Kenyatta arrives in Uganda on a State visit

Kabaridi said:

Ab-Titchaz, kwa hiyo list umetoa ya marais wa kenya eti kenyatta, moi, Kibaki, kenyatta.. naona Kibaki hafai na he is the least of them all in terms who were great politicians. Kibaki might have the best economic brains in Africa.. but ikija katika siasa za wakongwe Oh hayupo. najua NAIROberyy Dhuks watapinga, but that is the truth of the matter..
..Even though moi was usually aggrandizing himself academically, you could not compare Moi and kibaki, interms of siasa ya wakongwe. Moi was a politician, Mzee the same, sasa sijui tutampima kamwana kwa yardstick gani? maana ulisema kapewa kila kitu, but i challenge that statement.:glasses-nerdy::nono:

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Mkuu,

hebu read what I put up there again and you will realise the yardstick I'm using to compare these
folks...i.e. they came to power by way of rigging/stealing elections. Hio biashara nyengine ya who
is a better politician is for other folks to debate. Then add the fact that they all have their hands
dripping with the blood of innocent Kenyans and as usual they cry out 'lets move on'.

Now lets stay on topic about the benefits and real reason behind this trip.

Utingo said:

While I agree with you I also feel sorry for you and your president. The last person on earth you can forge any sort of relationship is Kagame and Museveni.

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So in short what on earth are you suggesting, that the best person to forge with in EAC is DRC's Joseph Kabila? That man is on shaky ground. While Rwanda and Uganda have had wars in the past, they have had the resolve to transform themselves into peaceful nations. the current route that congo is taking reminds me of Somalia of 1992. I have never seen any nation build on western backing last, Somalia tried it in 1992 but disintegrated Mobutu tried and failed. I Look at Bashir in Sudan, the only way the west can rid Sudan of his leadership is if they go the Gaddafi route.

Kabaridi said:

So in short what on earth are you suggesting, that the best person to forge with in EAC is DRC's Joseph Kabila? That man is on shaky ground. While Rwanda and Uganda have had wars in the past, they have had the resolve to transform themselves into peaceful nations. the current route that congo is taking reminds me of Somalia of 1992. I have never seen any nation build on western backing last, Somalia tried it in 1992 but disintegrated Mobutu tried and failed. I Look at Bashir in Sudan, the only way the west can rid Sudan of his leadership is if they go the Gaddafi route.

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Use your head not your bottom to think. Is DRC part of EAC?

I am saying the perception looks like is eched in your mind and is quite dangerous to enclave on if we are serious on fast-tracking EAC federation, else it remains a tinker...If you discredit M7 and Kagame, you have discredited almost 65 % of EA bearing in mind the international issues facing Kenya's president adds to 80%.

Geza Ulole said:

A bunch of losers trying to get attention! Imagine an EAC meeting on infrastructure and security that excludes Tanzania and Burundi. The good thing is that infrastructure will need financing and will come from Western backed financial agencies like AfDB! And if from China then China prefers Tanzania than any of the other EAC members as manifested by recent Xi Jinping's visit to Tanzania immediately after ascending to power that bypassed Kenya, Uganda and Rwanda and stashed US$ 14 bio. on spot :clap2:

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Geza Ulole, you sound a bitter man!? wivu wa nini? King of envy!! we are going ahead with like minded progressive minds, why do we need Tanzania when we can have DRC,Ethiopia and S.Sudan?!...by the way the presidents achieved a lot..EAC without Tanzania is possible so long as you keep on behaving like an adolescent girl being seduced!..Its high time to learn to cooperate,trade and investments are the only engines of growth!..EAC is about all that!!..About Burundi,whose president is always a late comer whenever EAC heads are meeting,will choose btwn joining the losers club with you or ride on the wave of success and progress being led by the 3 able and reliable heads of states of Kenya,Uganda and Rwanda...If you cant stand this pls go and jump into the deepest part of the sea,and dont come back! y live when ua heart aches whenever EAC dream gets closer to reality

if you think the current tanzania is really into OBAMA mania, think again...kikwete's heart lies where Kibaki lies..just recently a road calle old bagamoyo road in TZ was recently named after kibaki...Even, I have heard sources in Uganda Suggest the same
...So Geza Ulole you can't wish integration away.....