Massanda OMtima Massanda
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You want to make us believe that there is no single rep from Acacia in the on-going discussions? If so, then that should be very strange!
You want to make us believe that there is no single rep from Acacia in the on-going discussions? If so, then that should be very strange!Acacia are not welcome to the table. Only Barrick.
Which begs another question. Who advised the president that Barrick can make management decisions for Acacia? So much for corporate governance understanding.
Not me making you believe. It's the president who said he doesn't want to see Acacia on the table as to him they don't legally exist. According to the committees.You want to make us believe that there is no single rep from Acacia in the on-going discussions? If so, then that should be very strange!
If they don't exist, where does that name come from in our books? Whether they have reps, I believe there is internal consensus between them and Barrick. Believe me, there is no way Barrick can conclude issues without Acacia tick!Not me making you believe. It's the president who said he doesn't want to see Acacia on the table as to him they don't legally exist. According to the committees.
If they end up having a member, then will be another fork tongue incident? If they don't involve them, the whole thing is a mess.
You nailed it all Bro. I'm waiting to hear responses from Samantha ColeSamantha Cole, your extensive public letter to the president failed to advise him one or two things which were so clear regarding fork-tongue as you call it.
While addressing the press regaring the proceedings of his meeting with Thornton, he was as jovial and all smiles including praising them as "hawa ni wanaume". The same people he called thieves. How should we read that?
Fine that he said they asked for forgiveness. But there was no promise nor acceptance that Barrick owes us that much. The president himself loudly and clearly said their will be negotiating teams to probe the findings and Barrick will be ready to pay all that is found to be owed to us.
Number two. The most demeaning of all. As he was talking about the meeting, as I noted above, he was all smiles and jovial. Then came ther turn to address the local press. This is where all his true nature came out.
Did you notice he raised the index finger pointing to and actually repriminding the local press? As an abusive father would to his kids. Did you notice the change, actually the raising, of tone? Did you notice the sudden disappearance of the 'all smiles face'? Did you? What does that tell you?
The same guy who was all jovial with the thieves, now turns out and starts dictating how the press should report former leaders. Same leaders where all this stuff originated. If you did not notice any of the above dictates, you are either an imposter of the govt or you chose to see only that which sutains your agenda. Whatever that is.
Samantha, the president is his own undoing. Today he says you are a thief, tomorrow you are on a round table with him. We now have patterns.
Remember Bakhresa and the ICDs, later he was given some farm for some plantation. By the president. Remember Dangote and closure of factory? Later he was given free coal mining rights. By the president. And you know very well in future years this will be subject of scrutiny. And the list doesn't stop there.
You do wish to question the purchase of a number of planes at a time when public hospitals have no medication, when public schools have no desks, when employment is at an all time high and when public coffers are at an all time low.
To add salt to the injury, the planes were bought cashy. Furthermore we have a ferry that never operated and a few other projects (in Chattle?) of less than adequate probity.
Suffice to say that he is his own problem. And he is good at it.
Bro that's what we call delusions of grandiosity, we are no different from other African countries. We need to learn the global business manners for negotiations. Our number 1 choose the wrong path out of his grandiosity and ignorance.Call them all names but the point remains intact! Round table, believe me or not, always do miracles!
By the way, for the Barrick Managing Director walking that long, you still think it is not an arm's length? Come on guys! Be serious!
CHUI HAGEUKI MADOADOA !!
Dear Hon. President Magufuli
Last week, after the President’s meeting with John Thornton, we wrote a letter to you that we believe there is another agenda to Barrick’s sudden and urgent need to meet the President. We wrote Chui hageuki madoadoa – A leopard cannot change its spots and according to the media reports over the past few days, we see how correct we are about these Canadian and British millionaire businessmen.
Only five days ago, the following words from the Hon. President were quoted in the media worldwide:
"If they (Acacia Mining) accept that they stole from us and seek forgiveness in front of God and the angels and all Tanzanians and enter into negotiations, we are ready to do business." Even as Thornton flew across the world in his private jet, he could have thought long and hard about the Hon. Presidents words about the need to accept the theft and to seek forgiveness. We believe there was only one thought in Thornton’s head – to put on the best show for the world media so the company shares turn around and go up and the stock exchange analysts start looking positively again on Barrick Gold and Acacia Mining.
Thornton’s comments in his press release after meeting the President was telling us they will look at every claim of our Presidents two Committee reports and they discuss one claim after the next. He promised NOTHING else.
Mr. President, CHUI HAGEUKI MADOADOA and they will fight us and argue and dispute and use their media power to fight Tanzania. We can already see their arrogance and aggression in the media this weekend.
Please look at how they feed “The Economist” in London with lies and terrible insults about the Hon. President. And such insults not even 48 hours after the Barrick boss was hosted so warmly and elegantly by the Hon. President.
Is this the way they demonstrate “… accept that they stole from us and seek forgiveness in front of God and the angels… “?
The Economist in London wrote that the Hon. Presidents gesture to Thornton “could hardly have been more fork-tongued.” What a disgusting insult to the Hon. President!
Google defines “fork-tongue” as: to deliberately say one thing and mean another or, to be hypocritical, or act in a duplicitous (two-faced) manner.
Mr. President, do those people have no shame as to be so insulting? The Economist goes on to describe Tanzania as having “… initially wooed (Barrick) into the country by generous tax concessions.” As if to say there was no gold here and let’s not talk about the hundreds of millions (billions?) of US Dollars of dividends to overseas shareholders whilst they defraud our country of the little export royalty that should be paid. Thornton received warm hospitality from the Presidency and they feed these lies to the media? If anyone here is two-faced, it is Barrick – Acacia!
Even worse, Mr. President, please look at what Brad Gordon, CEO of Acacia Mining said in a telephone interview with MiningMx (a South African media company) the day after Thornton’s meeting with the Hon. President:
Brad Gordon rejected the claims made in a report by Bloomberg - that Barrick is ready “to pay all the money it’s expected to pay Tanzania”. Who is fork-tongued?
Also, Gordon said negotiations had yet to begin and the negotiating teams from both sides had yet to be appointed. So we see again (same as I wrote last week – they will continue to fight and dispute).
Also, Gordon said Acacia’s response to these assessments and allegations had not changed from the statement issued on June 12 in which Acacia said: “Acacia strongly refutes these new unfounded allegations. We have always conducted our business to the highest standards and operated in full compliance with Tanzanian law.” Who is fork-tongued? Barrick boss comes supposedly with one agenda (which is a lie anyway) and the Acacia boss has another agenda with no shame at all.
Finally, Gordon said “John Thornton wanted to experience the situation on the ground for himself and that’s why he was in the country.” Thornton did not come to Tanzania to fix the situation. He came to fix and boost their share prices!
Mr. President, Tanzanian’s were shocked on Wednesday after the meeting with Thornton when Mr. Ian Myles, Canada’s High Commissioner in Dar es Salaam said to reporters (on the video):
“Canada is very proud that it expects all its companies to respect the highest standards, fairness and respect for laws and corporate social responsibility. We know that Barrick is very much committed to those values.”
It is so insulting that these Canadians and British still think they can trick us with their fancy nonsense “spin” politics and dishonesty. What values is Barrick committed to? Have our nation not witnessed with our own eyes killings? rape? arson and burning our homes? destruction to our environment? poison in our water? corruption? fraud? hundreds of legal cases with local Tanzanian companies who are abused, bullied and suffer? and the list goes on. What “values” is Ambassador Myles boasting about? How dishonest and unethical to stand there and lie about values. He should rather say NOTHING because every country where Barrick operates has a long, long list of illegal activities and crimes.
Chui hageuki madoadoa – A leopard cannot change its spots.
The Tanzania People are behind you, Mr. President. Barrick will arrive with the most expensive specialists and lawyers and accountants that money can buy. Their intention and focus will be to belittle our two President’s Committee who prepared the two mineral reports. We trust that the Hon. President will prepare to have a Team of similar standing, experience and know-how, to oppose these Godless, shameless Canadians and British who have little or no values, standards, fairness nor respect for laws and corporate social responsibility.
May God bless our President with wisdom and understanding to see through these vicious business people who prey on our land, on our minerals and on our People.
Amen.
Samantha Cole
www.tanzaniabusinessethics.wordpress.com
www.facebook.com/sam.cole.ethics
Which wrong path from the delusion of grandiosity? Does your statement of referring African countries reflect what you would be had it been that you were one among their leaders?Bro that's what we call delusions of grandiosity, we are no different from other African countries. We need to learn the global business manners for negotiations. Our number 1 choose the wrong path out of his grandiosity and ignorance.
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You won't see her here anymore. We lambasted her and she is now uguliaring wherever she is in LumumbwaYou nailed it all Bro. I'm waiting to hear responses from Samantha Cole
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Where is the sensitivity?Contributions will be scarce not because of the language used, it is simply because of sensitivity of the topic and how far constitutions car reach, without ""crossing the line'' otherwise wacha tuachia hapa tu
If there rises someone to ignore the sensitivity of this thread, then there is something wrong somewhere, especially when issues concerning our economical well being are at table!Contributions will be scarce not because of the language used, it is simply because of sensitivity of the topic and how far constitutions car reach, without ""crossing the line'' otherwise wacha tuachia hapa tu
You won't see her here anymore. We lambasted her and she is now uguliaring wherever she is in Lumumbwa
Let those who turn a blind eye to our president's efforts in making our nation to strongly stand on its own feet, be cursed! Again and again, woe to them!My Friends,
You lambasted no-one and you will ALWAYS see Samantha Cole here because there is no compromise for Ethics, Integrity, Honesty and God given values.
MOTO212:
Our President has NOT failed us since he walked into the IKULU almost 2 years ago.
There is no "grandiosity and ignorance" as you write.
Did you read the news about the sudden new strategy of Buzwagi Mine? Suddenly they can change production to gold bars? What? Did someone wake up last week with a new idea?
Our President knows what he doing. Those Canada and British people think we are all asleep or stupid.
Watch, Brother, have faith. Think positive. Time will show Tanzania becoming one of the great countries in Africa.