NairobiWalker
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What is 48.9% of 40?
What is 48.9% of 40?
Those aircrafts are owned by KLM and Air France! Only leased to KQ!Shirika la ndege la Kenya (Kenya Airways) linamiliki takriban ndege 40 ambazo ni za aina tofauti kama ifuatavyo:
Boeing 737 - 14 (serves primarily African routes)
Boeing 777 - 3 (All phased out after making losses. The 777 is an enormous plane)
Boeing 787 - 8 (primarily for international routes. London, Paris, New York etc)
Embraer 190AR - 15
JUMLA - 40
Things to note: Kenya Airways fleet is almost exclusively Boeing. This fleet commonality is a plus for them. Other regional carriers have opted to go for Airbus planes (Rwandair, Uganda Airlines and ATCL has two Airbus A220s on order)
No new orders that I could come across.
For comparison purposes, ATCL's fleet is 2 Boeing 787s, 3 Bombardier Dash Q-400s and 2 Airbus A220s. Jumla 7.
Rwandair has 2 Airbus A330s, 6 Boeing 737s and 4 Bombardiers. Jumla 12.
Very nice and critical replyTungeamua mahela yetu wenyewe tunayojengea reli tununue madege tungejaza kama kandambili kwenye vibaraza vya wahindi tumeonesha tu miaka 3 madege 7 na tukiamua kwa awamu hii ikiongeza mitano mingine. mahela mengine tunaweza wapa. hao majirani wenye ndege 40 wakamlipe. mchina kabla hajajimilikisha rasmi mashirika yake kwa madeni yanayomkabili.
Let start here.Parastatals are owned by the government but when they lease from the government, they pay just like anyone else. You're too stupid to understand though. The government is just a shareholder like any other shareholder. BTW, as of now, KQ owns ALL of her planes. The last plane we leased was a Boeing 747 cargo plane below from KLM which is no longer part of the fleet. Remember KQ has 40 planes, not 4 like ATCL.
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So where in that post do I say those planes belong to the GOK?Let start here.
1. Give us the proof that hizo ndege belong to GoK na siyo France and KLM.
Sasa tunakubaliana hizi ndege siyo za GoK right!?So where in that post do I say those planes belong to the GOK?
Acha kukwepa swali. Show me where I said those planes belong to GOK. Si ulitaka majibu? Remember nikimaliza uwe ready kujibu yangu.Sasa tunakubaliana hizi ndege siyo za GoK right!?
Tell me hizo ndege ni za nani!?
Airbus zinakuja mwezi huu au ujao maana nilizicheki ziko kwenye finishing line.kifupi, jamaa kachukua mpaka ndege ambazo ziko kwenye order kaongezea.
Unataka nikuwekee quote yako umesahau!?Acha kukwepa swali. Show me where I said those planes belong to GOK. Si ulitaka majibu? Remember nikimaliza uwe ready kujibu yangu.
Tumemalizana na number 1. You're a liar. You lied that I claimed those planes belong to GOK. Can we agree with that first before we move to the next?Unataka nikuwekee quote yako umesahau!?
Je, unakubaliana na mimi kuwa ndege belongs to France and KLM!?
Which lie!? Why are jumping to the conclusion!!?Tumemalizana na number 1. You're a liar. You lied that I claimed those planes belong to GOK. Can we agree with that first before we move to the next?
You lied that I claimed those planes belong to GoK. Can we agree on that?Which lie!? Why are jumping to the conclusion!!?
I command you to say yes or no, is those planes do not belong to GoK!?
On a serious note though, wazungu wengi wanatumia export credit facilities kuwezesha mashirika ya ndege ya Afrika kununua ndege toka kwao. Case in point is Ethiopian which is heavily supported by the Export-Import Bank of the United States ili waweze kununua ndege za Boeing.
Does KQ follow this model pia? I don't think they have the muscle to actually buy 40 planes!
1. KQ didn't buy their planes at once did they? They didn't wake up one day and bought their 40 planes did they?
2. It's a pity that all this "ndege za mzungu" mantra stems from the fact that someone can't believe KQ is capable of buying those planes rather than actual facts.
3. What you speak of is a loan and as far as I know, when you take a loan to buy something, that thing belongs to you not to somebody who gave you the loan.
4. Don't you find it interesting Ethiopian Airline that you say is supported by American Exim Bank is the darling and poster child of African Airline success on this forum yet KQ is bashed as a mzungu airline just from the notion that mzungu banks COULD be loaning it money?
5. To answer your question, yeah, KQ did take loans but none from the white masters your friends keep pushing down our throats without any proof. KQ took loans from the GOK, Equity bank (which is Kenyan) Chase Bank (Kenyan) Jamii Bora Bank (Kenyan) Coop Bank (Kenyan) KCB (Kenyan) National Bank (Kenyan) NIC Bank (Kenyan) and Diamond Trust Bank (Kenyan). The bank loans were defaulted and instead Kenya Airways offered the banks 38.1% shares in the Airline - that's why when you check KQ ownership you realize 38.1% of the shares are owned by a consortium of banks known as KQ Lenders Company. But since your friends are always negative towards Kenya yet lack any knowledge about Kenya, they would rather imagine KLM and Air France bought those planes instead of the truth which is ridiculous considering KLM-Air France owns only 7.8% of the airline.