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Umemaliza kila kitu however if u wont mind what do atheists believe in or let's say what do atheists fail to believe concerning the existence of God......
Tuanzie hapo mkuu tupe darasa
Umemaliza kila kitu however if u wont mind what do atheists believe in or let's say what do atheists fail to believe concerning the existence of God......Kujibu swali la msingi la kichwa cha mjadala.
Atheism cannot be satanism.
1.To believe in Satan, in the traditional sense, one must believe in God. As Satan is the product of the God narrative per the Zoroastrian Good vs. Evil dichotomy.
2. Atheists do not believe in God.
3.Therefore, Atheists do not believe in Satan.
From that logic, people who believe in God believe more in Satan than people who do not believe in God.
In short, they do consciously embrace a god -- and it is "the self". Unfortunately many of them do not simply reject Christianity and proceed to mind their own business; they invest their energy in indoctrinating others into their viewpoints. Some, in fact, become evangelical in their fervor and aggressive in their approach. They clearly and desperately want adepts and they will invest time and money to accomplish their aim.
But what does the Bible say about atheists?
According to the Bible there is no such thing as being free from God and becoming independent. If one rejects Gods ways, he automatically joins the "other" camp and that camp is Satans camp. Satan is the Prince of the Power of the spirit that now works in the children of disobedience. (Ephesians 2:2).
Atheists are children of disobedience." They have no use for Gods commandments, though some may say that some commandments may have some "social value."
Atheism is therefore a philosophy that emanates from Satan. It leads to abandoning the true God and to idolizing the self. Furthermore it, at times, supports lifestyles which are dangerous and self-destructive.
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Atheists are very individual and have different reasons for their atheism, they don't have a certain holy book to follow, so I will not speak for anybody else, I will only speak for myself.Umemaliza kila kitu however if u wont mind what do atheists believe in or let's say what do atheists fail to believe concerning the existence of God......
Tuanzie hapo mkuu tupe darasa
Well and good basing on ur self description i would like you to enlighten me more as per your standardsAtheists are very individual and have different reasons for their atheism, they don't have a certain holy book to follow, so I will not speak for anybody else, I will only speak for myself.
1. I do not want to believe, I want to know.
2. I especially do not want to believe in anything that does not have logical consistency.
3. I Double especially do not want to believe in something that not only does not have logical consistency, but is also self contradictory.
The God idea, as expressed traditionally in the existence of the omnipotent, omniscient and omnibenevolent Godhead, is especially repugnant since it fails all the three testes above.
Well and good basing on ur self description i would like you to enlighten me more as per your standards
1. If you want to know not believe..... Have you ever wanted to know GOD and failed?? of course by using the right approach.... And if No (meaning you didn't use the right approach) why do u think God has failed the said criteria and not Kiranga
2. Why do you think God doesn't have logical consistency??
3. How does God contradict himself?? And don't tell me about the 101 bible contradictions because there is no place even in the bible that God mentioned anything to do with the bible so any contradiction derived from there won't be objective afterall it's a human being who wrote not God personally
Tiririka mkuu unipe darasa Nipo hapa kujifunza kuhusu atheists
1. Yes there is one who doesn't contradict Himself, He's called YHWH/Adonai.....I have read almost all the major religions, their description of God harbors many a contradiction.
If you have one that doesn't, please let's discuss.
Because he does not exist.The attempt to create the fictional character of God was made over many thousands of years, by people of varying degrees of knowledge of the world, their conflicting thoughts are reflected in the God they created, that is why this God does not have logical consistency.
I have pointed out which God I am talking about, based on the description people have presented.
If you are disputing me by saying there is a God who is not contradictable, please ask this God torevealhimself in a way that cannot be contradicted. Don't even argue for his existence, as that would also be you arguing, and not God revealing himself.Apparently you rejected the scriptures because they are not necessarily God's word. I would like you tpo continue with that line of logic.
Your God has not revealed himself. This contradicts his existence.1. Yes there is one who doesn't contradict Himself, He's called YHWH/Adonai.....
2 YHWH is consistent and ain't fictional.... Can u stress out any incosistence that u hve observed from ur research
3.''please ask this God toreveal himself in a way that cannot be contradicted''....... As i said every God has a criteria of approaching i mean even Lucifer is not just revealed anyhow
What exactly are u basing on when implying GOD HAS NOT REVEALED HIMSELF??Your God has not revealed himself. This contradicts his existence.
If there are people who question the existence of that God, it is obvious he has not revealed himself.What exactly are u basing on when implying GOD HAS NOT REVEALED HIMSELF??
As i said before every deity has an approach so as to be revealed to you even a Jinn cannot be revealed to you anyhowly unless you cast some spells and rituals so HOW DO YOU WANT GOD TO REVEAL HIMSELF if you are not making the right approach to seek his FACE!!
Kiranga you cannot never know death exists until you're bed ridden so is GOD you can never know HE exists unless you use the right approach to seek his faceIf there are people who question the existence of that God, it is obvious he has not revealed himself.
How do you prove that that God exists at all?
Kuwatukana haikusaidii. Huu ni mjadala huru na tukumbuke kila mtu ana uhuru wa kuamini au kutoamini unachoamini ww. Dini zetu zimejipambanua kufundisha mema sasa hicho unachoandka ni nini.I think the best question to them is this:
Why are there so many gay atheists? Does one tendency help cause the other?
"Kiranga you cannot never know..."Kiranga you cannot never know death exists until you're bed ridden so is GOD you can never know HE exists unless you use the right approach to seek his face
Just take an example you go to a traditional healer you cannot just see your ancestors face to face till you use the right approach lets say sacrifice a cock...... Perform rituals etc thus when the ancestors will be revealed to you
Such happens to YHWH you can neva know he exists till you approach HIM using the right procedure..... Have you ever experimented that too or your research was theoretical oriented rather than practical
Minor typing error which can't affect the content by any chance..... So let's stick to the point and ignore minor errors which are of less significance to our dialogue"Kiranga you cannot never know..."
What's with the double negatives?
If you can't avoid double negatives in your writing, how can I be assured you can follow a critique of Alvin Plantinga?
Is a double negative a typing error? Do you even know what I am referring to here?Minor typing error which can't affect the content by any chance..... So let's stick to the point and ignore minor errors which are of less significance to our dialogue
Having said that can you please reply my original querry
Kiranga am tired or your tricks.... Why are you evading the motion by using a minor error as a scapegoatIs a double negative a typing error? Do you even know what I am referring to here?
Are you not only ignorant, but also ignorant about your ignorance?
Minor error or minor typing error?Kiranga am tired or your tricks.... Why are you evading the motion by using a minor error as a scapegoat
Let's stick to the motion
HAVE YOU USED THE REQUIRED APPROACH WHEN SEEKING YHWH AND FAILED TO PROVE HIS EXISTENCE????
Every deity has a procedure..... It's just like testing for litmus paper there are procedures to follow you cannot just sit down and argue that a litmus paper can't change it's original color when tested in an alkaline solution???
So i want to know if you have done that and stop playing around the bush all in the name of minor errors
Mkuu si nimekubali ni uzembe umefanyika ila ni minor sababu 98% ya text iko sawa nlijisahau hapo ssa why make it a big deal as if humu ni formal forum hadi tuproof read mara 10??Minor error or minor typing error?
Unajua typing error ni nini?
Kama huwezi kuwa honest tu kukubali umekosea zaidi ya "a minor typing error" au kama hujui typing error ni nini, ninawezaje kuwa na uhakika unaweza ku analyze a logical statement kwenye truth table kichwani?
Are you only ignorant or are you also ignorant about your ignorance?
Ukikosea, usiwe mtu rahisi sana kusema umekosea padogo au pakubwa.Mkuu si nimekubali ni uzembe umefanyika ila ni minor sababu 98% ya text iko sawa nlijisahau hapo ssa why make it a big deal as if humu ni formal forum hadi tuproof read mara 10??
Rudi kwenye hoja je ulitumia approach gani kumsaka huyo MUNGU alafu ukamkosa sababu hta mchawi na jini huwezi kujua ana exist mpka utumie approach inayotakiwa
So tuache kujificha kwenye vijikosa vya kaneno kamoja na tujikite kwenye mada