Plato on Leadership

[Unknown1]

While he was treating about leadership, firstly Plato proposes that; states should be governed by philosophers and be a lover of wisdom (searching for knowledge).

What Plato says about leadership ? Leadership is a duty of philosopher kings who acquire the techniques and skills for the art of ruling. An ideal state, Plato says, “can never grow into a reality” until “philosophers become rulers in this world, or until those we now call kings and rulers really and truly become philosophers, and political power and philosophy thus come into the same hands
Why he said so ?

He believed that, 'Only philosophers are morally and intellectually suited to govern and lead. Morally because they are interested in and have a passion for truth and learning, while showing no interest in the temptations of gaining power for the sake of power. Intellectually because they are able to attain knowledge on the ideal forms of virtue, beauty, and the good'

Philosophers as leaders​

Virtue and the good are key to Plato’s view on leadership as an art of ruling. Leaders can attain four cardinal virtues:

• Prudence (as wisdom)
• Justice (as fairness)
• Temperance (as moderation/restraint)
• Courage (as fortitude/resilience)

The “good” refers to the ultimate goal of attaining knowledge, because actions that are “just” add utility and value for others.

My question comes! direct speaking in African context , do we have leadership from our leader(s) or do we have leader(s) out of leadership ?​

Asanteni! karibu

 

[Joseph lebai]

A leader is a visionary person, sometimes we elect a leader without vision.

 

[Washawasha]

A leader is a visionary person, sometimes we elect a leader without vision.

And that is a problem,because we don't know that we vote a leader without Vision.
Vipi ndugu zangu nimejitahidi kidogo kiingereza changu au bado sieleweki?
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[Joseph lebai]

You are okay! Keep it up! Did you study philosophy? Can you say something about"The allegory of the cave, according to Plato?

 

[Unknown1]

And that is a problem,because we don't know that we vote a leader without Vision.
Vipi ndugu zangu nimejitahidi kidogo kiingereza changu au bado sieleweki?
Nalog off

You are okay! Keep it up! Did you study philosophy? Can you say something about"The allegory of the cave, according to Plato?

A leader is a visionary person, sometimes we elect a leader without vision.

Thanks for your knowledge bruh

 

[Unknown1]

And that is a problem,because we don't know that we vote a leader without Vision.
Vipi ndugu zangu nimejitahidi kidogo kiingereza changu au bado sieleweki?
Nalog off

hahahah!! well understood bruh

 

[Washawasha]

hahahah!! well understood bruh

Cheers man
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[Unknown1]

You are okay! Keep it up! Did you study philosophy? Can you say something about"The allegory of the cave, according to Plato?

Yes ,I did!!

Haha! interesting ,.yes I can say in a little bit , I think the main theme of Plato's Allegory of the Cave; (its all about knowledge ;how do person come to know about a true knowledge?) the main idea from the Republican boom ; is that human perception cannot derive true knowledge, and instead, real knowledge can only come via philosophical reasoning(the only trait that differentiate human beings from other animals(rationality)). Plato gave this example; prisoners live their entire lives in a cave, only able to see shadows. To them, these shadows were the reality .....

You can add more brother...and thanks for rewinding me in a three to four years back

 

[Unknown1]

Cheers man
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karibu tena boss

 

[Smart911]

Dah!! Ngoja tuone...

 

[Unknown1]

Dah!! Ngoja tuone...

Mkuu,, uone nin ?

 

[Joseph lebai]

I'm having the same idea, when you are in the cave, if you see a shadow of a tree from outside, you may think the shadow is the reality, but when you come out you see the tree as reality

 

[Unknown1]

I'm having the same idea, when you are in the cave, if you see a shadow of a tree from outside, you may think the shadow is the reality, but when you come out you see the tree as reality

woo! that's great ..did you also took a philosophy ?

 

[Joseph lebai]

I did philosophy partially, since is a kind of wisdom, I like it. I'm trying to meditate about " The world if ideas" can you comment a bit ?

 

[Joseph lebai]

Sorry, not the world if ideas, "The world of ideas"

 

[Unknown1]

Sorry, not the world if ideas, "The world of ideas"

The world of ideas is the philosophical concept or theory ;the most famous philosopher who explained very well is Plato .Plato stated that (in a palaphrazing way) world of ideas is the only reality and this physical world a mere shadow, on the other hand he said that physical things are real to the extent they participate in the world of ideas; in other words all things that are found in the universe (world) are just copies of the real things from the world of ideas/form

That is a nutshell on the world of idea as formally considered to Plato

 

[Joseph lebai]

Well done! what you see is just a photocopy of the reality . But my question is that " where's the world of reality" I think Aristotle criticized about the world of ideas! He didn't agree with Plato.

 

[Unknown1]

Sorry, not the world if ideas, "The world of idea

Well done! what you see is just a photocopy of the reality . But my question is that " where's the world of reality" I think Aristotle criticized about the world of ideas! He didn't agree with Plato.

hahah! the world of reality is the world that we experience(see) in every day of our lives .

Yes, Aristotle didn't agree with Plato's notion on the two entities (reality and form) being existing independently but in term of forms or ideas being a nature/essence of things ,he agreed with Plato.. Aristotle came with the idea of hylomorphicism (matter and form working together and not working independently as what Plato said; that having the world of form and the world of matter) .

FOR Aristotle, the things you see in this world is/are the real things and not copies as what Plato said

What we have to know is that, all other works after Plato,are just a footnotes of Plato's works though they may come in other ways/assertions but still there is point where you can find Plato's idea(s)

 

[Mokaze]

My question comes! direct speaking in African context , do we have leadership from our leader(s) or do we have leader(s) out of leadership ?​

Asanteni!

A leader is named so because there is leadership in him, You would rather argue whether there is leadership in African rulers.

 

[Joseph lebai]

Did you do philosophy for your own interest or you are an Ex. Seminarian (Catholic Church)?