Evolution?



The Miracle of the Eye
Charles Darwin described the eye as one of the greatest challenges to his theory. How could he explain it? The eye, after all, is simply incompatible with evolution. "To suppose," he admitted, "that the eye with all its inimitable contrivances . . . could have been formed by natural selection, seems, I freely confess, absurd in the highest degree" (The Origin of Species, 1859, Masterpieces of Science Edition, 1958, p. 146).

Jesus said that "the lamp of the body is the eye" (Matthew 6:22).

The human eye possesses 130 million light-sensitive rods and cones that convert light into chemical impulses. These signals travel at a rate of a billion per second to the brain.

The essential problem for Darwinists is how so many intricate components could have independently evolved to work together perfectly when, if a single component didn't function perfectly, nothing would work at all.

Think about it. Partial transitional structures are no aid to a creature's survival and may even be a hindrance. If they are a hindrance, no further gradual development would occur because the creature would, according to advocates of natural selection, be less apt to survive than the other creatures around him. What good is half a wing or an eye without a retina? Consequently, either such structures as feathered wings must have appeared all at once, either by absurdly implausible massive mutations ("hopeful monsters," as scientists refer to such hypothetical creatures) or by creation.

"Now it is quite evident," says Francis Hitching, "that if the slightest thing goes wrong en route—if the cornea is fuzzy, or the pupil fails to dilate, or the lens becomes opaque, or the focusing goes wrong—then a recognizable image is not formed. The eye either functions as a whole, or not at all.

"So how did it come to evolve by slow, steady, infinitesimally small Darwinian improvements? Is it really possible that thousands upon thousands of lucky chance mutations happened coincidentally so that the lens and the retina, which cannot work without each other, evolved in synchrony? What survival value can there be in an eye that doesn't see?

"Small wonder that it troubled Darwin. 'To this day the eye makes me shudder,' [Darwin] wrote to his botanist friend Asa Gray in February, 1860" (The Neck of the Giraffe, 1982, p. 86).

Incredible as the eye is, consider that we have not one but two of them. This matched pair, coupled with an interpretive center in the brain, allows us to determine distances to the objects we see. Our eyes also have the ability to focus automatically by elongating or compressing themselves. They are also inset beneath a bony brow that, along with automatic shutters in the form of eyelids, provide protection for these intricate and delicate organs.

Darwin should have considered two passages in the Bible. "The hearing ear and the seeing eye, the Lord has made them both," wrote King Solomon (Proverbs 20:12). And Psalm 94:9 asks: "He who planted the ear, shall He not hear? He who formed the eye, shall He not see?"

The same can be said of the brain, nose, palate and dozens of other complex and highly developed organs in any human being or animal. It would take a quantum leap of faith to think all this just evolved. Yet that is commonly taught and accepted.

After reviewing the improbability of such organs arising in nature from an evolutionary process, Professor H.S. Lipson, a member of the British Institute of Physics, wrote in 1980: "We must go further than this and admit that the only acceptable explanation is creation. I know that this is anathema to physicists, as indeed it is to me, but we must not reject a theory that we do not like if the experimental evidence supports it" (Physics Bulletin, Vol. 30, p. 140).



 


The eye:
How could the eye, with its many intricate, interacting structures, have evolved through a random process.

So how did it come to evolve by slow, steady, infinitesimally small Darwinian improvements? Is it really possible that thousands upon thousands of lucky chance mutations happened coincidentally so that the lens and the retina, which cannot work without each other, evolved in synchrony? What survival value can there be in an eye that doesn't see?


Hii ni juisi ya pili pili. Jamaa wamekimbia kama utamaduni na jadi yao.
 

Mkuu MaxShimba,

Je umewahi kusoma kitabu kinaitwa LIFE HOW DID IT GET THERE? By evolution or by creation

Inaonekana yote unayotuelezea wanaJF umeyatoa kwenye hiki kitabu! Is it true?
 
Evolution does not exist.That is not only extremely poor science,but not science at all!If it was true, many baboons would have changed to humans.We haven't seen any.
 
Sasa ninyi wazungu mmekuja huku kutumalisa kiroho.Jamani tunaomba tushirikiane katika mambo mengine ya kiroho tuachieni.Mbona ninyi bao hamna tena?
 
Evolution does not exist.That is not only extremely poor science,but not science at all!If it was true, many baboons would have changed to humans.We haven't seen any.


Asante Mkuu, maana inaonekana hawo baboons walibadilika wakati mmoja tu. Hivi sasa wamegoma.
 
Evolution does not exist.That is not only extremely poor science,but not science at all!If it was true, many baboons would have changed to humans.We haven't seen any.


Mkuu asente kwa ilmu.
 


Darwin, mbona unakimbia hii thread? Jibu swali bana.

 
Mkuu MaxShimba,

Je umewahi kusoma kitabu kinaitwa LIFE HOW DID IT GET THERE? By evolution or by creation

Inaonekana yote unayotuelezea wanaJF umeyatoa kwenye hiki kitabu! Is it true?


Not yet, where can I get it.
 

Darwin, mbona unakimbia hii thread? Jibu swali bana.


Mjadala ni maswali na majibu, kama huna hata swali moja nililokuuliza kwasababu unachoandika hukijui, unaulizwa swali jingine una copy na ku paste kazi za wenzako bila kuzifanyia tathmini.


Kila post yangu unaikwepa kama unayekanyaga miba, najua nikwanini, kwasababu maswali ninayokupa huwezi kuyajibu mwenyewe mpaka utafute kwenye mtandao.

Kama nilivyosema mwanzo nina mashaka na elimu yako.
Na kama ni hio bible unayoitetea ufahamu wako ni zero
 

HUCHOKI KUKOPI?

The Miracle of the Eye


Unatia huruma!!!
 

I am taking you back, (10) ten weeks ago, I asked you and your fellow atheists to support what you believe. To date you and your fellows have failed to answer my question, despite repeated demands from me.

Prove to me that God does not exist?

Onyesha hizo degree zako unazojivunia. Najua utakimbia na huta jibu swali la mtu unaye dai hajaenda shule. Wewe kama msomi jibu swali.

PROVE TO ME THAT GOD DOES NOT EXIST? I NEED WATERTIGHT EXHIBITS AND MUST BE VERIFIABLE. NO ASSUMPTIONS AT ALL.
 

Swali la miracle of the eye limekushinda, kama unajeuri lete jibu tuone.
 

Max, lazima ukumbuke kuwa maatheist huwa wanaongozwa na jazba, hivi umesahau yule jamaa wa Queens? Hawana zaidi ya blah blah.

Darwin anadai hujawahi kuuliza swali, wakati swali lako limekaa zaidi ya miezi miwili bila ya kujibiwa, ndio itakuwa swali la "the eye?" Lazima akimbie. Anakuja na visababu vya eti hujasoma, eti unakopi, who cares, wewe darwin jibu swali kama ni Mwanume kweli. Achana na biashara kijiweni bana.

Hawa jamaa si lolote wala chochote zaidi ya kufuata akili za wafu kama ulivyo sema.

Darwin anasumbuliwa na ugonjwa wa penuriosus puto kama ulivyo sema kwenye thread ya The laws of thinking.
 
HUCHOKI KUKOPI?

The Miracle of the Eye


Unatia huruma!!!


Usifikirie wote ni wapumbavu kama wewe. Kama hujuwi na huna jibu kaa kimya.

Umekimbia maswali yaliyoulizwa, leo hii unakuja na gia za mitaani, nani unafikiri ana muda na utumbo wako wewe darwin? Huna chcochote wewe. Kama ni mtu unayejuwa hoja, jibu swali 'PROVE TO ME THAT GOD DOES NOT EXIST' Angalia, majibu yako, acha kukurupuka kijana.

If you believe something, you must be able to support what you believe. By the way, your belief that God does not exist is nefas/prevarication/iniuria.
 

Mtu aliyeshindwa huwa ni sawa na mpumbavu. Tell me, who on earth never copy?

Show me one thread from this JF which is not a copy?


MAX/SCHMIDT[SAME PERSON!!]

Bahati nzuri thread nyingi zinazoanzishwa JF zinaletwa kama source na watu wanazijadili.

UNAJUA MAANA YA KUJADILI?

KAMA UNA KOPI KAZI ZA WENZIO KUTOKA MWANZO MPAKA MWISHO ETI NDIO KUSEMA UMESHINDA BASI UMEKUWA BINGWA WA COPY NA PASTE.

CHUKUA UBINGWA UMESHINDAAAAAAA!!!!!! BUT.. BUT.. BUT.. YOU CANT CHANGE ME.
Why would you want to change Darwin? I don't want to change Max oops Schmidt. I could care less what you believe about Popobawa.

If what you copy and paste makes a solid case that what I believe is erroneous, and that what you believe is more likely to be true, I will gladly and publicly convert to theism. If you cannot make your case with me, do you agree to renounce your faith and to stop making these claims about supernatural gods to people?

The Bible is a mawenge mawenge of various statements and it is impossible to develop a systematic theology from it that is self-consistent. It is impossible to take into consideration every statement made by the Bible god and by Jesus and by the Apostles and by the "narrator" (if you will), and to make a system that has integrity. You must ignore or reinterpret at least some parts of the Bible if you want to be consistent.
 


Naona umeshindwa kujibu maswali na kubadilisha mwenendo, sasa unadai sijui kujadiliana.

Kuna swali dogo sana hapo juu, limekushinda, na huna ubavu wa kulijibu, na hutokuwa na ubavu wa kulijibu zaidi ya kuendelea kuandika pumba na blah blah zako zisizo na kichwa wala miguu.

Wewe kama unajeuri na unajuwa unacho amini jibu swali. Sina muda na watu wasio juwa na wala elewa wanacho amini ama fuata.

Kama nilivyo sema kwenye thread ya The Laws of Thinking, wewe darwin unaumwa ugonjwa wa penuriosus puto.
 
Not support materialist but am idealist.
Believe much on creation theory only.
 
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