Nyie ni LDC so tulia hadi miaka 50 ndo mjitoe humo,category ya walotupwaYani wamefika tu kenya kwa afrika nzima na wameamua kua kenya ni heaven in earth! Kweli wanawafanya wakenya mafala. Sasa na wakenya wenyewe mnaikubali hiyo?
Nyie ni LDC so tulia hadi miaka 50 ndo mjitoe humo,category ya walotupwa
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Kenya debt = $40B
Tanzania debt = $19B
Lakini si ni wasomi wenyu ndio wanacriticize iyo debt venye ni kubwa.Hii mambo ya debt tumeongelea huko na sote tukakubaliana hivi:
a) Kenya debt is sustainable and justified.
b)Debt isnt a bad thing, as long as it is intended for worthy purpose and with viable repayment plans.
c)Tanzania wants to develop its infrastrure right? It wants the sgr; the oil pipeline; new, modern roads; revamp both iits sea and air ports, right? Does Tanzania have the money to accomplish all these, not mentoning provision of other social services suvh as education, health etc?
Borrowing is the only way to achieve all these. Even tge wealthiest countries borrow, and they borrow big.
So, stop behaving like a befuddled idiot, always talking about Kenyan debts as if it is a bad thing, the country is headed for a doom.
Wasomi gani? Ama unazungumzia wale wanaharakati wa siasa za upinzani.Lakini si ni wasomi wenyu ndio wanacriticize iyo debt venye ni kubwa.
Yani uki minus kwenye gdp ya respective country unakuta difference ni ndogo sana.
Hii mambo ya debt tumeongelea huko na sote tukakubaliana hivi:
a) Kenya debt is sustainable and justified.
b)Debt isnt a bad thing, as long as it is intended for worthy purpose and with viable repayment plans.
c)Tanzania wants to develop its infrastrure right? It wants the sgr; the oil pipeline; new, modern roads; revamp both iits sea and air ports, right? Does Tanzania have the money to accomplish all these, not mentoning provision of other social services suvh as education, health etc?
Borrowing is the only way to achieve all these. Even tge wealthiest countries borrow, and they borrow big.
So, stop behaving like a befuddled idiot, always talking about Kenyan debts as if it is a bad thing, the country is headed for a doom.
Hizi propaganda nyinyi hutoa wapi?Hao in wale makabaila wa aridhi huko Kenya wanafurahia mavuno. Wajinga ndio waliwao nao ni wapenda uzungu Kenyan.
"Twajivunia kuishi uzunguni vile msemavyo,ni kweli kenya ni nchi ya wazungu,na hata vyote vilivyomo Kenya ni courtesy ya wazungu"Popote atakapoenda atasema hivyo hivyo au ulitegemea aseme Kenya is hell on earth? Hata akienda Sudani ya Kusini pia atatatfuta maneno mazuri ya kuwaambia watu wa huko!
Acheni kushawishika na kudanganyika kirahisi namna hiyo!
"Twajivunia kuishi uzunguni vile msemavyo,ni kweli kenya ni nchi ya wazungu,na hata vyote vilivyomo Kenya ni courtesy ya wazungu"
"Ndio naliwaambia pendeni wazungu msije mkawafukuza,ona sasa vyote tulivyonavyo humu,highways,airports,towers,hospitals,shopping malls,seaports etc"Sawa lkn kama uko on the winning side, lkn ukiwa ule upande mwingine wa Pokoto sijui Karamoja maisha yanakuwa magumu!
But you keep on telling us that you're a developed country and Tanzania is poor.
Me sijui exaxctly serikali itatimizaje hiyo miradi ila nimekuwa nikiona ikipangwa na ikitimizwa. Lakini wewe usidharau critics wa huko kwenyu.Wasomi gani? Ama unazungumzia wale wanaharakati wa siasa za upinzani.
Kama ni wazi ya kwamba wakati wa kujenga mbiundo mbinu ya kisasa ili kuboreshe uchumi umewadia, na hawa hawa pia wanakubali hivo basi liwe liwaalo. Hizo miundo mbinu zataweza kulipia haya madeni.
Kenya haina fedha ya ziada kutimiza hayo yote.
Kama serikali iliopo haingefanya chochote kutimiza haya malengi ya taifa, si pia wangelalamika na kusema hii ni serikali ovyo?
Haina umakini kwenye mikakati ya kimaendeleo.
Kama upinzani ungekuwa madarakani, ina maana hawangejenga mabarabara, reli, ports za kisasa eti wanaogopa madeni?
Na wewe Hoshea, hebu nieleze, serikali yenyu itatimizaje hayo malengo yoote ya kimaendeleo kama kujenga sgr, bomba ya gesi na mafuta, ports na viwanja vya ndege, mabarbara zote za kisasa? Ina fedha ya kutosha?
Basi hongereni!
Tumeachwa nyuma? Mlituacha mbali sana, sasa gap inapunguzwa mdo mdo. Nigeria sasa hivi yupo mbele ya SA na ana accelerate.Hii issue ya eti oo Kenya ni ya wazungu mara SA yamilikiwa na wazungu ni mbinu ya Bongoclats na Nigerians mtawalia kujiliwaza kwa vile wameachwa nyuma. Subiri UDSM dropout aje hapa kuni quote & reply.
US has debt rate to total GDp of around 90%, UK 86%, Japan at a staggering 240%, the highest of any country in the world. But tell me if those countries arr poor? Why are they not rated into the junk status?
Tanzania debt rate to Gdp is 36%, that is excluding the bit that was written off by the lenders. And if it wants to fulfil its ambitions of constructing those new, mordern transport infrastructure it will have to borrow.
Kilam, it is simple rithmetics:
Remember u had to borrow more than 10bn$ to construct tge Lamu port from the Chinese, that was in 2015.
The Gdp of Tz in 2015 was $45bn. Now do the math. 10bn$ is was more than 22% of the total Tz Gdp! Add that to the 30% u had already accumulated.
But that was not the only project you were planning to undertake. There are still several other, ranging from transport, power generation and supply, info and comm etc. You will have to borrow for nearly all of these, and by the time you are done........read my lips: your debt levels will probably rise to 70% of your Gdp!
If u dont want the debt, u think it's a bad thing, just tell your govt that the roads are unnecesarry.
Me sijui exaxctly serikali itatimizaje hiyo miradi ila nimekuwa nikiona ikipangwa na ikitimizwa. Lakini wewe usidharau critics wa huko kwenyu.
Kwani msomi hawezi kuwa mwanaharakati wa upinzani.