Property Market in DAR...

PanguPakavu said:

Mjasiriamali..,

hawa jamaa wamekutuma?!

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Vipi na wewe umetumwa? I am so impressed with kind of project as a unique development in real estate in our country and so have been trying my best to get more info regarding these developers. If giving out my observations on the project is considered as a string puppet, then am sorry!

Dear Kapinga,

Why on earth would you hope every development is for the poor!? Tanzania is both for the poor and the rich. We need both for the development of the country, just like what you have elsewhere. We wish we did not have poor people and that is what we are working on day and night...But we cannot pretend that the rich do not exist nor desire a particular living. It would utterly be different if the poor were not being considered. I worked for a while in Sweden, UK, and Germany and every mzungu was telling me this particular suggestion is not possible in Tanzania, why? too poor to afford. The only feasible property development that they considered for Tanzania is the swahili type with outside toilet. Are we condoning this attitude? Are we condemning TZ to perpertual poverty. Don't we see it is only a matter of time before we unshackled ourselves from this poverty...I mean with all the gold, uranium, diamonds and wildlife.

I am bitter about this particularly with our diaspora out there who tend to downlook TZ, even to the extent of daring sayig that TZnians have a low thinking rate, they are poor, they cannot develop themselves. We must distinguish between what politicians are doign to this country and what people are doing for themselves. Tanzanians are hardworking people and I can prove this to you, not in towns of course, and not those who live outside the country.

Already you are doubting serious efforts by investors such as the IPI(NOT KAPINGA, BUT other contributors). You need to liase with the TIC, Kinondoni Municipal Council, Project Architects and Managers and a host of other professionals to be able to discern the seriousness of the project. It is probably the only project that has involved so many local professionals in all fields. IPI has already in its payroll permanent staff who are Tanzanians holding academic and professional qualification obtained from within. This is not usually hte case.

Happy New Year

njilembera said:

Dear Kapinga,

Why on earth would you hope every development is for the poor!? Tanzania is both for the poor and the rich. We need both for the development of the country, just like what you have elsewhere. We wish we did not have poor people and that is what we are working on day and night...But we cannot pretend that the rich do not exist nor desire a particular living. It would utterly be different if the poor were not being considered. I worked for a while in Sweden, UK, and Germany and every mzungu was telling me this particular suggestion is not possible in Tanzania, why? too poor to afford. The only feasible property development that they considered for Tanzania is the swahili type with outside toilet. Are we condoning this attitude? Are we condemning TZ to perpertual poverty. Don't we see it is only a matter of time before we unshackled ourselves from this poverty...I mean with all the gold, uranium, diamonds and wildlife.

I am bitter about this particularly with our diaspora out there who tend to downlook TZ, even to the extent of daring sayig that TZnians have a low thinking rate, they are poor, they cannot develop themselves. We must distinguish between what politicians are doign to this country and what people are doing for themselves. Tanzanians are hardworking people and I can prove this to you, not in towns of course, and not those who live outside the country.

Already you are doubting serious efforts by investors such as the IPI(NOT KAPINGA, BUT other contributors). You need to liase with the TIC, Kinondoni Municipal Council, Project Architects and Managers and a host of other professionals to be able to discern the seriousness of the project. It is probably the only project that has involved so many local professionals in all fields. IPI has already in its payroll permanent staff who are Tanzanians holding academic and professional qualification obtained from within. This is not usually hte case.

Happy New Year

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u seem to knw the market nipe pm ya cheap quality housing..coz i knw i cant afford 1500-4000usd a month in rent. Mshahara wenyewe 800usd a month!! no wonder wanasiasa wetu wanavuta when ever possible!!

Mjasiriamalishupavu said:

Nimekuonyesha link uone properties developed by IPI in the UK, still you insist me to show you???????? marvelous!!!!!!!!!!!

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mazee hivi we unaangalia website gani? none of the projects listed on that website have been developed by IPI Ltd!!! hakuna project hata moja iliyojebngwa na hawa wasomali. haya mazee ngoja nikulistie hizo said projects from IPI Ltd website halafu naomba uliambie ni zipi zilizokuwa developed na IPI Ltd:
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The Bar – Newcastle
Property Description: 8 two bedroom, and 2 one bedroom, high spec apartments in a large multi-story purpose built development in the Newcastle town centre.

The apartments include fully fitted kitchens and bathrooms, wood panel flooring, electric central heating, double glazed windows, and spot lighting. Parking for units on the 8th and 9th floors, which have slightly larger more expensive apartments, is provided on site. Additional parking for other floors is provided in a secure facility a bloc from the building and is not specifically allocated to units.

Seven units are fully furnished to high corporate standard including full kitchen, accessory, and entertainment packs.

Terms of Ownership: Leasehold
Developers: Persimmon Homes
Management Company: Trinity Estates

Park Grove – Halifax
Property Description: 3 of 6 flats in a purpose built block comprised of two bedroomed apartments providing luxury accommodation. Accommodation has the benefit of secure gated parking, modern fitted kitchens with appliances, modern bathrooms, central heating and double glazing. The properties provide excellent access to local amenities, Halifax town centre and the M62 motorway network linking the business centres of Manchester and Leeds.

2 of the 3 units are fully furnished to basic corporate standard and the common areas have recently been redecorated.

Terms of Ownership: Leasehold
Developer- N/A
Management Company: Accent Property Solutions

The Reach – Liverpool
Property Description: Nine high spec 2 bedroom apartments in a purpose built multi-story bloc located in the Liverpool city centre. All units have wood panel flooring, spot lighting, fitted kitchens and bathrooms, double glazed windows, electric heating, and allocated parking. All units are furnished.

The property provides secure access and 24 hour reception. The full length windows in all of the units are feature points which capitalize on the views and natural lighting, particularly on the upper floors.

Terms of Ownership: Leasehold
Developers: Sutton Kersh Residential
Management Company: Sutton Kersh Residential
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hizo projects nyingine don't even mention as beng developed by anybody. sasa since we ndo inaelekea unawajua zaidi mishughuliko ya hawa wasomali basi naomba unionyeshe hizo projects manake kwenye website zao ndo kama nilivyokuambia hapo juu hizo projects zimejengwa na watu wengine kabisaa. so the onus is one yu buddy!

njilembera said:

Dear Kapinga,

Why on earth would you hope every development is for the poor!? Tanzania is both for the poor and the rich. We need both for the development of the country, just like what you have elsewhere. We wish we did not have poor people and that is what we are working on day and night...But we cannot pretend that the rich do not exist nor desire a particular living. It would utterly be different if the poor were not being considered. I worked for a while in Sweden, UK, and Germany and every mzungu was telling me this particular suggestion is not possible in Tanzania, why? too poor to afford. The only feasible property development that they considered for Tanzania is the swahili type with outside toilet. Are we condoning this attitude? Are we condemning TZ to perpertual poverty. Don't we see it is only a matter of time before we unshackled ourselves from this poverty...I mean with all the gold, uranium, diamonds and wildlife.

I am bitter about this particularly with our diaspora out there who tend to downlook TZ, even to the extent of daring sayig that TZnians have a low thinking rate, they are poor, they cannot develop themselves. We must distinguish between what politicians are doign to this country and what people are doing for themselves. Tanzanians are hardworking people and I can prove this to you, not in towns of course, and not those who live outside the country.

Already you are doubting serious efforts by investors such as the IPI(NOT KAPINGA, BUT other contributors). You need to liase with the TIC, Kinondoni Municipal Council, Project Architects and Managers and a host of other professionals to be able to discern the seriousness of the project. It is probably the only project that has involved so many local professionals in all fields. IPI has already in its payroll permanent staff who are Tanzanians holding academic and professional qualification obtained from within. This is not usually hte case.

Happy New Year

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and why not hope that every (or majority) of the developments to be for the poor or unprivilaged? yu are talkin bout tanzania having a vast wealth in minerals, tourism etc.... how have all thse wealth benefited a layman today? has the ufisadi brought about as a result of the said wealth benefited a poor man other than the said fisadi leaders of ours?? kwanza hizo minerals zina mwisho wake na zikiisha whatz next? look at kilimanjaro mountain which nowadays the snow is almost completely melting, na sasa ndo hapo hiyo snow itakapokwisha sijui ni wazungu gani wataokuja kuupanda mlima utakaokuwa kama mlima meru. wanyama pori nao ndo wanaisha pole pole thru illegal poaching na kuwa hunted na waarabu kila siku.

mazee doubting developers is part of the game especially kama hakuna historical data backing their claim of doin a project of that magnitude in bongo. sasa kwa nini mtu asiwa-doubt when these suckas who play dice with our $$$ on their deals. tena kama ulivyosema umekaa sana nchi za ng'ambo, then yu know that usually before even a developer commences with any real estate development deal/project , he must have a round table discussion with the locals expaining his intent and benefits of the said project to the locals. so count us as being locals and we need to know these so- called somali developers whjat they are sellin to us

Hivi zile nyumba za wale matapeli mutual developers ziliuzwa zote kule Kigamboni?


kuna mtu kaniambia kuwa cheapest property kule ilikuwa dola LAKI MOJA NA NUSU

Well said!!

Thumbs Up to the ideas wazalendo, Value for money inahusika sana.. hizi inflated flats hata kwetu are in essence jokes for money! It's one of the many reasons why hatupigi hatua kimaendeleo, tamaa!!

The Bubble is bursting and the meltdown will be evident soon! This property market is unrealistic and crazzzzzy!

Bump.............

Any changes in property prices in Dar?

Kana-Ka-Nsungu said:

Tembelea hii website ufurahishe macho yako kwenye bei za nyumba na viwanja- Houses and apartments for sale in Tanzania.

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...huu ni wendawazimu,residential plot masaki 2.3m USD?

Something coming on this, very soon!

Invisible said:

Something coming on this, very soon!

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wats coming?

i saw a small 2 bedroom house salasala goin for 600$ a month! it didnt make sense at all...hakuna duka within a mile, usalama juu yako...
this is problem kwa kweli!

Kapinga said:

wats coming?

i saw a small 2 bedroom house salasala goin for 600$ a month! it didnt make sense at all...hakuna duka within a mile, usalama juu yako...
this is problem kwa kweli!

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Well zile za mlimani city nasikia ni 3,000 usd per month, na kwamba hapo zilipo ni overbooked! nilibaki mdomo wazi, kumbe bongo kuna watu wana pesa!

Hivi kuna mtu anajua kwa nini SUMAR VARMA hawana jengo lao hapa mjini?

wao wamengangania pale NIC na kazi wanapata left and right

By the way nimepata habari one of them Patels anataka kujenga 50 storey TOWER PALE OPPOSITE na ubalozi wa Kenya na hkuna aliyemzuia

This is scandalous kwa sababu itaharibu mandari ya eneoe lote lile...kwa nini asijenge mjini?

meanwhile wakati sisi hatutaki kuamua kuhusus Kigamboni au mipango miji wenzetu kule BANGALORE India wanafanya kweli





Construction status photos: [photo cc sudheeshnairs]

Tulitakiwa tujenge kitu kama hichi ALI HASSAN MWINYI all the way mpaka BUNJU ili kuondoa msongamano

Hivi mnajua kama Viva Tower ilikuwa sold out within 4 hours?

this overpricing bubble is about to bust soon in bongo. hata sasa hivi wale walionunua nyumba kule kigamboni as investments can't get applicable rentals to sustain their mortgages. let's wait and see.