Geza Ulole
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pretty sure now people under poverty line is even higher >50% reason chang'aa dens are on the rise
pretty sure now people under poverty line is even higher >50% reason chang'aa dens are on the riseThat data is from 2005 and it is the based on Kenya's National poverty line.
I will repeat, the National poverty line is very different from the $1.25 index that is used globally. Kenya's national poverty line not the same as Tanzania's poverty line. Each country decides what its National poverty line is, and it is wholly based on the national economy and cost of living. Kenya has set its poverty line much higher than Tanzania due to differences in the sizes of the respective economies, living standards, HDI and make up of the economy (Tanzania is a resource based economy while Kenya is Africa's largest service based economy).
As a result, a member of Tanzania's middle class will not be considered middle class in Kenya, and will probably be part of the lower class. Similarly, a member of Kenya's lower upper class will probably not qualify for middle class status in America or even in South Africa.
Before you start posting pictures of Kibera, I apologize if the facts do not make you happy.
PS: Wikipedia is now considered to be among the most reliable sources of information with a thriving, self correcting community of specialists who constantly monitor and update the site. In most cases, wikipedia is more accurate and reliable than Encyclopedia Britannica.
Kamanda,
I see you are back from the 'war zone'...glad to have you. Apana potea namna hio morio.
By the way I highly doubt your assessment that the duo are doing great with all these skewed
appointments being bandied around. The resentment has become palpable so to speak.
Thanx for the welcome mkuu,
Just dropped by briefly; for a while at least. ###what do u mean by war zone bro, this place is a perfect description, hehe
I won't defend the duo in wrong doing but i give them credit where they deserve, they are trying despite all da odds.
Secondly, if UK and the man of guts disagree on their 50/50 deal, i lose no sleep. The rest of the republic are even lucky to get an appointment up there.
They however are running the economy with the sensitivity it deserves. more of a hands on approach than what rtd Pres. kibaki did.
For example, they wont allow run away inflation to take root. We had a relatively good one year, lets see what they'll do this year after "settling" as they say. I am optimistic.
Now that the gloating and trolling geezer has been kept off by data and clarifications, the rest of us can go back to debating the topic of this thread.
Though I still have confidence in Uhuruto government as far as economy is concerned, but I find them failing miserably in the war against corruption, tribalism and terrorism. Cost of doing business has shot up due to terrorism as most business have been forced to put up extra security measures.
Sixty per cent of Kenyans think the country is headed in the wrong direction, according to newly published results of an opinion poll.
Country headed in wrong direction, says new survey
Ipsos Synovate lead researcher Tom Wolf speaks when the research company released its opinion polls May 10 2014. Sixty per cent of Kenyans think the country is headed in the wrong direction, according to newly published results of an opinion poll
By MAZERA NDURYA
In Summary
- According to the survey, 26 per cent of Kenyans think the country is headed in the right direction while 13 per cent are not sure, or did not answer the question posed by the pollsters.
- The opinion poll by Ipsos Kenya shows that Kenyans were more concerned about their security, with the recent cases of terror attacks in Mombasa and Nairobi compounding their fears.
- As the debate on public expenditure continues, Kenyans have suggested ways that would see the government cut down on its recurrent spending, with the fight against corruption being given more prominence.
Sixty per cent of Kenyans think the country is headed in the wrong direction, according to newly published results of an opinion poll.
The survey by Ipsos Synovate also found that an overwhelming number of Kenyans were concerned with the increased state of insecurity in the country blamed on Al-Shabaab.
According to the survey, 26 per cent of Kenyans think the country is headed in the right direction while 13 per cent are not sure, or did not answer the question posed by the pollsters.
The highest proportion of those indicating that the country is headed in the wrong direction are from the Coast and Nyanza regions, both at 86 per cent.
About half in the Rift Valley think that the country is headed the wrong way while in Central Kenya the figure strands at 26 per cent, the pollsters said.
The opinion poll by Ipsos Kenya shows that Kenyans were more concerned about their security, with the recent cases of terror attacks in Mombasa and Nairobi compounding their fears.
An overwhelming 78 per cent of the respondents believe that the Jubilee Government was doing worse than the Grand Coalition government, citing corruption, rising public expenditure and unfulfilled election promises.
Thirty-eight per cent of Kenyans are concerned about the cost of living, with the next big worry being insecurity and unemployment.
GRIM REALITY
However polarised people were in the last general elections, differences among Kenyans have disappeared and they have almost similar views on issues affecting them, said Ipsos socio-political consultant Dr Tom Wolf.
Insecurity is now pressing down the high cost of living as Kenyans are divided on Jubilee performance, he said.
Dr Wolf said although there were grounds for optimism, there was nothing to celebrate about as most of the respondents believe the government was not headed in the right direction.
Regarding the recent effort to improve national security, especially with Operation Usalama Watch, Kenyans had mixed reactions, with more than one third of respondents saying it will both cause more terrorist attacks and a reduction in crime, polling at 39 and 37 percent.
Last weekend, several people lost their lives in twin blasts in Mombasa and Nairobi that targeted travellers. The pollsters believe the situation would have been different in terms of ratings if the survey had been conducted after the terror attacks.
The poll was conducted between April 29 and May 7.
The pollsters said that Kenyans generally painted a grim economic reality, with 59 per cent stating that their economic conditions had worsened since last year.
This proportion has changed a little over the previous two surveys conducted three and six months ago respectively.
In terms of political alignment, nearly three times as many respondents who identified with Jubilee report an improvement in such conditions compared with those who identify with Cord.
Slightly more than a quarter of households stated that they or someone in their homes ever goes to bed hungry, down from 36 per cent three months ago. The number is highest in Western, Nyanza and Coast.
WAGE BILL
As the debate on public expenditure continues, Kenyans have suggested ways that would see the government cut down on its recurrent spending, with the fight against corruption being given more prominence.
Most frequently mentioned is the need to reduce corruption, with 49 per cent supporting the move, followed by the cutting of salaries and allowances of some civil servants and elected officials, said Dr Wolf.
Dr Wolf said the survey showed Kenyans have concrete ideas on how public expenditure can be cut given that only six per cent of the respondents did not seem to know what was going on.
Both supporters of Jubilee and Cord seem to be reading from the same script as they are pretty united on the need to reduce public expenditure, he said.
The survey highlighted some change in the confidence ratings of leading officials and institutions where the main exception has been a fall in the ratings of confidence for the countrys two top leaders and the media.
According to the poll, ratings for the President and his Deputy have both fallen by 9 pc and 11 pc respectively, while confidence in the media has fallen by 12 pc.
Country headed in wrong direction, says new survey - News - nation.co.ke
CC Geza Ulole,
Ati 54% of Kenyans wanaishi katika hali ya uchochole? Where did u get that erroneous info from bro? It is somewhere between 38% and 44% Hii yako ni kutia tu chumvi ili kuscore points against your opponents.That Tanzania you talk about grew over 7% while your Kenya hardly reached 4%! And as far as i know Kenya has more people under poverty line > 54% compared to Tanzania around 37%
ex rebel,this is expression of opinion is excellent, i hope wakenya we can learn a thing or two in how you do this, your opinion is not targeting to dishonor or engage anyone in hateful exchanges.. naomba our KENYAN GREAT THINKERS can do the same.
kenya was not safer either, during the last regime, it can be safer if the security organs can know the 'nature of alshabaab'
the question should be asked
1.is it politicians handling alshabaab, or is there a copy of alshabaab using another names somewhere in kenya?
2 why is alshabaab well coordinated in throwing grenades in kenya and poorly organized in a lawless and less secure place like somalia/Mogadishu?
livefire where at thou? I have mentioned you because at one time in the forum you posted and handled a brief for ole lenku and such answers if not forthcoming now will be imminent in the coming days, if not let him be shown the door!
ex rebel,
JKUAT has some good hackers, UONtoo but i recommend JKUAT, GoK should just make an effort to hire these men and form an active Cyber Unit, the current one only Jeso anajua, i wonder why these lot has to go to Kiganjo/Embakasi......these are the second breed of policemen we need. Sitting behind comps scouring the Kenyan airwaves (telcos) & net for threats.
CCTV is for bank robbers, not terrorists, they help you but not much unless backed up with an effective cyber unit command.
1. it were better if more was invested on CCTV cameras and adopt good ideas like re-registration of ID more than surveillance and GSM cloning, because there is still satellite COMMS airwaves, The terror that we are facing is meant to create chaos and disruption of daily life within kenyans, rather than following the usual pattern of targeting visitors in hotels from outside, which strongly links to disgruntled politicians. of late terror suspects have come from other areas and not Somalia/mogadishu. the trend is worrying
2. doubts on the nyumba-kumi project have evaporated, after hoping the provincial administration be mobilized effectively but on second thoughts, it just came across to my mind that this might be the thing to avert the current problem we have as a country. my initial fear was it would be disastrous to vest power to a cross-sections of civilians.
4. arrested suspected terrorists be scrutinized and openly profiled and information regarding their links be made available to the public domain, this fight against terrorism is where the role of the public should no longer be underestimated. other ineffective mechanisms should be dropped and investment on them terminated to avoid corruption.
As much as i agree with u on generally everything on u draft, i disagree with u on the below
1. CCTV will act as a deterence to terror
They may help in west gate type of an environment but outside that, its a tall order.
Kenya doesn't have the financial muscle to install thrse gadgets on every corner of the expansive Nairobi city. The govt will deplete the entire defense budget on just one town, There's Mombasa too n its more n more angling towards thika.lol.
Also its worthy to note that CCTV cameras can only capture the person detonating the device, not prevent it, in most cases the terror suspect do conduct their homework well, that's why there's hardly an incident within the CBD.
It however is better than nothing but should not be the prime method of fighting terror. Only for ID purposes.
2. Nyumba kumi initiative
Terror networks in Kenya operate from a different doctrine from that of petty offenders.
Where as the common mugger/robber prefers isolated ranges, the terror suspects operate best in a swarm of people. In Gikomba and the numerous Bus blast, how will one identify the other? They receive customers/passengers/congregation members from all over. Its a tall Order
CONCLUSION: Nyumba kumi fights small fires, not Terror, mark you, these blasts don't target homes/residential places which is weird. Only churches, buses, rallies and market places being the latest victim bear the brunt.
This shows how terror is evolving and whoever is doing this does his homework. Who knows what town is next, Nakuru, Kisumu and eldoret are safe, but for how long?
Recommendations
1. RE~registration....(i concur with you)
2. RE~thinking our ways of policing, Kiganjo/Embakassi need to overhaul their curriculum, Kenya Police is no longer a baton & fire arm march, emerging threats makes it necessary to breed a whole new school of thought that deals with modern warfare, theft, terror and such. IT is a must, build a dedicated college for this.
3. Conduct continuos assessment of the forcess' performance and capabilities' ( failures and successes), Find gaps within the routines and supplement the inadequacies 24/7, 365.
Summary
Before Kenya police asks for civilian help, let their be a will from their top leadership to modernize. Responsibility of security is a state function, KPS need new gears and badly. How does a modern police force lack APCs? Reason they hate going to Turkana, Isiolo, Garrisa and Mandera......... The media just gives the towns blackout.
look at our OWN Recce, its an abuse calling them SWAT, they got kits & skills but no effective vehicles for a Swat equivalent stature. RAIN STARTED BEATING US LONG AGO. The terror menace is as a result of a rigid police mentality & administration that should cease letting out a half baked force, what's a force with no tools of trade? It's modernize and modernize for me. No short cut..
We already lost tourists to neighboring Tz, the force should modernize or else i see no future for our Tourism, its like a foreigner must be touched for Kenya to make a shift.
( rectify typos if any, mobile short comings)
Kabaridi,
First apologies for delayed responses, had papers to deal with, as per matters "security", i have given up, we are a clueless nation driven by political machinations/corruption and cremed up with tribal bigotry.
How do u explain an attack such as that at Mpeketoni? THERE PLENTY OF CAMPS AROUND!!!!!!!
I weep for the Kenyan lives lost, but think about it, what if Tourists were involved? After all, its perfectly within tourism active zones, why didn't the police act?
Some reports claim its political, started with west gate, came thru to Gikomba and Thika Road, went thru to the air port, #damn , one thing i will tell u for free bro, we are cooked, with current agencies incompetence we are simply fried.
All policemen reside in suburbs of Kenya, who will take care of the poor man at Gichagi level?
Before going da route of CCTV, moreso with areas such as Mpeketoni, make it a firm policy for every county to have 5000 police men minimum, irrespective of location.
And this forces to have camps in the said counties, (not outside) Mambo ya kupiga simu Nairobi and people are dying ni ujinga mtupu, the police then appear da following day and even then, people still die cause they brought three lorries to patrol a whole county.
there are over ten thousand policemen that have graduated, where have they gone? so those have graduated can only be deployed to two counties out of 45 counties still need some more.