A-LEVEL walikwama, and that was that.

Hii concept ya kwamba "english medium ni bora" ndiyo najaribu kuimulika zaidi, asante kwa mfano wako.

Ile pdf unaisoma lakini?

Mwananchi · Jan 15, 2014

Jamaa kaongelea ufahamu wa watu wanafunzi hawa kulinganisha na shule za serikali maana kama mtu alisoma English medium haendi shule za kata na mara nyingi shule hizo zinafaulisha wanafunzi kwa kiwango cha juu. Kama unambeza kwa ilo sawa bila kuingiza hoja yako

mwekundu said:
Hiyo case study ni ya kweli kabisa,ila hii issue imefika hapo kwa sababu ya ukoloni mamboleo(Neo_colonialism) huwa tunahusianisha maarifa na kiingereza,kimtaani taani mtu anayepiga english sana anachukuliwa ana akili sana na kasoma sana
Swali tujiulize je Waingereza wote ni ma genius?
Kuna uhusiano gani kati ya kiingereza na ujuzi(knowledges),utadi(skills) za mtu?
Germany(nchi inayoongoza uchumi Europe) kijerumani ndo lugha ya taifa
China,Japan,Scandinavia countries,French wanatumia lugha zao still ziko developed
Mimi nashauri kwenye interviews,madarasani etc watu wapimwe kutokana na uwezo wao wa kufikiria(IQ) na sio English

Mwananchi · Jan 15, 2014

Umeongelea Ujerumani, China Japan na kwingineko lakini wao kwa lugha yao wanaweza kutengeneza vitu vyao kwa lugha hiyo na kwa kusoma manual kwa lugha yao, wewe kiswahili kinatumika wapi katika technologia yetu? Linganisha vitu vinavyoendana. Mjerumani au mchina lugha yake kaikuza katika technologia mswahili lugha yake kaikuza kwenye nini?

mwekundu said:
Hiyo case study ni ya kweli kabisa,ila hii issue imefika hapo kwa sababu ya ukoloni mamboleo(Neo_colonialism) huwa tunahusianisha maarifa na kiingereza,kimtaani taani mtu anayepiga english sana anachukuliwa ana akili sana na kasoma sana
Swali tujiulize je Waingereza wote ni ma genius?
Kuna uhusiano gani kati ya kiingereza na ujuzi(knowledges),utadi(skills) za mtu?
Germany(nchi inayoongoza uchumi Europe) kijerumani ndo lugha ya taifa
China,Japan,Scandinavia countries,French wanatumia lugha zao still ziko developed
Mimi nashauri kwenye interviews,madarasani etc watu wapimwe kutokana na uwezo wao wa kufikiria(IQ) na sio English

paparazzi · Jan 15, 2014

Kiranga said:
Hii concept ya kwamba "english medium ni bora" ndiyo najaribu kuimulika zaidi, asante kwa mfano wako.

Ile pdf unaisoma lakini?

Kiranga...
Wewe si wa kawaida mkuu, there's a need to scrutinize your IQ, aint manifesting your superhumanity but your smartness upstairs...
Always snatching your notions mkuu...
Bado najifunza

osokonoi · Jan 15, 2014

Tafsiri ya heading yako ni kwamba unawaongelea wale ambao tayari wamekwisha pita level ya primary, secondary and universities (hili linajionyesha pale ulipotaja uwezo wa kwenye interviews za kazi)Now, kuniaminisha juu ya case study yako, naomba unitajie watu muhimu kwenye inchi yetu ambao wamesoma english medium na siyo shule za kawaida

kadoda11 · Jan 15, 2014

Mjuni Lwambo said:
Kuna watu wanapiga kingereza acha bhana, huwezi amini kama ni mbongo I see, mpaka akiandika kisukuma ndio unaweza kuamini, ni noma sana.

mkuu kuna jamaa anaitwa Geza Ulole .this guy is awesome in english.so far sijaona mtu anayemfikia hapa jf.halafu jamaa yupo well up to date na international affairs. ukitaka kumfaidi tembelea international forum au kenya forums.rafiki zangu wakenya pamoja na kujifanya wanajua kizungu sana,geza ulole huwa anawapeleka puta mpaka kwenye forum zao.jf kuna vichwa vya kila aina.

Mjuni Lwambo · Jan 15, 2014

Kiranga said:
Hii concept ya kwamba "english medium ni bora" ndiyo najaribu kuimulika zaidi, asante kwa mfano wako.

Ile pdf unaisoma lakini?

Nashukuru sana ile pdf naisoma lakini sijaimaliza, inaendelea kunifungua macho.
Nkiimaliza nitakupa mrejesho.

Kama una soft copy na kitabu kingine kizuri ukipata muda nitumie, I want to start reading books now.

Mjuni Lwambo · Jan 15, 2014

kadoda11 said:
mkuu kuna jamaa anaitwa Geza Ulole .this guy is awesome in english.so far sijaona mtu anayemfikia hapa jf.halafu jamaa yupo well up to date na international affairs. ukitaka kumfaidi tembelea international forum au kenya forums.rafiki zangu wakenya pamoja na kujifanya wanajua kizungu sana,geza ulole huwa anawapeleka puta mpaka kwenye forum zao.jf kuna vichwa vya kila aina.

I think Geza Ulole is Kenyan!!, I am not astonished for a Kenyan to be good in English cause it is their National Language.

Mjuni Lwambo · Jan 15, 2014

paparazzi said:
Kiranga...
Wewe si wa kawaida mkuu, there's a need to scrutinize your IQ, aint manifesting your superhumanity but your smartness upstairs...
Always snatching your notions mkuu...
Bado najifunza

Sure, nakuunga mkono, huyu jamaa huwa namshangaa, sio tu katika lugha fuatilia comments zake utaniambia.

Geza Ulole · Jan 15, 2014

Mjuni Lwambo said:
I think Geza Ulole is Kenyan!!, I am not astonished for a Kenyan to be good in English cause it is their National Language.

we usinibatize Ukenya mie...hamna Mkenya anaitwa Geza Ulole jina la lugha ya Kizaramo

kadoda11 · Jan 15, 2014

Mjuni Lwambo said:
I think Geza Ulole is Kenyan!!, I am not astonished for a Kenyan to be good in English cause it is their National Language.

not sure if he is a kenyan.let me ask him to come this way and let us hear it from the horses mouth.though i dont think if he will,the reason is i have never seen a geza's post in taz/local based forums. cc Geza Ulole.

kadoda11 · Jan 15, 2014

Geza Ulole said:
we usinibatize Ukenya mie...hamna Mkenya anaitwa Geza Ulole jina la lugha ya Kizaramo

hahaha kaka kumbe upo.bora umekuja kuondoa utata.lol

Mjuni Lwambo · Jan 15, 2014

Geza Ulole said:
we usinibatize Ukenya mie...hamna Mkenya anaitwa Geza Ulole jina la lugha ya Kizaramo

Duuuu!!!, samahani mkuu.
Unajua huwa ninakukuta sana kwenye jukwaa la Kenya ndio maana, Ila hongera umesifiwa kwa kiingereza.

SHERRIF ARPAIO · Jan 15, 2014

Geza Ulole said:
we usinibatize Ukenya mie...hamna Mkenya anaitwa Geza Ulole jina la lugha ya Kizaramo

Huwa nafurahia sana michango yako hapa jamvini, bossman.

SHERRIF ARPAIO · Jan 15, 2014

paparazzi said:
Kiranga...
Wewe si wa kawaida mkuu, there's a need to scrutinize your IQ, aint manifesting your superhumanity but your smartness upstairs...
Always snatching your notions mkuu...
Bado najifunza

Jukwaa lingekuwa tamu sana kama tungepata japo viranga 100

kadoda11 · Jan 15, 2014

SHERRIF ARPAIO said:
Jukwaa lingekuwa tamu sana kama tungepata japo viranga 100

mpo ila hamtaki kujitokeza.

SHERRIF ARPAIO · Jan 15, 2014

kadoda11 said:
mpo ila hamtaki kujitokeza.

I hope wamekusikia na watajitokeza

Kiranga · Jan 16, 2014

Lonestriker said:
Muanzisha uzi amesema general conclusion,naona wewe unaongelea a few exceptions. Tukubali, English medium wana advantage.

Nipe statistics na ulikozitoa na methodolody iliyotumiwa kukufanya useme hivyo.

Halafu hujanisoma ama hujanielewa.

Watu wanaosoma English medium schools wana advantage, hili halijapingwa, ukinisoma utaona nimeandika, kama hujaona ama hujasoma au comprehension yako ndogo.

Swali langu halijajibiwa, advantage hii ni kiasi gani inatokana na shule na kiasi gani inatokana na mazingira ya nyumbani na kwingine nje ya shule?

Hujajibu swali nililouliza, na ulilojibu sijauliza.

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