Let us have a civilised discussion on the proposed katiba. Trolls please keep off!

Let us have a civilised discussion on the proposed katiba. Trolls please keep off!

msemakweli

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So, have you read the proposed katiba yet? Have you made up your mind? Is it aye or nay?
Please share your views on the proposed katiba. If possible please keep political parties out of it (avoid mentioning CCM or UKAWA or others unless absolutely necessary). Weka kando ushabiki wa kivyama na ufikiri kama mTanzania anayejali maslahi ya nchi yake kama ilivyo sasa na itakavyokuwa baadae (miaka 50+ ijayo).....the floor is all yours!
 
So, have you read the proposed katiba yet? Have you made up your mind? Is it aye or nay?
Please share your views on the proposed katiba. If possible please keep political parties out of it (avoid mentioning CCM or UKAWA or others unless absolutely necessary). Weka kando ushabiki wa kivyama na ufikiri kama mTanzania anayejali maslahi ya nchi yake kama ilivyo sasa na itakavyokuwa baadae (miaka 50+ ijayo).....the floor is all yours!

Unaona sura ya Bunge Maalum? Hakuna sehemu kwenye Sheria Mabadiliko ya Katiba sura ya 83 (toleo la mwaka, 2014) inayoonesha vyama vya siasa. Vyama hivi ni watu tuu ndiyo wanavitanguliza badala ya utaifa. Hebu angalia sehemu ya tano ya sheria hiyo kuhusu Kuitisha Bunge Maalum, inasema Kuitisha Bunge Maalum ni halali kwa kuzingatia Sheria Na. 9 ya mwaka, 2013 na kuatangazwa kupitia Tangazo la Serikali Na. 394 la mwaka 2011 Amri ya 2 aya (r) 22.-(1) kwamba kutakuwa na Bunge Maalum litakalokuwa na wajumbe wafuatao: (a) wabunge wote wa Bunge la Jamhuri ya Muungano; (b) wajumbe wote wa Baraza la Wawakilishi la Zanzibar.

Kuhusu wajumbe hawa 201 watakaoteuliwa na Rais kwa makubaliano na Rais wa Zanzibar idadi hiyo inakamilika kutokana na mchanganuo huu: (i) wajumbe ishirini kutoka Taasisi zisizokuwa za Kiserikali. Sheria ya Mabadiliko ya Katiba [Sura ya 83 Toleo la mwaka 2014] inasema (ii) wajumbe ishirini kutoka Taasisi za Kidini; (iii) wajumbe arobaini na mbili kutoka Vyama vyote vya Siasa vyenye usajili wa kudumu; (iv) wajumbe ishirini kutoka Taasisi za Elimu; (v) wajumbe ishirini kutoka katika makundi ya watu wenye ulemavu; (vi) wajumbe kumi na tisa kutoka Vyama vya Wafanyakazi; (vii) wajumbe kumi kutoka Vyama vinavyowakilisha Wafugaji; (viii) wajumbe kumi kutoka Vyama vinavyowakilisha Wavuvi; (ix) wajumbe ishirini kutoka Vyama vya Wakulima; (x) wajumbe ishirini kutoka makundi mengine yoyote ambayo yana malengo yanayofanana.


Ninafurahi kuwa wapo Watanzania wanaojali taifa lao na wamegundua ni vema kujenga utaifa badala ya kuendekeza malumbano na matusi yasiyo tija kwa nchi yetu. Tujenge misingi imara juu ya Katiba Inayopendekezwa ifae hata zaidi ya miaka 50 ijayo.
 
Lilikuwa ni kosa kubwa sana kuwashirikisha wanasiasa katika mchakato huu. Tungepaswa kujifunza kwa wakenya. Wabunge walipeleka tu maoni yao kwenye kamati ya wataalam walioandaa katiba yao kama interest group tu. Huku tuliwapa wabunge mamlaka ya kualter kazi ya wataalam!
 
Unaona sura ya Bunge Maalum? Hakuna sehemu kwenye Sheria Mabadiliko ya Katiba sura ya 83 (toleo la mwaka, 2014) inayoonesha vyama vya siasa. Vyama hivi ni watu tuu ndiyo wanavitanguliza badala ya utaifa. Hebu angalia sehemu ya tano ya sheria hiyo kuhusu Kuitisha Bunge Maalum, inasema Kuitisha Bunge Maalum ni halali kwa kuzingatia Sheria Na. 9 ya mwaka, 2013 na kuatangazwa kupitia Tangazo la Serikali Na. 394 la mwaka 2011 Amri ya 2 aya (r) 22.-(1) kwamba kutakuwa na Bunge Maalum litakalokuwa na wajumbe wafuatao: (a) wabunge wote wa Bunge la Jamhuri ya Muungano; (b) wajumbe wote wa Baraza la Wawakilishi la Zanzibar.

Kuhusu wajumbe hawa 201 watakaoteuliwa na Rais kwa makubaliano na Rais wa Zanzibar idadi hiyo inakamilika kutokana na mchanganuo huu: (i) wajumbe ishirini kutoka Taasisi zisizokuwa za Kiserikali. Sheria ya Mabadiliko ya Katiba [Sura ya 83 Toleo la mwaka 2014] inasema (ii) wajumbe ishirini kutoka Taasisi za Kidini; (iii) wajumbe arobaini na mbili kutoka Vyama vyote vya Siasa vyenye usajili wa kudumu; (iv) wajumbe ishirini kutoka Taasisi za Elimu; (v) wajumbe ishirini kutoka katika makundi ya watu wenye ulemavu; (vi) wajumbe kumi na tisa kutoka Vyama vya Wafanyakazi; (vii) wajumbe kumi kutoka Vyama vinavyowakilisha Wafugaji; (viii) wajumbe kumi kutoka Vyama vinavyowakilisha Wavuvi; (ix) wajumbe ishirini kutoka Vyama vya Wakulima; (x) wajumbe ishirini kutoka makundi mengine yoyote ambayo yana malengo yanayofanana.


Ninafurahi kuwa wapo Watanzania wanaojali taifa lao na wamegundua ni vema kujenga utaifa badala ya kuendekeza malumbano na matusi yasiyo tija kwa nchi yetu. Tujenge misingi imara juu ya Katiba Inayopendekezwa ifae hata zaidi ya miaka 50 ijayo.

Safi sana kwa mchanganuo mzuri nadhani hii inaweza kuwa dawa kwa wale wasiotaka kuelewa hasa akina Mwakaboko, Tyta a.k.a Tetty, MWALA, President Elect n.k kwani hawa wamekuwa wakibisha pasipo evidences na wamekuwa watu wenye matuc tu daima, jambo linalowafanya watu wajue kuwa wametumwa kuharibu tu humu ndani.
 
Lilikuwa ni kosa kubwa sana kuwashirikisha wanasiasa katika mchakato huu. Tungepaswa kujifunza kwa wakenya. Wabunge walipeleka tu maoni yao kwenye kamati ya wataalam walioandaa katiba yao kama interest group tu. Huku tuliwapa wabunge mamlaka ya kualter kazi ya wataalam!

Mr. Msemakweli I would like to begin this discussion by commending you for your desire to make a fruitful and informed discussion. This will enlighten some members mind especially those who have not read the Katiba Inayopendekezwa. For this I say keep it up.:flypig: On the other hand let you be informed that this is not the time to criticise the process it is rather a time to vote for or against. Let us focus on this otherwise we shall derail yaani tunataacha njia. Let's encourage people to read or participate in a fruitful discussion and civic education opportunities. If you have something to add or to say you are most welcome my dear!:rain:
 
Mr. Msemakweli I would like to begin this discussion by commending you for your desire to make a fruitful and informed discussion. This will enlighten some members mind especially those who have not read the Katiba Inayopendekezwa. For this I say keep it up.:flypig: On the other hand let you be informed that this is not the time to criticise the process it is rather a time to vote for or against. Let us focus on this otherwise we shall derail yaani tunataacha njia. Let's encourage people to read or participate in a fruitful discussion and civic education opportunities. If you have something to add or to say you are most welcome my dear!:rain:
That is true. It is now too late to be criticizing the process. Have you read the proposed katiba? What are your views? I personally think that the document is one big joke! They got it all wrong; startingfrom the union structure (i was hoping we would adopt Kenya's majimbo system) to the fact that it obliges the government to provide farmers with farm inputs (i think this was a ploy to garner support for their fake document)
 
That is true. It is now too late to be criticizing the process. Have you read the proposed katiba? What are your views? I personally think that the document is one big joke! They got it all wrong; startingfrom the union structure (i was hoping we would adopt Kenya's majimbo system) to the fact that it obliges the government to provide farmers with farm inputs (i think this was a ploy to garner support for their fake document)
Msemakweli to answer yes for reading Proposed Constitution is not enough only to say I have read it several times and scrutunised it and analysed it. Again my friend you still falling into the same trap of coming up with suggestions or proposals if not ammendments. This is not the time for such processes, it is the time for registration and consequent voting for Katiba Inayopendekezwa. By the way do you have a copy of this constitution in any form! If you don't have one contact me atleast to give you a softcopy of Katiba Inayopendekezwa.
 
Msemakweli to answer yes for reading Proposed Constitution is not enough only to say I have read it several times and scrutunised it and analysed it. Again my friend you still falling into the same trap of coming up with suggestions or proposals if not ammendments. This is not the time for such processes, it is the time for registration and consequent voting for Katiba Inayopendekezwa. By the way do you have a copy of this constitution in any form! If you don't have one contact me atleast to give you a softcopy of Katiba Inayopendekezwa.[/SIZE][/B]

The most important is to be informed on what going on regarding Proposed Constitution,citizens awareness is very important ,understanding the content and making followups on the voting day to be scheduled by the NEC, Keep watching!!!
 
Dont be afraid sometimes kwenye msafara wa mambo kenge hawakosi, that is our difference!!!!
 
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