None of the presidential aspirants dwelt on issues that actually matter

None of the presidential aspirants dwelt on issues that actually matter

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By JAINDI KISERO | The Nation | Feb 26, 2013


In terms of the economy, the main talking point in the last presidential debate was the minimum wage.

The debate left out the relevant and pressing economic issues of the day.

I had wanted to hear the candidates discuss the deteriorating state of government finances – public debt, a recurrent cost financing crisis, the widening current account deficit, and the size of the budget deficit.

What are the presidential candidates planning to do to return Kenya to the growth path that was interrupted by the post-election violence when the economy grew by 7 per cent in 2007?

Infrastructure should have been a major talking point. Even on the matter of the minimum wages, the debate produced more heat than light.

Clearly, the presidential candidates did not want to commit themselves to any specific position on this critical question.

I wanted to see a presidential candidate sticking out his or her neck and promising to abolish the minimum wage altogether.

The truth is that in an economy that long embraced liberalisation, and having committed itself to rolling back the frontiers of big government, the minimum wage is an anachronism.

The concept is as archaic as price controls, foreign exchange allocation committees and State-owned commodity marketing boards.

Every Labour Day, the practice is for the government to adjust the minimum wage. But in reality, it is an irrelevance.

If you study most collective bargaining agreements today, you will discover that the average wages negotiated within the scope of the agreements are way higher than the minimum wage.

Why do you want to control wages even after liberalising retrenchment? In a context of a stagnating formal wage sector, shrinking trade union membership, an expanding informal sector, and a booming medium- and small-enterprises sector in which there are no unions, does it make sense to maintain a minimum wage?

On the flip side, I wanted to hear from a defender of the minimum wage prepared to argue that the system must be strengthened to better insulate the incomes of the lowly-paid workers from ravaging inflation. Do we still have any social democrats left in this country?

The segment of the presidential debate on corruption was even more disappointing. It was more about scandal-mongering than an attempt to hold leaders to account. They threw mud at each other as though it was a race to determine who was the most corrupt.

When you let leaders trade allegations and accuse each other of corruption in the manner they did, you allow fudging of responsibility and make it impossible to pin down any of them on culpability.

Scandal-mongering by politicians is what has fed public cynicism and made it impossible for us to come up with a workable anti-corruption strategy.

When you try to pin a politician down on an allegation you can’t prove, you encourage dishonesty and deception which, in turn, fuels even more suspicion and cynicism.

My final point on the debate is the following. It should have allocated more time for a discussion on infrastructure.

Indeed, the next president is going to inherit a bagful of multi-billion shilling infrastructure projects that are in various stages of implementation.

I will mention just a few exciting ones. Recently, we signed a commercial contract with Chinese contractors and financiers to build for us a new 1,200-km standard gauge railway line from Mombasa to Kampala.

We are building 612 kilometres of a 500 kilovolt line through Ethiopia to Kenya at a cost of Sh65 billion.

We are building a completely new airport, and a new pipeline between Eldoret and Kampala. Then we have the group of projects known as the Lamu Corridor.

We need a president who keeps his or her eyes on the ball. There is no alternative to sustainable growth.
 
until the candidates started ambushing each other did the moderator bring in other topics. since most of all those candidates may be tainted except maybe abdouba dida, many issues like transport, infrustructure remained untackled and that is the culture we have. we enjoy dwelling on controversy.

Nobody came up with a clear economic roadmap,
 
until the candidates started ambushing each other did the moderator bring in other topics. since most of all those candidates may be tainted except maybe abdouba dida, many issues like transport, infrustructure remained untackled and that is the culture we have. we enjoy dwelling on controversy.

Nobody came up with a clear economic roadmap,

I have a question for you Sir! How many Kenyans Percentage wise were able to follow and understand what was really discussed about, I mean in terms of Language barrier, please help me out on that if you can, Its very important for me to know!
 
I have a question for you Sir! How many Kenyans Percentage wise were able to follow and understand what was really discussed about, I mean in terms of Language barrier, please help me out on that if you can, Its very important for me to know!

I would guess in the upwards of 70%, we may not be perfect English speakers but Kenyans understand English pretty well for it was the language of instruction in school.
 
I would guess in the upwards of 70%, we may not be perfect English speakers but Kenyans understand English pretty well for it was the language of instruction in school.

I asked that question, cause I was in Kenya wakati wa kutengeneza Katiba mpya (New constitution), and most of the times they had to use both English and Swahili, and the reason was, according to them, had they used only English language most people would be left out especially wakati wa kutoa maoni (cant put that in english) and that would make the New constitution meaningless as it would only be for the few who could be speak English!

And because of that I really doubt your number, according to my experience I'd put It less than 20% taking into account most Kenyans live in Villages where even Kiswahili is problem leave alone English, think about again 70% is not possible, even within Nairobi it self you still wont get that number!

 
I asked that question, cause I was in Kenya wakati wa kutengeneza Katiba mpya (New constitution), and most of the times they had to use both English and Swahili, and the reason was, according to them, had they used only English language most people would be left out especially wakati wa kutoa maoni (cant put that in english) and that would make the New constitution meaningless as it would only be for the few who could be speak English!

And because of that I really doubt your number, according to my experience I'd put It less than 20% taking into account most Kenyans live in Villages where even Kiswahili is problem leave alone English, think about again 70% is not possible, even within Nairobi it self you still wont get that number!


Parliamentary proceedings are conducted in english more than 95% of the time, english papers outsell the swahili ones 20:1, interaction in school during for 8 or 12 years is only like 5% swahili, every formal application form that we fill in banking is in english so it would be naive to say that only 20% of kenyans understand english.
There is a segment of kenyans who dont understand english but i bet if the debate was conducted in perfect swahili it would have locked out more.
 
I have a question for you Sir! How many Kenyans Percentage wise were able to follow and understand what was really discussed about, I mean in terms of Language barrier, please help me out on that if you can, Its very important for me to know!

Kenya is a former british colony, therefore most if not all are conversant with basic english language. However, being conversant with the language is irrelevant in this case. This is the first public televised debate, and we are making baby steps.

...The Obama vs romney debate was much comprehensive in terms of tacklin issues centering around the economy, health-care, food-security, energy-production, job-creation....etc...etc in-addition to other controversies surrounding Obamas government in relation to the kenyan debate that looked more of a "trap". lol

..someone would argue about time constraints, but knowing that 90% of the candidates were tainted, they would have been challenged on real issues that affect kenyans land being one of them.

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Kenya is a former british colony, therefore most if not all are conversant with basic english language. However, being conversant with the language is irrelevant in this case. This is the first public televised debate, and we are making baby steps.

...The Obama vs romney debate was much comprehensive in terms of tacklin issues centering around the economy, health-care, food-security,energy-production....etc...etc in-addition to other controversies surrounding Obamas government in relation to the kenyan debate that looked more of a "trap". lol

Calling my question Irrelevant is being unfair! I asked that cause I wanted to know how many voters were able to follow and understand what were debated about especially in the Villages where majority of the voters live, in other words aren't these debates just another thing for the elite, which wont have any impact on the outcome of the elections?
 
I asked that question, cause I was in Kenya wakati wa kutengeneza Katiba mpya (New constitution), and most of the times they had to use both English and Swahili, and the reason was, according to them, had they used only English language most people would be left out especially wakati wa kutoa maoni (cant put that in english) and that would make the New constitution meaningless as it would only be for the few who could be speak English!

And because of that I really doubt your number, according to my experience I'd put It less than 20% taking into account most Kenyans live in Villages where even Kiswahili is problem leave alone English, think about again 70% is not possible, even within Nairobi it self you still wont get that number!


I have had the experience of living and working in Kenyan 'villages' and what I can tell you is that both English and Kiswahili are taught in school so every person with a primary school education is capable of communicating is relatively well in both languages. In fact in some villages, Kiswahili is 'more prestigious' as it is the language of the urban areas. I believe most voters are under the age of fifty and English wouldn't be a problem to that group. The older geezers don't care about debates or polls or issues. It is personality, party or tribe!
 
I have had the experience of living and working in Kenyan 'villages' and what I can tell you is that both English and Kiswahili are taught in school so every person with a primary school education is capable of communicating is relatively well in both languages. In fact in some villages, Kiswahili is 'more prestigious' as it is the language of the urban areas. I believe most voters are under the age of fifty and English wouldn't be a problem to that group. The older geezers don't care about debates or polls or issues. It is personality, party or tribe!

But the numbers dont agree with you, according to statistics it's ~ 19% of the Kenyan Population that is conversant with an English Language, and that's an official Number from the Kenyan government!
 
Calling my question Irrelevant is being unfair! I asked that cause I wanted to know how many voters were able to follow and understand what were debated about especially in the Villages where majority of the voters live, in other words aren't these debates just another thing for the elite, which wont have any impact on the outcome of the elections?

I agree you might have a point neither did I say your question is irrelevant. You forget that in the villages we have different groups of people, there is a system indeed cultivated there by schools since we recieved independence. To assume that 90% of the populace in rural areas do not understand or cannot percieve current affairs is not fair. All these factors come in handy in determining who carries the day at the end. how information is dispersed or translated in the villages helps determine the outcome.

The debate might be an elitist event, but it helps determine who can and cannot lead the country
 
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