Haha duh, so this debate is going to be decided by oranges ....wewe kweli ni ODM.[emoji23]
Your missing the point of having that amount of human capital and huge market in one place. Kenya with all it's business greediness, they can't find their way into an Ethiopian marketing.
That's very true, jamaa wanabana kila mahali, American themselves have tried to enter Ethiopian marketing and failed. Chinese have barely enter by using their "Communist card" because Ethiopia has been Communist country for a long time and China was backing them with military assistant. But truth to be told those guys (Ethiopia) have massive potential market.Ethiopian Market is heavily regulated.
The Ethiopian government heavily protects it's economy under the guise of protecting infant industries. Yet in reality they're only protecting govt control and creating a huge bottleneck to economic advancement. Their 2016 industrial output is smaller than Uganda's, let Tanzania's and Kenya's just because there isn't exports and imports to and from Neighboring countries.That's very true, jamaa wanabana kila mahali, American themselves have tried to enter Ethiopian marketing and failed. Chinese have barely enter by using their "Communist card" because Ethiopia has been Communist country for a long time and China was backing them with military assistant. But truth to be told those guys (Ethiopia) have massive potential market.
Their economy will increase with them joining EAC, lakini is it in their best interest?. Until they build there own capacity e.g education, laws, or producing something for EAC. They will continue to be protective, they are accessing more world markets without any EAC bureaucracy They've run and clinch Djibouti route just to give themselves leverage of not to depend too much on EAC.The Ethiopian government heavily protects it's economy under the guise of protecting infant industries. Yet in reality they're only protecting govt control and creating a huge bottleneck to economic advancement. Their 2016 industrial output is smaller than Uganda's, let Tanzania's and Kenya's just because there isn't exports and imports to and from Neighboring countries.
If they were to join the EAC today and open up to trade at least to the same level as the other EAC nations, all economies in the region would at least double in size in the short to medium term of 5-7yrs
The Ethiopians have since time immemorial used only Djibouti for imports and exports. Their trade with Djibouti is so pitiable, it's mostly shipping their goods through, nothing more. Djibouti even complained last year about Ethiopia blocking their companies. S.Sudan is far more underdeveloped than Ethiopia but it's joined the EAC and benefited alot.Their economy will increase with them joining EAC, lakini is it in their best interest?. Until they build there own capacity e.g education, laws, or producing something for EAC. They will continue to be protective, they are accessing more world markets without any EAC bureaucracy They've run and clinch Djibouti route just to give themselves leverage of not to depend too much on EAC.
This is why I said to you before, they will only join EAC if is in their best interest. Djibouti is their trading partner only in logistics at the moment, na Djibouti is junior partner because they want Ethiopian logistics money (they can't complain much). I'm not denying that Ethiopia joining EAC would be a huge plus to EAC as whole because will be a very sizeable market of 200+ million people. Lakini, with all this trade war going on within EAC and outside will that serve their interest? South Sudan needs EAC, they've no food, no strong government, no infrastructure, no even institution. They need EAC to access investments and and also to guarantee their security. As you said it, Ethiopia is granting EU, China slice of their market but look who is making most of the profits, Ethiopia of course, there is not difficult country shift fands abroad like Ethiopia. At the same time EU can't sale much to Ethiopia because the market is not ripe for consumption for European goods. But on the other hand, Ethiopia can sale even their teeth to EU and others because they have the advantage low production cost.The Ethiopians have since time immemorial used only Djibouti for imports and exports. Their trade with Djibouti is so pitiable, it's mostly shipping their goods through, nothing more. Djibouti even complained last year about Ethiopia blocking their companies. S.Sudan is far more underdeveloped than Ethiopia but it's joined the EAC and benefited alot.
Problem with Ethiopia is they fear eac competition but have opened up to Chinese and European companies in many sectors. That's double standards at its best
That's the stuff I studied in college, sir. You have added in me absolutely nothing new to my knowlege with your lectures regarding the GDP PC . And your headlong glorification of the Ethiopian economic success and your ridiculing of Kenya's reveals your deep-seated resentment towards the latter.If you understood GDP Per Capita tungeweza kumaliza haya maneno kitambo. Ethiopia has more than 100million people, whatever they earn it has to be divided to 100 million people. Kenya you only have 47 million, you divide your income to 47mil ppl. Lazima Ethiopia GDP per capita will be smaller than Kenyan but that's not a real story, they're archiving 10% economical growth while Kenya is on the downward trend.
Let my old man akupe darasa about GDP per capita
Well, I did noticed that people from the horn of Africa hold a lot of reservations regarding interactions with neighbors, more so ukilinganisha na the great Lakes region. But for me, hata kama ni Northern Sudan yataka kujoin, for as long as they table something relevant I've got no qualms with them brother
The EAC is an economic bloc, countries are joining the EAC because there's more to gain economically, not because we would like cross border marriages or something like that.Livale Mwanzi1 Look beyond economic gains. The Kenyan way of looking at things ni through the economic lens basi. Lucky for you Tanzanians know abit more about nationbuilding. We need to have social-cultural similarities. The Congolese speak Swahili better than most Kenyans even. Have you ever tried courting an Ethiopian/Somalian? They think themselves special.....don't wanna dilute their blood. Like Indians. Lakini Congo hamna upumbavu huo!
I do understand what your saying, but i think your looking at this in short term rather than long term. I think you should look at this in 50 years from now, 100 years from now. The people of then will be more closer than us, they will be connected with common language of "Internet". We have 54 counties in AU, and apart from smaller problems we are all getting along very well. All I know about economical block, is not about what you get out, it is what you put in. A country which produces more will sale more and benefited more than the others in the community. Congo has so much to offer, so as Ethiopia so as Somalia, is it up to them to feel like they need EAC rather than EAC need them. Remember EAC is like one big market place, the farmer will pick the most profitable market to sale his/her produce.Livale Mwanzi1 Look beyond economic gains. The Kenyan way of looking at things ni through the economic lens basi. Lucky for you Tanzanians know abit more about nationbuilding. We need to have social-cultural similarities. The Congolese speak Swahili better than most Kenyans even. Have you ever tried courting an Ethiopian/Somalian? They think themselves special.....don't wanna dilute their blood. Like Indians. Lakini Congo hamna upumbavu huo!
This is exactly things I would expect you to say, when Kenya loses this is kind of language it comes out. I said it before, Kenya is lower middle income in economical sense you're still in mad. You just posted a link showing Kenyan position economically. Not far from Tanzania, Ethiopia is just taking Kenyan cake and eating it, in human capital, production, in electrical.