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DNA wanazo mpaka za ndugu yake, Kwa kuwa hawakukupa taarifa walipoenda kumkamata ndio maana hawakutaka kudisclose all evidence for his kill, it is simple like that. Nyie endeleeni kuamini hivo maana najua iliwauma sana hamkupenda kila kukicha mnatafuta reasons za kujifarijina wew wambie wakuonyeshe picha yake baada ya kumuuwa au watoe DNA yake
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Wajinga ndio kwani wote ni "CIA system" ulitaka wasemeje....Tatizo waafrica ubishi jadi yenu.
The death of Osama bin Laden gave rise to various conspiracy theories, hoaxes, and rumors.[1] These include the ideas that bin Laden had been dead for years, or is still alive. Doubts about bin Laden's death were fueled by the U.S. military's supposed disposal of his body at sea,[2] the decision to not release any photographic or DNA evidence of bin Laden's death to the public,[3] the contradicting accounts of the incident (with the official story on the raid appearing to change or directly contradict previous assertions),[4] and the 25-minute blackout during the raid on bin Laden's compound during which a live feed from cameras mounted on the helmets of the U.S. special forces was cut off.[5][6]
On May 1, 2011, an image purporting to show a dead bin Laden was broadcast on Pakistani television. Though the story was picked up by much of the British press, as well the Associated Press, it was swiftly removed from websites after it was exposed as a fake on Twitter.[7][8]
On May 4, the Obama administration announced it would not release any images of Bin Laden's dead body.[9] The administration had considered releasing the photos to dispel rumors of a hoax, at the risks of perhaps prompting another attack by al Qaeda and of releasing very graphic images to people who might find them disturbing.[1][10] Several photos of the aftermath of the raid were given to Reuters by an anonymous Pakistani security official, but though all appeared to be authentic, they were taken after the U.S. forces had left and none of them included evidence regarding bin Laden's fate.[11][12]
On May 6, it was reported that an al-Qaeda website acknowledged bin Laden's death.[13] On May 11, Republican senator and Senate Armed Services Committee member Jim Inhofe stated he had viewed "gruesome" photographs of bin Laden's corpse, and later confirmed that the body "was him", adding, "He's history".[14]
On May 21, 2015, investigative journalist Seymour Hershpublished a report[15] claiming that Pakistan had kept bin Laden under house arrest since 2006, that the U.S. had learned of bin Laden's location through a Pakistani intelligence official and not through tracking a courier,[16][17][18] and that elements of the Pakistani military aided the U.S. in killing bin Laden.[16][19] The White House denied Hersh's report.[20][21]
Lack of physical evidenceEdit
The primary source of skepticism about the U.S. government's story has been its own refusal to provide any physical evidence to substantiate its claim. Though the Abbottabad raid has been described in great detail by U.S. officials, no physical evidence constituting actual proof of his death has been offered to the public, neither to journalists nor to independent third parties who have requested this information through the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA).[22] Numerous organizations filed FOIA requests seeking at least a partial release of photographs, videos, and/or DNA test results, including The Associated Press, Reuters, CBS News, Judicial Watch, Politico, Fox News, Citizens United, and NPR.[23] At the time of filing their FOIA request, The Associated Press said:
This information is important for the historical record. That's our view.
— Michael Oreskes, Senior Managing Editor, The Associated Press[22]
On April 26, 2012, a US federal judge decided in the case Judicial Watch v. U.S. Department of Defense, et al that the DoD did not need to release any evidence to the public. Judicial Watch's president responded to the ruling by saying:
The court got it terribly wrong. There is no provision under the Freedom of Information Act that allows documents to be kept secret because their release might offend our terrorist enemies. We will appeal.
— Tom Fitton, President, Judicial Watch[24]
Burial at seaEdit
Doubts about bin Laden's death were fueled by the U.S. military's disposal of his body at sea, though U.S. officials maintained that the burial was necessary because arrangements could not be made with any country to bury bin Laden within 24 hours, as dictated by Muslim practice.[1] The Muslim practice has not always been followed by the U.S. in the past. For example, the bodies of Uday Hussein and Qusay Hussein, sons of Saddam Hussein, were held for 11 days before being released for burial.[25] In that instance, however, several Iraqi cities were reluctant to grant a gravesite for Saddam Hussein's sons.[25]
The decision to bury bin Laden at sea was questioned by Islamic scholars and by some 9/11 victims and their relatives.[26][27] Professor Peter Romaniuk of John Jay College described the burial at sea as a way to forestall further questions. He stated: "Obviously they’re going to be under pressure to show a body or produce further evidence, but this was a way of taking that issue off the table."[2] A stated advantage of a burial at sea is that the site is not readily identified or accessed, thus preventing it from becoming a focus of attention or "terrorist shrine".[28]
The main issue with the 'Islamic' burial at sea is that there is no such thing as an Islamic burial at sea. It is not permissible in Islam to bury someone at sea.
Views of individuals and groupsEdit
See also: Reactions to the death of Osama bin Laden
In PakistanEdit
Senior Pakistani officials disseminated the theory that no firefight ever took place, and that whoever the U.S. forces captured, they executed him outside the compound, and took his body away on a helicopter.[29][30]
Hamid Gul, the former head of Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), stated in an interview with CNN that he believed bin Laden had died many years ago, and that the official death story given out by the American media was a hoax.[31] Furthermore, he thinks the American government knew about bin Laden's death for years, "They must have known that he had died some years ago so they were waiting. They were keeping this story on the ice and they were looking for an appropriate moment and it couldn't be a better moment because President Obama had to fight off his first salvo in his next year's election as he runs for the presidential and for the White House and I think it is a very appropriate time to come out, bring this out of the closet."[31]
Yet another scenario was reported in an article in the Urdu newspaper Ausaf, which quoted military sources as saying, "Bin Laden has been killed somewhere else. But since the US intends to extend the Afghan war into Pakistan, and accuse Pakistan, and obtain a permit for its military's entry into the country, it has devised the [assassination] scenario."[32]
Bashir Qureshi, who lives close to the compound where bin Laden was shot and whose windows were blown out in the raid, was dismissive. "Nobody believes it. We've never seen any Arabs around here, he was not here."[33]
In IranEdit
A number of Iranians said they believed that bin Laden was working with the U.S. during the entire war on terror. Ismail Kosari, an Iranian MP, said that bin Laden "was just a puppet controlled by the Zionist regime in order to present a violent image of Islam after the September 11 attacks", and that his death "reflects the passing of a temporary US pawn, and symbolizes the end of one era and the beginning of another in American policy in the region".[34] Another MP, Javad Jahangirzadeh, said he believed that it was the U.S. that had carried out the terrorist attacks, and bin Laden was the main source of help. He stated, "The West has been very pleased with bin Laden's operations in recent years. Now the West was forced to kill him in order to prevent a possible leak of information he had, information more precious than gold."[34] Iranian Intelligence Minister Heydar Moslehi claimed to have "credible information that Bin Laden died some time ago of a disease."[35]
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said "I have exact information that bin Laden was held by the American military for sometime... until the day they killed him he was a prisoner held by them," in a live interview on Iranian state television.[36]
In TurkeyEdit
Berkan Yashar, a Turkish politician, stated that bin Laden died of natural causes on June 26, 2006 and was buried. The Americans, he claims, dug out bin Laden's body and displayed it, falsely telling the world that he was killed in an assault.[37]
Seymour HershEdit
On May 21, 2015, Pulitzer prize winning investigative journalist Seymour Hershpublished a 10,000 word report (later a book -- The Killing of Osama bin Laden) challenging most aspects of the official account of Osama's death.[15][38] Among other things, the report claims that the Pakistani Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) had kept bin Laden under house arrest at Abbottabad since 2006, and that when the US discovered this Pakistani Army chief Pervez Kayani and ISI director Ahmad Shuja Pasha helped the U.S. in killing, not capturing bin Laden.[16][19] Hersh's U.S. and Pakistani intelligence sources stated that the U.S. had learned of bin Laden's location through a "walk-in", a former ISI officer who came to the US embassy in Islamabad in 2010[39] seeking the $25 million reward, and not through tracking a courier. This claim had been previously reported by R.J. Hillhouse and was confirmed afterwards by NBC news.[16][17][18] The White House denied Hersh's report.[20][21]
Pakistani journalist Ahmed Rashid in the New York Review of Books finds the cooperation between the CIA and ISI that Hersh describes "inconceivable", in part because 2011 was "the worst year in US-Pakistan relations since the late 1980s" and "hatred and mistrust" between the CIA and ISI was "acute"—something Hersh does not mention in his article/book.[39] Among the incidents that occurred in Pakistan in the months before the killing of bin Laden were the killing of two Pakistanis by Raymond Davis a CIA contractor; numerous death threats against the Islamabad CIA station chief after his name was leaked (purportedly by the ISI); the cessation of the issuing of visas for US officials, following which the entire US consulate in Lahore was shut down and moved to Islamabad over concerns about security;[39] increased US anger over the refusal of Pakistan to exert pressure on the Taliban and Haqqani group; the death of 40 Pakistanis including many civilians and later 24 Pakistani soldiers from US drone strikes, the cut off of US supplies to Afghanistan by Pakistan.[39] Further adding to the implausibility of Hersh's theory, according to Rashid, is the unlikeliness that either the US would have "calmly accepted" Pakistan's hiding/protecting bin Laden, or that the dozens of Pakistani military, police, fire and bureaucrats -- whose silence/complicity would have been required for a successful conspiracy -- would have cooperated with the American incursion. While there was little or no disapproval by the Pakistan public over Bin Laden's long residency in Pakistan, the US attack on the compound of bin Laden was so unpopular that just the failure of the military to detect and go after the US helicopters ignited outrage among the media, the public and the civilian government.[39]
Andrew Anthony in The Guardian called Hersh’s theories "forceful but unconvincing".[40]Zach Dorfman in the Los Angeles Times called Hersh's judgment "mixed, at best". (Rashid, Anthony, and Dorfman were also skeptical of another theory expounded in Hersh's book—that the Ghouta chemical attack that killed hundreds of Syrian civilians where instigated not by the Syrian government, but by rebels aided by Turkey working as agents provocateurs, blaming the Syrian government in hopes of forcing the Obama administration to enter the war against the government.[41])
InternetEdit
Facebook groups formed discussing a rumor, in what has been dubbed the "death hoax".[33][42] Some blogs theorised that the raid and killing were faked, in a conspiracy to attempt to deflect questions about President Obama's citizenship, or to boost Obama's approval ratings and guarantee him popularity during the 2012 U.S. presidential election.[42]
OthersEdit
In 2002, the FBI's top counter-terrorism official, Dale Watson, said, "I personally think he [Osama bin Laden] is probably not with us anymore."[43]Anti-war activist Cindy Sheehan stated "If you believe the newest death of OBL, you’re stupid".[44][45] Sheehan further stated on her Facebook page, "The only proof of [bin Laden] being dead again that we were offered was Obama telling us that there was a DNA match between the man killed by the Navy SEALs and OBL. Even if it is possible to get DNA done so quickly, and the regime did have bin Laden DNA lying around a lab somewhere – where is the empirical proof?"[46]
On Russia Today, radio host Alex Jones claimed that bin Laden had been dead for nearly ten years, and that his body had been kept in liquid nitrogen so that it can be used as a propaganda tool at a future politically expedient time. In 2002, he claimed that an anonymous White House source had told him that bin Laden "is frozen, literally frozen and that he would be rolled out in the future at some date".[47] In a separate interview in 2002, Steve Pieczenik told Jones that bin Laden had been dead for months.[48] Pieczenik also later suggested that bin Laden had died from complications of Marfan Syndrome in 2002.[49] Jones also pointed to similar comments made by former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright in 2003, "Yes we have been told by intelligence that they’ve got him, Bush may roll him out but because they exposed that at the election they didn’t do it".[47] Jones further voiced doubts about the official story of bin Laden's death on his radio show telling his listeners, "My friends, this is a complete and total hoax."[46]
The Iranian network Press TV interviewed Webster Tarpley and Stephen Lendman, who both doubted the official story of bin Laden's death. Tarpley said he believed bin Laden had been dead for a long time. He also claimed that the public was deceived by a staged announcement.[50] Both Tarpley and Lendman suggested that Obama's announcement was also an excuse to involve the United States in wars with Pakistan and Middle Eastern nations.[50]
Andrew Napolitano, the host of the Fox Business program Freedom Watch, said bin Laden's death could not be verified and insinuated that Obama was using the death of bin Laden to save his "lousy presidency."[51] On the Fox News morning show Fox & Friends, co-host Steve Doocy challenged the DNA evidence confirming bin Laden's death, saying that the report was "just numbers on a piece of paper."[52] An article in Mediaite criticized Napolitano's remarks, opining that "such conspiracy talk is ultimately beneath Napolitano and his often enlightened discussions."[53]
Canadian deputy Leader of the Opposition and MP, Thomas Mulcair, stated in an interview with CBC Television that "I don't think from what I've heard that those pictures [of bin Laden's body] exist".[54] His remarks were picked up by dozens of U.S. media outlets,[55] and criticized by various Canadian politicians.[55][56][57][58]
An official statement from the Taliban stated that the lack of photos or video footage is suspicious, as their own sources close to bin Laden had not confirmed or denied his death, and that "when the Americans killed Mullah Dadullah (Taliban’s chief military commander) they publicly showed the footage".[59]
Related conspiracy theoriesEdit
Numerous other conspiracy theories relating to bin Laden's death that were discussed include:
[emoji828]That bin Laden had been killed a number of years prior in the Tora Bora mountains, but that this information had been kept secret to encourage continued support for the war on terror.[45][60]
[emoji828]That bin Laden died much earlier than reported, and the announcement of bin Laden's death was delayed, so as not to clash with the festivities surrounding the wedding of Prince William and Catherine Middleton.[60]
[emoji828]That the announcement of bin Laden's death was timed to conflict with and take Donald Trump's Celebrity Apprentice off the air, to punish Trump for publicly questioning the authenticity of Barack Obama's birth certificate.[32]
[emoji828]That it is suspicious that bin Laden's death occurred almost exactly eight years after George W. Bush's declaration of "mission accomplished" in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Na hao wote ni wajinga
Video yenywe mbona Ina dakika 2 afu story ya the bold ni ndefu na haiakisi ukweli wako ktk hizo dakika 2 za video yako.Nilidhani utakuwa mwerevu na kutulia kumbe mshari,
Punguza murkari ndugu, makala yako ni tafsiri ya documentry ya FBI files inayosimuliwa na Martine,
Kumbe unakopi vitu bila kujua wamiliki?
Nenda youtube video nzima ipo neno kwa neno....
Hoja yangu nikuwa ukitafsiri kitu cha mtu usijitwalie utukufu....
DB Cooper ni makala niliyotafsiri kama wewe ulivyotafsi lakini mimi nimemtaja msimulizi na kuweka video nzima, sijajitwalia kama ufanyavyo wewe,
Usilete ligi usije kudharirika nikileta video za db na hii hapa kijana...
Mwerevu hunyamaza ila mjinga hukomaza shingo....
Huyo ndie DB Cooper na msimulizi wake ambaye hukumtaja na badala yake ukajipa utukufu
Hill ni kweli mkuu, hivi vimisaada vya ughaibuni vina jambo.Ndo maana huwa nakuwaga na wasi wasi sana na chanjo toka western world mara nyingi huambatana na agenda fulani.
Yaani weupe hawatupendi kweli sijui why.Always wanawaza kutumaliza tuu mara ebola mara ngoma .Hill ni kweli mkuu, hivi vimisaada vya ughaibuni vina jambo.
Kuna documentary moja inaelezea behind the scene kilichokua kinarndelea Liberia kwny mlipuko wa Ebola.
Itabidi nifanye utaratibu nimsukumie the bold aiweke vizuri kisha ailete hapa wanajamvi tupate ubuyu.
Mm sio msimuliaji mzuri in nature