The Infamous
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- May 11, 2009
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"... and lets create a man on our image, so he can stand for and monitor all the things we have made..." its the most thrilling statement in the bible showing about the completion of CREATION on what the bible and other religious book call, the creation of the earth. indeed it is,in one way or the other very convincing that the first man ever on the earth was created and lived in the Eden Garden which is believed to be somewhere in the middle east.
As one continues to enjoy and reading this creation story in the bible, we see how that small population of human race began to grow big. As the Adam and his wife Eve were blessed to have sons and daughter (though in their culture girls were less considered unless there was a significant role they do play). the most amazing thing in the story is when the woman was deceived by the snake, and the two sinned by disobeying the God and punishment was death to all of them without forgetting how man would live his life before he dies, and a woman pains in giving birth and so forth.
Apart from that the act of the older brother to kill his young brother brings something new to the world of creation, the death.. Adam witness the meaning of death, what happens when some dies and as a punishment God sent the older brother away from the small community but he MARKED the brother on his fore head so as PEOPLE from where he will be fled SHOULD NOT KILL HIM. this is the most interesting yet confusing part in the whole creation story as told by bible and other religious book.
I might be having low profiling about the facts of creation of the earth and the human race on the earth, if at all the creation was the first to all human race and the bible from the very beginning tells us how Adam and his family lived with exclusion of other societies. then here here were conclusions
- why should the older brother, as we are told in the bible, asked God to protect him so as people should not kill him as he was chased of the family?
- I do believe in CREATION and there was a creation on human but the creation didn't base on the entire human races on the earth surface, However the only human race created on the earth was the Israelite. and from the Israelite is where other human races should live and follow the example to.
- THE STORY OF EVOLUTION of earth still holds its truth as the world just appeared due to the explosion of hydrogen clouds though the theory does not answer at all if people do evolve and developed from the apes why it takes long for the now apes to turn into humans
- on the joint above, (2) it might be that the human race's ancestors were and are of differnt species as from the apes and that species will no longer be existed as it has evolved
- the story of creation and the evolution theory are sometimes intersect somehow although depends on how one approaches it.
- The whole story of CREATION based and reflects on culture of the jews and israelites ONLY because if otherwise, the creation story fails to explain as where does other human races like africans, indians , red indians and the far east Asians as chines and Japanese come from.
Blunders in the Koran...THE FLOOD
Chapters 6, 7 and 8 are devoted to the description of the Flood. In actual fact, there are two descriptions; they have not been placed side by side, but are distributed all the way through. Passages are interwoven to give the appearance of a coherent succession of varying episodes. In these three chapters there are, in reality, blatant contradictions; here again the explanation lies in the existence of two quite distinct sources: the Yahvist and Sacerdotal versions.
There is nothing more logical than to maintain this interpretation of Biblical errors which only implicates man himself. It is a great pity that the majority of commentators, both Jewish and Christian, do not hold with it.
The arguments they use nevertheless deserve careful attention.
Blunders in the Koran...
The Koran teaches that the world is flat. This doctrine is believed by Islamic scholars even today. The Bible revealed that the earth is round in Isaiah 40:22. "It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth".
It is also clear in the Qur'an that Muhammad and his Allah thought Moses lived at the time on Noah and that Jesus' mother Mary was Moses' and Aaron's sister.
If the Qur'an is a true miracle of God - why is it so filled with historical, scientific and other errors, including simple math? Wouldn't we expect an all-knowing Allah to be better student of history, science and math? Especially if he was getting his information straight from "God Himself"?
Muhammad had obviously heard some Bible stories, but he seems to have got them confused and mixed up when it came out in his prophetic utterances. It is quite apparent that the Qu'ran is simply the product of hearsay and imperfect editing from a plurality of traditions then known to Muhammad.
tafadhali hebu yaelezee hayo maneno mawili kama ulivyosema kwa kutumia lugha ya kingerezaKuna watu na binadamu
Bin adamu ni kizazi cha adamu
Watu mijitu ilukuepo hata kabla ya adam
It is common sense that most of us humans are rational people who follow logic. Christians like to claim Jesus is God, so let us test this, and let us put ourselves in the time of Jesus as a believing person. We will quote passages from the NT and you decide for yourselves if you would take Jesus as God if you witnessed these events.
Jesus CREATED: Qur'an 5:10 says:
"When Allah will say: O Jesus, son of Mary, ....when thou didst determine out of clay a thing like the form of a bird , then thou didst breathe into it and it became a bird .......
It is common sense that most of us humans are rational people who follow logic. Christians like to claim Jesus is God, so let us test this, and let us put ourselves in the time of Jesus as a believing person. We will quote passages from the NT and you decide for yourselves if you would take Jesus as God if you witnessed these events.
Let us now take a journey into the NT:
John 20: 16-18
[SUP]16 [/SUP]Jesus saith unto her, Mary. She turned herself, and saith unto him, Rabboni; which is to say, Master. [SUP]
17 [/SUP]Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
[SUP]18 [/SUP]Mary Magdalene came and told the disciples that she had seen the LORD, and that he had spoken these things unto her.
If someone told you they have a God, would you honestly believe that man is God?
Think logically, will you take the man as your God, or will you worship his God?
Logic tells you that you should be worshiping his God.
Mark 24: 32-36:
32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:
33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.
34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only
If a man told you he does not know the last hour, would you really believe this man could be God? Think logically.
Jhn 7:16 Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me
If someone told you the doctrine he teaches you is not his, but belongs to someone else, would you believe this person is God?
Think logically. It's like God saying the Bible is not from me, but from someone else. In fact that is what Christians say!
Hebrews 5:1-8:
1 For every high priest taken from among men is ordained for men in things pertaining to God, that he may offer both gifts and sacrifices for sins:
2 Who can have compassion on the ignorant, and on them that are out of the way; for that he himself also is compassed with infirmity.
3 And by reason hereof he ought, as for the people, so also for himself, to offer for sins.
4 And no man taketh this honour unto himself, but he that is called of God, as was Aaron.
5 So also Christ glorified not himself to be made an high priest; but he that said unto him, Thou art my Son, to day have I begotten thee.
6 As he saith also in another place, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.
7 Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and was heard in that he feared;
8 Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered
If you saw a man crying and praying non stop in fear, would you really take this man as God? Think logically please.
Matthew 6: 5-8:
And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him.
If a man told you to pray to someone else, not himself, would you believe this man is God? Think logically. A man is telling you pray to God, and teaching you how, he is not telling you to pray to him, so would you believe this man is God?
Acts 2:22:
[SUP]22 [/SUP]Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:
If you heard this statement would you honestly believe Jesus is God?
A MAN approved of God, obviously logic tells you this man is not God.
It also says that God gave him the miracles and wonders etc. So think logically, would you still take this man as God? If you are illogical you then will. It also doesn't take a brain genius to figure this out.
Acts 3:13:
[SUP]13 [/SUP]The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, hath glorified his Son Jesus; whom ye delivered up, and denied him in the presence of Pilate, when he was determined to let him go
Would you take this man as God?
Note how it starts off saying the God of Abraham, and Isaac, and of Jacob, and the God of our fathers, it then says this God has glorified his son who is Jesus. So as we can see, there is a distinction made, and that Jesus cannot possibly be the God of Abraham, Isaac, nor Jacob.
Think logically, the text makes it clear that the God of Abraham and of Isaac and of Jacob is NOT Jesus.
There is much more that could be shown. However so this is enough, now its up to you to use your brain or not.
unajua huku kukurupuka ni kubaya enheee hiyo mijitu ilitokea wao na evidence zake tafadhali sio kutubeba kwenye malboro mkuuuKuna watu na binadamu
Bin adamu ni kizazi cha adamu
Watu mijitu ilukuepo hata kabla ya adam