No way hapa Tanzania tuKausha blaza and let us celebrate as a whole hata mara moja.
ur very bright...i know it seems like ni kuuma na kupuliza....ila nataka uelewe fast growth does not signify anything good...in fact it signifies that a country was not doing what it should have been doing for a very long time..for instance, out of all the continents, Africa and South Asia are the fastest growing....Europe, Australia and North America are the slowest...why?..this fast growth u are experiencing signifies a country that has been sleeping for a long time...look at Ethiopia....the country should be very far and not close to Kenya $78B vs $75B....(and thats why it has 8% growth because imeamka juzi tu)...look at the more developed nations in the world...none of them is growing fast since they did that centuries ago....some of them are even contracting..SA economy grew 0.4% only....ina maana msiwe waku ringa ringa na hili jambo la double digit growth..there is nothing to be proud of...instead mnafaa mjiulize kwani mlikua mkifanya nini miaka ya hapo awali mpaka uchumi unakua kwa haraka namna hii when its already 2017...if this growth was 50 years ago, then it would have mattered but this is 2017 bana....too late..other nations are too far ahead...Ila nina swali India ndo nani hapa East Africa kati ya Tanzania na Kenya! Maana una uma na kupuliza...😵
natingiza kichwa tu...kwa hiyo lazma iwe kenya inaongoza ndio tujipige vifua na kutusi watz?....No way hapa Tanzania tu
Unafikiri kama kenya ingeongoza wangesema East Africa???
You are potential thieves and snitch of all the time,nobody can be inlove with you guys untill you change,and the fact is the gap between poor and rich in ur country is widening b'se fews are benefiting! !that grandiose thing is what irritates us mostly, hata ivyo we interact closely than any other nation,but know your position!!Ndugu, lakini historia iko wazi kuonyesha uchokozi ulianzishwa na nani.
Baba wenyu wa kwanza wa taifa kika mara alikuwa akikosoa Kenya, mfumo wake wa kiuchumi, kwamba wanaungana na imperialists. Viombo vyenyu vya habari vilikuwa vikisema tu mambo mabaya kuhusu Kenya.
Nyerere akatuita "manyang'u", wakenya wakatulia tu. Ile siku aliliitaja jamii ya Kenya kama " dog eat dog society" akapata jibu nzito, ya kwamba Tanzania yake ni " dog eat nothing society"! Na hilo lilimuuma kweli!
Nyerere ndiye alifunga mipaka yake na Kenya, kuwafurusha wakenya waliokuwa wakiishi Tanzania......
Hata kama alikuwa hapendi sera za Kenya, hiyo chuki yote ilikuwa ya nini?
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Sasa hapa Jf, mara yangu ya kwanza kulijua, niliwakuta watz wakitukejeli baada ya kupatwa na janga la kushambuliwa na maghaidi, ambapo watu karibu 70 waliaga.
Nikaona tena, kila jambo nzuri kuhusu Kenya likiwekwa hapa, watamzania hufululiza kuziponda.
Kwa hivyo, wenye roho chafu kati ya wakenya na watz ni nani?
sawa mkuu tulia....tumeskia...usipandwe na mori sababu mambo yanaeza yakachafuka sasa hivi...kwa hiyo tuliaYou are potential thieves and snitch of all the time,nobody can be inlove with you guys untill you change,and the fact is the gap between poor and rich in ur country is widening b'se fews are benefiting! !that grandiose thing is what irritates us mostly, hata ivyo we interact closely than any other nation,but know your position!!
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Naona wewe ndio uliebadilika leo ila your true color is open and wider.natingiza kichwa tu...kwa hiyo lazma iwe kenya inaongoza ndio tujipige vifua na kutusi watz?....
ndio nimebadilika...nawe badilika pia...this fighting thing will not take you or me anywhere...i leanrt that from Quora and Nairaland...wale jamaa wa Quora ni wangwana sana...utaona mmarekani na muingereza wakijadili taratibu bila la hili la team A vs team B..mara we are better..mara we are more developed...petty arguments...heri ingekua Nigeria na South Africa kwani hata wakitusiana wanaongoza bara la Afrika...ila sisi tupo sijui namba nane na tisa ila tunakorogana hapa JF kila uchao...😀😀😀😀yaani tunachekesha kweliNaona wewe ndio uliebadilika leo ila your true color is open and wider.
We are potential thieves and u are potential witches!You are potential thieves and snitch of all the time,nobody can be inlove with you guys untill you change,and the fact is the gap between poor and rich in ur country is widening b'se fews are benefiting! !that grandiose thing is what irritates us mostly, hata ivyo we interact closely than any other nation,but know your position!!
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Tanzanians always are polite na nadhani hii kasumba mliianzisha nyiendio nimebadilika...nawe badilika pia...this fighting thing will not take you or me anywhere...i leanrt that from Quora and Nairaland...wale jamaa wa Quora ni wangwana sana...utaona mmarekani na muingereza wakijadili taratibu bila la hili la team A vs team B..mara we are better..mara we are more developed...petty arguments...heri ingekua Nigeria na South Africa kwani hata wakitusiana wanaongoza bara la Afrika...ila sisi tupo sijui namba nane na tisa ila tunakorogana hapa JF kila uchao...😀😀😀😀yaani tunachekesha kweli
Bamako Mali kukoje nduguUmewahi fika Bamako Mali.
wewe kwenda zako Kenya hii hii yenye njaa ndo iwe ya kujifananisha na America! wacha upumbavu! hamna watu wajinga kama nyie mngekuwa na uchumi zaidi ya wa SA that had sanctions the way u were the darling of the West all along. Tanzania that u compare urself with has a reason why it is lagging behind cause it sidelined with socialism that with exception of China failed in many places. uache ujinga kujifananisha na Marekani. learn to be food sufficient kwanza. BTW ur GDP is not $70 bln, keep being fed cooked data by Jubilee govt.ur very bright...i know it seems like ni kuuma na kupuliza....ila nataka uelewe fast growth does not signify anything good...in fact it signifies that a country was not doing what it should have been doing for a very long time..for instance, out of all the continents, Africa and South Asia are the fastest growing....Europe, Australia and North America are the slowest...why?..this fast growth u are experiencing signifies a country that has been sleeping for a long time...look at Ethiopia....the country should be very far and not close to Kenya $78B vs $75B....(and thats why it has 8% growth because imeamka juzi tu)...look at the more developed nations in the world...none of them is growing fast since they did that centuries ago....some of them are even contracting..SA economy grew 0.4% only....ina maana msiwe waku ringa ringa na hili jambo la double digit growth..there is nothing to be proud of...instead mnafaa mjiulize kwani mlikua mkifanya nini miaka ya hapo awali mpaka uchumi unakua kwa haraka namna hii when its already 2017...if this growth was 50 years ago, then it would have mattered but this is 2017 bana....too late..other nations are too far ahead...
Unaweza ku-support hizo claims kwa kuonyesha maandiko au videos za Nyerere kusema mambo mabaya kuhusu Kenya?Ndugu, lakini historia iko wazi kuonyesha uchokozi ulianzishwa na nani.
Baba wenyu wa kwanza wa taifa kika mara alikuwa akikosoa Kenya, mfumo wake wa kiuchumi, kwamba wanaungana na imperialists. Viombo vyenyu vya habari vilikuwa vikisema tu mambo mabaya kuhusu Kenya.
Nyerere akatuita "manyang'u", wakenya wakatulia tu. Ile siku aliliitaja jamii ya Kenya kama " dog eat dog society" akapata jibu nzito, ya kwamba Tanzania yake ni " dog eat nothing society"! Na hilo lilimuuma kweli!
Nyerere ndiye alifunga mipaka yake na Kenya, kuwafurusha wakenya waliokuwa wakiishi Tanzania......
Hata kama alikuwa hapendi sera za Kenya, hiyo chuki yote ilikuwa ya nini?
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Sasa hapa Jf, mara yangu ya kwanza kulijua, niliwakuta watz wakitukejeli baada ya kupatwa na janga la kushambuliwa na maghaidi, ambapo watu karibu 70 waliaga.
Nikaona tena, kila jambo nzuri kuhusu Kenya likiwekwa hapa, watamzania hufululiza kuziponda.
Kwa hivyo, wenye roho chafu kati ya wakenya na watz ni nani?
umoja ni nguvu bro!Hivi bado kuna watu wanatamani East Africa iwe nchi moja?
I dont need to support my claim.that Nyerere and the Tanzanian media stated very demeaning things about Kenya, and that the Tanzanian govt harassed the Kenyans living in Tanzania in tge 70s.Unaweza ku-support hizo claims kwa kuonyesha maandiko au videos za Nyerere kusema mambo mabaya kuhusu Kenya?
Na kuhusu Westgate, nakumbuka sana idadi ya wanajamii waliotoa salaam zao za rambirambi na kuwatakia wakenya unafuu katika jambo lile. Kweli watu wachache ndiyo wa-characterize behavior ya watanzania wote?
That's wrong bruh!
Mm natamani tuzidi kushindana nimegundua serikali zetu zinaguswa na ushindani wa Kenya vs tz ndiyo wanajitaidi kuleta maendeleo mfano tz BRT iliamasisha serikali ya Kenya kuwaza la kufanya na hata serikali ya tz ikisikia Kenya inafanya vizuri mfano sgr ndo nasisi tukaona yetu iwe ya umeme kabisa ila kama tungeandamana kudai maendelea viongozi wetu wamekua wagumu kama nini kutusikiliza wananchi wa eactulia ndugu...hata economy ya India ina grow haraka kuliko United states of A....hii isikupe mihemko...relax...anyway the point is East Africa vs the rest of africa...Big up Tz, Big up Kenya, Big up all other east african states...together as one!!
true that! this Kenya vs Tz thing is getting old...
If Nyerere broke the first EAC why were all assets in Kenyan side when the union was dissolved n why did it take years to be returned under mediation of president Mugabe? Mind u some assets were dustributed among partner states latest 1986! And why do you think we should open our borders to give u access to our strategic destinations? I thought u were smart but today I have learnt ur mind set young man. ..I dont need to support my claim.that Nyerere and the Tanzanian media stated very demeaning things about Kenya, and that the Tanzanian govt harassed the Kenyans living in Tanzania in tge 70s.
And I was not referring the Westgate attack, although there were indeed a couple of insensitive comments in that thread as well from some Tanzanians. I was talking about the Mpeketoni attack, that was the day I stumbled upon the Jamii Forums, whilst searching for more info about the attack.
I was utterly gobsmacked by all the derisive comments there.
Very smart of you. Ushindani ni kitu kizuri.Mm natamani tuzidi kushindana nimegundua serikali zetu zinaguswa na ushindani wa Kenya vs tz ndiyo wanajitaidi kuleta maendeleo mfano tz BRT iliamasisha serikali ya Kenya kuwaza la kufanya na hata serikali ya tz ikisikia Kenya inafanya vizuri mfano sgr ndo nasisi tukaona yetu iwe ya umeme kabisa ila kama tungeandamana kudai maendelea viongozi wetu wamekua wagumu kama nini kutusikiliza wananchi wa eac
I was honestly not aware that Mugabe ever got involved in the EAC1 dispute. I have searched for that everywhere, even in the google journals that he mediated for an amicable assets dispute resolution btwn the former EAC states.If Nyerere broke the first EAC why were all assets in Kenyan side when the union was dissolved n why did it take years to be returned under mediation of president Mugabe? Mind u some assets were dustributed among partner states latest 1986! And why do you think we should open our borders to give u access to our strategic destinations? I thought u were smart but today I have learnt ur mind set young man. ..
nime nyamaza kimya.wewe kwenda zako Kenya hii hii yenye njaa ndo iwe ya kujifananisha na America! wacha upumbavu! hamna watu wajinga kama nyie mngekuwa na uchumi zaidi ya wa SA that had sanctions the way u were the darling of the West all along. Tanzania that u compare urself with has a reason why it is lagging behind cause it sidelined with socialism that with exception of China failed in many places. uache ujinga kujifananisha na Marekani. learn to be food sufficient kwanza. BTW ur GDP is not $70 bln, keep being fed cooked data by Jubilee govt.