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Country headed in wrong direction, says new survey



Ipsos Synovate lead researcher Tom Wolf speaks when the research company released its opinion polls May 10 2014. Sixty per cent of Kenyans think the country is headed in the wrong direction, according to newly published results of an opinion poll

By MAZERA NDURYA

In Summary


  • According to the survey, 26 per cent of Kenyans think the country is headed in the right direction while 13 per cent are not sure, or did not answer the question posed by the pollsters.
  • The opinion poll by Ipsos Kenya shows that Kenyans were more concerned about their security, with the recent cases of terror attacks in Mombasa and Nairobi compounding their fears.
  • As the debate on public expenditure continues, Kenyans have suggested ways that would see the government cut down on its recurrent spending, with the fight against corruption being given more prominence.

Sixty per cent of Kenyans think the country is headed in the wrong direction, according to newly published results of an opinion poll.

The survey by Ipsos Synovate also found that an overwhelming number of Kenyans were concerned with the increased state of insecurity in the country blamed on Al-Shabaab.

According to the survey, 26 per cent of Kenyans think the country is headed in the right direction while 13 per cent are not sure, or did not answer the question posed by the pollsters.

The highest proportion of those indicating that the country is headed in the wrong direction are from the Coast and Nyanza regions, both at 86 per cent.

About half in the Rift Valley think that the country is headed the wrong way while in Central Kenya the figure strands at 26 per cent, the pollsters said.

The opinion poll by Ipsos Kenya shows that Kenyans were more concerned about their security, with the recent cases of terror attacks in Mombasa and Nairobi compounding their fears.

An overwhelming 78 per cent of the respondents believe that the Jubilee Government was doing worse than the Grand Coalition government, citing corruption, rising public expenditure and unfulfilled election promises.

Thirty-eight per cent of Kenyans are concerned about the cost of living, with the next big worry being insecurity and unemployment.

GRIM REALITY

"However polarised people were in the last general elections, differences among Kenyans have disappeared and they have almost similar views on issues affecting them," said Ipsos socio-political consultant Dr Tom Wolf.

"Insecurity is now pressing down the high cost of living as Kenyans are divided on Jubilee performance," he said.

Dr Wolf said although there were grounds for optimism, there was nothing to celebrate about as most of the respondents believe the government was not headed in the right direction.

Regarding the recent effort to improve national security, especially with "Operation Usalama Watch", Kenyans had mixed reactions, with more than one third of respondents saying it will both cause "more terrorist attacks" and "a reduction in crime", polling at 39 and 37 percent.

Last weekend, several people lost their lives in twin blasts in Mombasa and Nairobi that targeted travellers. The pollsters believe the situation would have been different in terms of ratings if the survey had been conducted after the terror attacks.

The poll was conducted between April 29 and May 7.

The pollsters said that Kenyans generally painted a grim economic reality, with 59 per cent stating that their economic conditions had worsened since last year.

This proportion has changed a little over the previous two surveys conducted three and six months ago respectively.

In terms of political alignment, nearly three times as many respondents who identified with Jubilee report an improvement in such conditions compared with those who identify with Cord.

Slightly more than a quarter of households stated that they or someone in their homes ever goes to bed hungry, down from 36 per cent three months ago. The number is highest in Western, Nyanza and Coast.

WAGE BILL

As the debate on public expenditure continues, Kenyans have suggested ways that would see the government cut down on its recurrent spending, with the fight against corruption being given more prominence.

"Most frequently mentioned is the need to reduce corruption, with 49 per cent supporting the move, followed by the cutting of salaries and allowances of some civil servants and elected officials," said Dr Wolf.

Dr Wolf said the survey showed Kenyans have concrete ideas on how public expenditure can be cut given that only six per cent of the respondents did not seem to know what was going on.

"Both supporters of Jubilee and Cord seem to be reading from the same script as they are pretty united on the need to reduce public expenditure," he said.

The survey highlighted some change in the confidence ratings of leading officials and institutions where the main exception has been a fall in the ratings of confidence for the country's two top leaders and the media.

According to the poll, ratings for the President and his Deputy have both fallen by 9 pc and 11 pc respectively, while confidence in the media has fallen by 12 pc.

Country headed in wrong direction, says new survey - News - nation.co.ke

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Dont regard this ratings highly, some Kenyans may be a highly biased towards this adminstration but they dont see doom as a total summation of the larger pic, just dissatisfaction in the mannerism of policy formulation and implementation in da short term. Otherwise, the duo are doing great and the majority are fine, what ad be worried about is not even this ratings but the sum total costs of the SGR negotiated by GoK & China inclusive of interests & hidden costs not yet revealed
 
Geza Ulole said:
what do lawmaina78, waltham and Buru58 think of Kenya? can you tell us your experience?
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The beauty about Kenya is, there are these kind of surveys that keep the government on toes, unlike Bongo where everything is assumed to be fine and ok, yet World Bank has a grim picture of you Home
Tanzania is a good example of the belief that Africa is doomed, since they have everything including peace but poverty is still very high and painting a pathetic picture.
 
That Tanzania you talk about grew over 7% while your Kenya hardly reached 4%! And as far as i know Kenya has more people under poverty line > 54% compared to Tanzania around 37%
 
Geza Ulole said:
That Tanzania you talk about grew over 7% while your Kenya hardly reached 4%! And as far as i know Kenya has more people under poverty line > 54% compared to Tanzania around 37%
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Us having more people living below the poverty line should not give you an orgasm yet because, you have 11,500,000 hectares of arable land while we have only 5,500,000 hectares, yet we still beat you in GDP, even in GDP per capita and that's with all the resources you have including peace. You're a damned good example why the west thinks our African IQ is low, having all those resources but still languishing in apathy.

And by the way, you're not going to catch up even with your panting and huffing, somebody posted the data below from IMF in another thread. 2019 will sitll see us a powerhouse and the big boy around.

 
2019?keep dreaming while your estimates keep coming short you were supposed to grew 5% 2013 but you barely hit 4%! And you forget Tanzania gas is not factored in those estimates of yours! keep being desperate Tanzania economy is on track to grow over 7.8% this year before over 8%! With your tourism and tea exports are doing miserably i doubt if you will grow at 4% this year!

[h=1]Bad tourism season at Kenya coast[/h]
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BY PROF. DR. WOLFGANG H. THOME, ETN AFRICA CORRESPONDENT | MAY 12, 2014Poor occupancies in resorts along the Kenya coast over the past year have eroded the financial position of many of these and associated businesses. Curio stalls along the Diani beach road were seen closed, or shop attendants standing idly chatting with their neighbors while waiting for the few foreign tourists presently staying along this prime stretch of Kenya's white beaches to perhaps stroll up and bargain for some deals. Restaurants and bars were equally showing signs of little business, and some of the staff spoken to during a recent visit acknowledged that they were all struggling to stay open and stay financially afloat, all literally fighting to have the few visitors give them their business.
It is now emerging that hotels and resorts along the coast are indeed struggling to meet their financial obligations as a result of lower occupancies and sharply reduced cash flow, and some hoteliers spoken to have, on condition of anonymity, accepted that they are reaching a point where paying utilities, suppliers and staff have become a juggling act with balls starting to drop. ‘There is little cash coming in right now, our reserves are depleted because we had a terrible season and still we have to pay for electricity, water, council fees, staff wages and suppliers. It is almost inevitable that some of us have to defer payments and maybe even default to some extent. Banks are pushing to reduce overdrafts but how that can happen is a mystery now. This is the reason many hotels have closed. They say it is for renovations but we all know there are no renovations taking place in most of those. Some yes, some do but they are the exception. For most it all boiled down to reducing the outflow of cash. Once closed the utility bills are reduced, the wage bill is reduced because some are laying staff of without pay for that time they are closed. The problem now are suppliers because they need cash also and some are getting impatient. Fresh deliveries could be stopped any time or hotels could be put on cash only basis. Once they start to take legal steps to recover money the flood gates are open. Banks with loans and overdrafts are also constantly calling the hotels when they can get paid. There is one of the biggest fears for the coast hotels. When the banks start to call in loans or insist overdrafts are reduced or paid back there is no way we can figure that one out. Banks have choices to make, when they start calling in securities and put first one and then many into receivership, the value will broadly drop of those hotels.
Once that happens even receivers can no longer be expected to turn the tide. Everyone right now is watching and waiting but I fear, when the first bank starts to act, when the first suppliers go to court, the card house will fall down' said one hotelier in a lengthy conversation recently. Feedback from some tourism operators attending the INDABA fair and the Africa Travel Week indicates that they were trying to sell Kenya's famous beaches in South Africa, where it is the cold winter season now and where many people are trying to seek warmer climes for a holiday. But while Mango, one of South Africa's low cost carriers, is now operating two scheduled flights a week to Zanzibar, no direct or nonstop air connections exist between Johannesburg and Mombasa.
‘If only we could find an airline to offer direct flights to Mombasa from South Africa, it could be a short term measure to boost occupancies in our resorts. But when people have to fly via Nairobi and change planes there, it is another issue altogether. When 1Time stopped their flights there was hope maybe another airline could step in but instead they have boosted their flights to Zanzibar. Our tariffs right now for beach hotels in Kenya are very very competitive, to the point of actually losing money because the high taxes have to be paid, just to put heads into beds. But even with such special deals, there are few takers. Until a charter or scheduled flight connects Mombasa to Johannesburg it will be tough to succeed' wrote another source who participated in the INDABA trade fair.
Kenya's Central Bank last week in their regular market analysis has added tourism, transport and hospitality businesses to the high risk sectors and there are now fears that commercial banks might have to act in order to prevent their non-performing loan portfolios to put pressure on their own bottom lines and ability to make profits and pay dividends. One senior industry stakeholder did say that KAHC, the Kenya Association of Hotel Keepers and Caterers, is watching the situation carefully as the tourism industry is now at cross roads, waiting to see if the government does come up with a major bailout package or else let market forces decide who survives and who does not. Watch this space for breaking and regular news updates from across Eastern Africa.



http://www.eturbonews.com/45663/bad-tourism-season-kenya-coast
[h=1]Kenya tea exports rose in 2013[/h]Written by KENNEDY KANGETHE // March 27, 2014 // Comment


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According to Tea Board of Kenya statistics, exports earnings rose by 2 percent from Sh112.2 billion in 2012 to Sh114.4 billion recorded in 2013/FILE

NAIROBI, Kenya, Mar 27 – Kenya tea export volumes for the year 2013 increased by 14.9 percent to 494.3 million kilograms compared to 430.2 million kilos recorded in 2012.According to Tea Board of Kenya statistics, exports earnings rose by 2 percent from Sh112.2 billion in 2012 to Sh114.4 billion recorded in 2013.
Despite increased earnings, the export value per kilo declined from Sh268 to Sh232 on account of global demand and supply situation and disturbances in key markets.
However, compared to the previous years, the market base was higher as Kenya tea was exported to seven new markets that included Vietnam, Philippines, Azerbaijan, South Sudan, Myanmar, South Korea and the Czech Republic.
In addition, recent markets such as Angola as well as seasonal markets such as Syria, Taiwan and Chad imported higher volumes compared to previous years.
The Tea Board of Kenya says this is an indication that the Kenya tea export market base is rapidly expanding into emerging and new markets owing to continued industry promotion activities.
Cumulative production for the year 2013 was significantly higher at 432.4 million kilos against 369.5 million kilos recorded in 2012 owing to good weather conditions that was mostly experienced in the first half of the year.
In the month of December 2013 production was slightly higher at 41.7 million kilos, against 41.4 million kilos recorded during the corresponding month of 2012 attributed to enhanced rainfall coupled with warm temperatures experienced in the tea growing areas.
Pakistan was the leading export destination for Kenyan tea at 22 percent of the of the total export volume for the month having imported 8.7 million kilos.
Other key export destinations for Kenyan tea were Egypt (8.6 million kgs), Afghanistan (5.1 million kgs), UK (4.9 million kgs) and UAE (2.4 million kgs).
http://www.capitalfm.co.ke/business/2014/03/kenya-tea-exports-rose-in-2013/



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You're a true troll kweli, I've painted in green where you need to read too beside that short meaningless sentence. Despite the challenges, we are still going to maintain the lead as the region powerhouse, and hey I've also not mentioned our ongoing projects that will inject into our GDP, so put off your perennial Bagamoyo port stories. Don't even know where you got data about our less than 4% yet we recently produced data showing we have hit 4.7% in the midst of turmoil. Wait until we stabilize.
And the most significant impacts of your gas discovery on the local economy will not be felt for at least seven to ten years. Read data don't just yap. The fact you have more nyan'gaus than us now, the future still not clear.
 
This year you will grow less than 2013 i.e. less than 4.7% you claim! that's a fact! prediction are already on the board and much more supported by hunger already experienced around Kenya at the moment! As for the tea you fetch less money per kg compared to a year earlier!

[h=1]Falling Leaves: Kenya's Farmers Falter as Tea Prices Drop[/h]


Thousands of miles from the streets of Cairo, Kenyan farmers are feeling the effects of Egypt's instability as demand for tea falls significantly.
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Farm workers harvesting tea in Kenya. Photograph by Kamweti Mutu.

[h=3]Nyeri, Kenya:[/h]The end of the year is usually bonus season in Nyeri, the centre of Kenya's tea growing region. At this time, farmers in the foothills of the Aberdares and Mount Kenya, hills thick with the precious crop, receive an extra annual dividend and descend on Nyeri to paint the town red. The bars and butcheries overflow with men splashing out on beer and barbecuednyama choma – a national favourite – while merchants and prostitutes make the two hour journey north from Nairobi hoping for a share of the windfall.
This is the time that tea farmers typically make much of their money. They receive a monthly payment, but that is not usually enough. “I spend all of my monthly income on running my farm,” says Joseph Kamau, a tea farmer from the Aberdares. “The [end of year] dividend is how I make enough money for the year ahead. I need it to survive and pay for a few small luxuries.”
Individual smallholders like Kamau are self-employed, cultivating a thousand or so bushes of tea and selling the green leaves they produce to one of the area's factories. They receive no steady wage − though they are shareholders in whichever factory they supply − and they are paid for their tea according to the amount of good quality produce they make available.
That sum can fluctuate, however, depending on current market price for the finished product. Usually, that does not present too much of a problem, but 2013 was different. The price Kenya received for its tea exports plunged by a third from around $3 at the start of the year to about $2 twelve months later. With this collapse, dividend payments also fell sharply. Some were a tenth less than they were last year while others lost closer to a quarter, and now the normally prosperous tea farmers are struggling. Daniel Mwangi, another farmer, echoes many in the region when he says simply, “The tea does not bring enough.”
[h=3]Falling demand[/h]The cause of the farmers' problems lies far to the north of the cool, tea-covered slopes of the Aberdares, in the heat of Cairo and the continuing fallout from the Arab Spring. In 2010, the last year before the uprising in Egypt, Kenya supplied the tea-obsessed UK with around half of its tea, but Egypt was the the single largest destination for Kenyan tea exports, buying nearly a fifth of what the factories around Nyeri produce. With the overthrow of President Mohammed Morsi in July 2013 and the ongoing campaign against the Muslim Brotherhood causing continued political instability, demand has plummeted and prices have gone with them.
“It's a supply and demand issue,” says Chai Kiarie, Field Services Manager at Gitugi Tea Factory. “We produced more tea this year, but we still made nearly $2 million less than we did last year. With these problems abroad, the demand just isn't there.”
As the ripples from Egypt's unrest spread down the Nile and into East Africa, the consequences for the individual farmers are dire. “Lately, most of our people have found themselves borrowing from the bank to make up the shortfall from their monthly payments,” explains Paul Kangari, Director of the Chinga Tea Factory, one of the largest in the region. “They are living from loan to loan. They expected the bonus to make up for it, but with the price of tea so unpredictable, there is a danger that the bank will take their farms and they will have nothing.”
The financial dangers facing tea farmers is exacerbated by Kenya's extortionate interest rates. Banks frequently charge upwards of fifteen percent for loans and without a decent dividend payment, farmers have little choice but to borrow more money and fall further into debt. Kangari is certain that the situation for farmers is perilous: “If a farmer borrows a lot of money he will not be able to repay.”
[h=3]Without a plan[/h]However it is not only the farmers who are in trouble. Each factory is supplied by thousands of farmers (the largest has over 7,000), but they in turn will each have a few labourers working for them. And even beyond those directly affected, much of the economy around Nyeri relies on the tea farmers and factories to bring money into the region, as the usual end-of-year bonanza shows. With the farmers in debt and their labourers having to take a pay cut, the bars and butcheries are emptier than usual and the stall-holders wear disappointed looks.
On a national scale, problems in Egypt have the potential to cause havoc in the wider economy too. Tea is Kenya's second largest export, behind other horticultural products, and along with tourism earns the country much of its foreign exchange revenues. If the price of tea does not recover, it is not only the people of Nyeri who will suffer.
It is not clear what will happen next. Some farmers are trying to spread their income activities, buying milk cows or trying to grow vegetables, but these strategies have problems of their own. “I am trying to diversify,” says Kamau, “but I don't know what to do. The only advice I can find is for farmers in England or America. I have been experimenting with greenhousing, but my first attempt was a failure and it can be very expensive.”
Those in serious debt lack even the means to buy a cow or vegetable seeds. And those who do have some money often do not have the expertise to cultivate anything other than tea, nor do they know where to go for advice. For now, most tea farmers can simply hope that, far away in Egypt, 2014 sees things begin to improve. If they do not, Kangari says, “The farmers don't have a plan.”
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More insight on economic situation cause your media is hiding the truth on your leading foreign exchange. As for gas, at the end of this year when the pipeline is completed an addition of over 400 MW of cheaper electricity will be put into generation! And so much construction underway around the gas plant from cement to petrochemical to fertilizer factories! Aside the Mtwara port expansion and the LNG itself! Are those not meaning anything to your knuckled head? And this all are aside the US$ 11 billion port expansion in Bagamaoyo plus over US$4.8 billion railway construction from Mtwara to Maganga and Mchuchuma coal and iron ore mines!

 
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5/4/2014

Tea farmers stare at decreased earnings

Tea farmers are facing the possibility of significantly lower prices that will translate into billions of shillings in bonus losses due to overproduction.
In Summary


  • High production costs may force companies to lay off workers and begin to use picking machines
  • Tea dealers, market analysts and major plantations estimate that this year’s bonus could be lower by up to Sh2.4 billion. In 2013, for instance, Kenyan farmers produced 432 million kilos of green tea compared to 373 million kilos in 2012.


Mazera NduryaTea farmers are facing the possibility of significantly lower prices that will translate into billions of shillings in bonus losses due to overproduction.
Tea dealers, market analysts and major plantations estimate that this year’s bonus could be lower by up to Sh2.4 billion. In 2013, for instance, Kenyan farmers produced 432 million kilos of green tea compared to 373 million kilos in 2012.
Nandi Tea Estates general manager Abdi Hussein says improved production impacted on traditional markets but says that the situation has been worsened by the one per cent tax levied in 2012, on the value of each kilo of tea exported, up from 46 cents previously.
“If you extend this levy to the buyer, it makes our tea much more expensive. In most cases, buyers set their prices so as to cushion themselves and to maintain their profit margins.
“Government needs to abolish the levy altogether as it disadvantages farmers or use the money they collect to cushion farmers by buying the tea from farmers at the right price and finding alternative markets for it,” he said.
But even as the tea companies grapple with the glut and the increased cost of production, they are meeting with representatives of the Kenya Plantation and Agricultural Workers Union to negotiate terms for workers’ pay increment.
But Mr Hussein contends that most major tea producers may be forced to take stricter measures, including laying off workers, by introducing tea-picking machines to cut costs.
Unlike a country like India that produces over one billion kilogrammes of tea annually and consumes most of it locally, Kenya sells over 90 per cent of its tea in international markets.
Small-scale tea farmers and marketing experts blame the Kenya Tea Development Agency for the glut, alleging the agency has hoarded tea for the past two years in hopes there would be a dry spell, during which the tea would fetch more. The same strategy worked to farmers advantage in the period 2011-2012 when there was a prolonged dry spell.
Tea farmers stare at decreased earnings - Business - nation.co.ke

And below is a looming hunger in Kenya of which is a blessing to Tanzanian farmers are waiting for your dollars to feed yourself out of starvation :wave:
29/4/2014

Maize imports to plug deficit of 18m bags: Report

Kenya will be forced to rely on maize imports beginning July due to an impending shortage of 18 million bags, a new study shows.
Workers loading imported maize at the Mombasa port in the past. Kenya will be forced to rely on maize imports beginning July due to an impending shortage of 18 million bags, a new study shows. Photo/FILE Nation Media Group
In Summary


  • Although the country is considered an agricultural economy, it is a net maize importer as it produces about 30 million bags of the grain yearly against consumption of 42 million bags.


Kenya will be forced to rely on maize imports beginning July due to an impending shortage of 18 million bags, a new study shows.
Conducted by the Ministry of Agriculture in February, the survey projected national maize availability as at July 2014 to be 16.6 million bags of 90 kilogramme capacity.
Based on the current consumption rate of 3.72 million bags of maize monthly, 18.6 million bags will be required to take the country to the next harvesting season that starts in October.
“The deficit is expected to be bridged through imports by the private sector from the EAC countries,” said the report, adding that the ongoing rains would increase available vegetables and potatoes in the market by next month.
According to the report, maize stocks in the country between March and July are projected at 19.1 million bags but poor post-harvest handling could reduce them by 10 per cent.
An estimated 1.9 million bags are set to go bad while another 383,000 bags will go into manufacturing feeds and other industrial use. Some 91,000 bags will be used for seed production.
Although the country is considered an agricultural economy, it is a net maize importer as it produces about 30 million bags of the grain yearly against consumption of 42 million bags.
Kenya relies on imports from East Africa, Malawi, and Zambia.
However, Malawi and Zambia have banned exports due to acute shortages that were occasioned by bad weather, according to the United Nation’s Food and Agriculture Organisation.
This means that Kenya will rely only on East Africa to get the grain.
Millers have, however, started cautioning on increase in prices of flour as they estimate that there will be a maize deficit of 10 million bags.
The Kenya Cereal Millers Association chairman, Mr Diamond Lalji, in a separate interview said that most flour makers were already running below capacity even though they were importing the grain.
Mr Lalji cautioned that the short rains of 2013/14 led to insufficient harvests and the imports that the government was banking on may not bridge the high demand in the local market

Maize imports to plug deficit of 18m bags: Report - Smart_Company - nation.co.ke
lawmaina78
 
For a person that abhors anything Kenyan, Geezer is spending too much time on Kenya. Why not take this opportunity to highlight the wonderful "things" going on in Tanzania.

Oh wait, the "sleeping giant" has been waking up for the last decade.
 
Geza Ulole said:
That Tanzania you talk about grew over 7% while your Kenya hardly reached 4%! And as far as i know Kenya has more people under poverty line > 54% compared to Tanzania around 37%
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Again, do not lie! 37% of Tanzanians live under Tanzania's National Poverty line, which is much lower than Kenya's National Poverty line. National Poverty lines are set by the countries, and they are usually different from the global poverty line which is now $1.25 per year.

82% of Tanzanian's live under the $1.25 compare to Kenya's 19% which is among the lowest on the continent. Remember Tanzania is a resource driven economy while Kenya is Africa's largest service based economy. Resource based economies make most of their GDP from minerals and not economic activities at the micro economic level. I am here to provide facts and figures and not to enjoin you in this silly discussion. Carry on with the facts.

Anyone can visit any of these links to get the correct information.

Wikipedia: List of countries by percentage of population living in poverty - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The World Bank's figures: Poverty & Equity Data | Sub-Saharan Africa | The World Bank
UN's figures: http://www.un.org/esa/socdev/rwss/docs/2010/chapter2.pdf
The AFDB: http://www.afdb.org/fileadmin/uploa...ntal_Indicators_on_African_Countries_2014.pdf




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Mekatilili said:
For a person that abhors anything Kenyan, Geezer is spending too much time on Kenya. Why not take this opportunity to highlight the wonderful "things" going on in Tanzania.

Oh wait, the "sleeping giant" has been waking up for the last decade.
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loser.....!
 
World Bank uses universal standards and Kenya numbers are here at 45.9% while Tanzania's are here at 28.2% end of story as even your economic growth was derived from data at the WB! only a fool quotes wikipedia
 
Geza Ulole said:
World Bank uses universal standards and Kenya numbers are here at 45.9% while Tanzania's are here at 28.2% end of story as even your economic growth was derived from data at the WB! only a fool quotes wikipedia
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That data is from 2005 and it is the based on Kenya's National poverty line.

I will repeat, the National poverty line is very different from the $1.25 index that is used globally. Kenya's national poverty line not the same as Tanzania's poverty line. Each country decides what its National poverty line is, and it is wholly based on the national economy and cost of living. Kenya has set its poverty line much higher than Tanzania due to differences in the sizes of the respective economies, living standards, HDI and make up of the economy (Tanzania is a resource based economy while Kenya is Africa's largest service based economy).

As a result, a member of Tanzania's middle class will not be considered middle class in Kenya, and will probably be part of the lower class. Similarly, a member of Kenya's lower upper class will probably not qualify for middle class status in America or even in South Africa.

Before you start posting pictures of Kibera, I apologize if the facts do not make you happy.

PS: Wikipedia is now considered to be among the most reliable sources of information with a thriving, self correcting community of specialists who constantly monitor and update the site. In most cases, wikipedia is more accurate and reliable than Encyclopedia Britannica.

 

Kamanda,

I see you are back from the 'war zone'...glad to have you. Apana potea namna hio morio.

By the way I highly doubt your assessment that the duo are doing great with all these skewed
appointments being bandied around. The resentment has become palpable so to speak.
 
Fellas,

this thread is about how Kenyans are feeling in terms of the direction the country is taking. How it
became a Tanzania vs Kenya affair, I have no idea. Ishakua ligi sasa...arghhh!
 
Ab-Titchaz said:
Fellas,

this thread is about how Kenyans are feeling in terms of the direction the country is taking. How it
became a Tanzania vs Kenya affair, I have no idea. Ishakua ligi sasa...arghhh!
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Now that the gloating and trolling geezer has been kept off by data and clarifications, the rest of us can go back to debating the topic of this thread.
Though I still have confidence in Uhuruto government as far as economy is concerned, but I find them failing miserably in the war against corruption, tribalism and terrorism. Cost of doing business has shot up due to terrorism as most business have been forced to put up extra security measures.
 
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