KDF proves to be a "career" Army

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Museveni ‘queried Kenya army ability’
President Museveni allegedly questioned the capability of the Kenyan army to fight the Somali


President Yoweri Museveni of Uganda inspects a guard of honour on arrival at JKIA in Nairobi in a past visit. Photo/FILE
BY RISDEL KASASIRArkasasira@ug.nationmedia.com

President Museveni allegedly questioned the capability of the Kenyan army to fight the Somali insurgents in Somalia, a leaked US diplomatic cable has revealed.

According to the US ambassador to the African Union, Mr Michael Battle, Museveni questioned Kenya’s army bush-fighting credentials and the ideological commitment of its Somali proxies.

He advised the West to pay and develop Transitional Federal Government (TFG) fighters rather than the much more expensive and less effective options of funding international peace keepers and counter-piracy operations, the cables say.

Mr Battle’s comments, contained in a 2010 diplomatic briefing to Washington, leaked to whistle blower website, WikiLeaks, were first published on September 1, 2011.

According to the cable, President Museveni described the Kenyan forces as a “career army” and wondered about their ability to sustain bush fighters.

“Is Kenya used to fighting like this (bush and guerrilla warfare)?” Mr Museveni wondered.

The cable said the Ugandan leader was responding to (US assistant Secretary of State for African Affairs Mr Johnnie) Carson’s question about Kenya’s proposed Jubaland Initiative.

President Museveni acknowledged the operational value of seizing Kismayo and, more broadly, denying al Shabaab’s access to sea and airports.

However, “Museveni questioned the capacity of the Kenyans to manage such an offensive, as well as the ideological commitment of the Somali proxy forces,” read the cable.

Mr Museveni reportedly told top US diplomats in a free-ranging conversation on the margins of the African Union (AU) Summit in Addis Ababa in January last year that the Kenyan army and its allies in Somali semi-autonomous state of Jubaland were not ideologically prepared to fight al Shabaab.

Uganda’s minister for International Affairs Henry Okello Oryem, described the cable as a lie.

“There is no iota of truth in it. Our policy is not to comment on the affairs of other countries and do not think the president made those comments,” he said.

Efforts to get comments from the Kenyan Government were futile as the High Commissioner to Uganda was in hospital.

Efforts to get comments from government spokesperson Alfred Mutua, were futile as he didn’t take our calls.

Museveni ‘queried Kenya army ability’

MY TAKE
Gen. Museveni words hold waters todate 7th year down the line from that cable leak! No tangible results in Somalia to show off.

Now build Lokichar-Lamu pipeline n see how defenceless u r. Believe me the Al Shaababs will have a field day blasting the pipe everyday.

Boy stop that stupidity trying to compare TPDF n KDF! TPDF removed a decorated Gen. Amin a field Marshall supported by Libya n all Arabic countries plus Kenya.

That war lasted less than 2 years while ur stupid career Army can't remove ill equipped, malnourished Al Shaabab on a donkey back 7 years down the road. And u r daring to brag.

Very stupid boast from some of u! When this was said some Kenyan toddlers in here must have been babes suckling dog milk in the streets of Kibera.


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Its funny because the only idea they came up with, was to "wire-fencing" their border with Somali expecting terrorists will be deterred. Really???
 
Funny how some 5 years latter, with only 3000 troops, KDF occupies 3/4 of Somali active zone, while Uganda,Burundi,Wirral Leone,Ethiopia(who withdrew), with a combined forces of 15,000 strong occupies the rest of the 25%, were it not for Kenya joining , Amisom would still be in Mogadishu
 
I am still wondering how a fully UN equipped TPDF with state if the art military gear was ambushed by machete wielding thugs ambushed and slaughtered ******** boys to smithereens?
 
The problem with KDF starts with recruitment, the process is corrupt that only rich parents kids get to Join the army through bribery, these kids are not hardy and are soft cerelac babies.
Training is not adequate, it concentrates on endurance in harsh conditions and leaves out teamwork, and strategy
The last problem is that the qualifiction for Joining KDF is academic grade D- or Division 4 only and not higher. So the whole army is made up of stupid unlearned people
 
I am still wondering how a fully UN equipped TPDF with state if the art military gear was ambushed by machete wielding thugs ambushed and slaughtered ******** boys to smithereens?
Fully equipped seriously? How about limited mandates for those armies under UN?
 
Naskia pia kana ukabila kwenye kuitishana kazi!
 
When Alfred Mutua was the govt spokesman . Oh My
Does that makes any different looking at urban underachievement in Somalia? May be incompetence shoUld replace that career tag!
 
Fully equipped seriously? How about limited mandates for those armies under UN?
It seems only your army has access to such limited mandates. You are a rag tag army that's why thugs are able to ambush you with machetes and then come up with excuses for your incompetence...kwani tu ni nyinyi mko na UN peace keeping force in DRC?
 
It seems only your army has access to such limited mandates. You are a rag tag army that's why thugs are able to ambush you with machetes and then come up with excuses for your incompetence...kwani tu ni nyinyi mko na UN peace keeping force in DRC?
Hadi sasa wanajeshi zaidi ya 1200 wa Kenya wameuliwa Somalia, wakati Uganda waliotangulia kuingia Somalia miaka miwili kabla yenu wamekufa sio zaidi ya 70. Kambi nzima ya KDF ilitekwa kwa masaa kadhaa na silaha kuchukuliwa, hadi sasa wanajeshi wengi wa KDF wanashikiliwa mateka na Alshaabab. Nothing can explain this except very weak army.
 

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Joto m7 aliwahi kusema Jeshi Lao ni Legelege hakukosea.Eti wanasema jeshi la Tanzania lilivamiwa na machete huyu nigga ameamua kutufurshisha tu
 
TPDF linavamiwa na wanamgambo waliojiami kwa mapanga na visu. Jeshi hafifu la kupigana kwa mdomo tu ndio maana Idi Amin akawachagua nyinyi kwa kuwaona wanyonge na tangu siku zile Tz haijawahi kurecover economically... Kenya imekuwa Somalia kwa zaidi ya miaka 6 na bado inaongoza ukanda huu kiuchumi.
 
Eti mapanga na Visu [emoji23] [emoji23] [emoji23] Ama kweli mwasiti umeamua kufurahisha umma TPDF Usiifananishe na KDF aka wakora wa West gate
 
Hahahahahhahahhahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Kenya ranked as 'failed state'
 
Hv Kenya siku mkizidiwa uchumi na Tz mtakua na nn tena cha kujivunia?mana kila siku tupo juu kiuchumi mara tunaongoza EA kwa uchumi wakati uhalisia wa maisha yenu unajulikana
 
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