Sammuel999
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No you may notMay a stanger enter the discussion? I would at the earlest opportunity argue that Kenya is the wrong example to use. Nobody was able to vote out (not merely recall) a Kenyan President, and never will, because the Kikuyu's and Kalenjins form 60% of the population and things are done strictly on tribal grounds. Raila Odinga appears a hardworking and honourable man but even he has never dented the tribal sphinx. Come to that, if he WERE to puncture it, he would in turn solidify his tribal alliance by inviting oddlots from thr Coast and on the Tanzania border with largese. Best example for us is India and the USA: they do not have or need a recall clause. Secondly, and without prejudice to the aforesaid, I fail to understand when you lament that Parliament made id difficult to implement the recall clause. Why is this? You want every tom dick and harry to recall the MP just like that? If being an MP is kumbe so trifling, why are we debating it at all? Finally, would you ever envisage a situation whereby the people were free to recall a judge? Why oy why not?
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Kikuyus are 22% of the Kenyan population whereas the kalenjin are 12%. How the two add up to 60% I've no idea.May a stanger enter the discussion? I would at the earlest opportunity argue that Kenya is the wrong example to use. Nobody was able to vote out (not merely recall) a Kenyan President, and never will, because the Kikuyu's and Kalenjins form 60% of the population and things are done strictly on tribal grounds. Raila Odinga appears a hardworking and honourable man but even he has never dented the tribal sphinx. Come to that, if he WERE to puncture it, he would in turn solidify his tribal alliance by inviting oddlots from thr Coast and on the Tanzania border with largese. Best example for us is India and the USA: they do not have or need a recall clause. Secondly, and without prejudice to the aforesaid, I fail to understand when you lament that Parliament made id difficult to implement the recall clause. Why is this? You want every tom dick and harry to recall the MP just like that? If being an MP is kumbe so trifling, why are we debating it at all? Finally, would you ever envisage a situation whereby the people were free to recall a judge? Why oy why not?
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Hapa I disagree with you 100%. Watu wenye akili kama yako ndio hatutaki hii Kenya. So hawa wajinga hata they have not been sworn in na washaanza kudemand salary increase ndio unawatetea? I disagree with you 100%. You have a right to your opinion though and I respect it.May a stanger enter the discussion? I would at the earlest opportunity argue that Kenya is the wrong example to use. Nobody was able to vote out (not merely recall) a Kenyan President, and never will, because the Kikuyu's and Kalenjins form 60% of the population and things are done strictly on tribal grounds. Raila Odinga appears a hardworking and honourable man but even he has never dented the tribal sphinx. Come to that, if he WERE to puncture it, he would in turn solidify his tribal alliance by inviting oddlots from thr Coast and on the Tanzania border with largese. Best example for us is India and the USA: they do not have or need a recall clause. Secondly, and without prejudice to the aforesaid, I fail to understand when you lament that Parliament made id difficult to implement the recall clause. Why is this? You want every tom dick and harry to recall the MP just like that? If being an MP is kumbe so trifling, why are we debating it at all? Finally, would you ever envisage a situation whereby the people were free to recall a judge? Why oy why not?
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Sam ukisoma the first prayer that was not granted this is what it means according to my understanding: It simply means the court supported the greedy MPs position that " MPs cannot be recalled less than 2 years after the election" which means obviously we would have to wait for 2 years to recall these pigs. But I want to hear your interpretation
Finally, I agree this is a good move, however I hope the b*llshit that iebc did with Okoa Kenya will not happen here. Remember iebc rubished more than a million signatures for Okoa Kenya. I don't know whether iebc will be required to verify the signatures and if so, will they be honest or will they pull the same stunt again? I know u may not have answers but these are important questions
I thinks its prior to two years ....nimeisoma lakini bado cjaelewa properly ....but this is nice recall will make them work and stop stealing cause now ukiiba watu wako watakutoa chap chap!!...kutakuwa na opposition mkali toka home ground ....lets wait for the gazettement ndio we see the whole law heheSam ukisoma the first prayer that was not granted this is what it means according to my understanding: It simply means the court supported the greedy MPs position that " MPs cannot be recalled less than 2 years after the election" which means obviously we would have to wait for 2 years to recall these pigs. But I want to hear your interpretation
Ya Recall huwa kali .....this will be a way for opposition to gain majority juu once they realize you can recall wataenda kwa county ambazo wana supporters but mp ni wa another party and try and recal as many as possible kama mid terms za USA na Afrika Kusini zilivyo!!!....this will make sure you work ....i like this law cause it will put people in check now mps will be working around the clock ....i see casualties wa kwanza ni huyoFinally, I agree this is a good move, however I hope the b*llshit that iebc did with Okoa Kenya will not happen here. Remember iebc rubished more than a million signatures for Okoa Kenya. I don't know whether iebc will be required to verify the signatures and if so, will they be honest or will they pull the same stunt again? I know u may not have answers but these are important questions
On my part i was glad Okoa Kenya failed cuz it was just a sneaky way to engineer another election.Some folks would like us to be in perpetual elections mode 24/7 and i can assure you that wasn't about "saving Kenya" .Sasa unaona IEBC is not honest but you neither see nor question the dishonesty of Okoa Kenya folks ? And these elections/referendums ain't cheap either ,the last election just cost a whopping $500m .Finally, I agree this is a good move, however I hope the b*llshit that iebc did with Okoa Kenya will not happen here. Remember iebc rubished more than a million signatures for Okoa Kenya. I don't know whether iebc will be required to verify the signatures and if so, will they be honest or will they pull the same stunt again? I know u may not have answers but these are important questions
See ....skewed on just opposing NASA kila kornaOn my part i was glad Okoa Kenya failed cuz it was just a sneaky way to engineer another election.Some folks would like us to be in perpetual elections mode 24/7 and i can assure you that wasn't about "saving Kenya" .Sasa unaona IEBC is not honest but you neither see nor question the dishonesty of Okoa Kenya folks ? And these elections/referendums ain't cheap either ,the last election just cost a whopping $500m .
Raila is honourable ....ask Miguna Miguna n you il be shockedMay a stanger enter the discussion? I would at the earlest opportunity argue that Kenya is the wrong example to use. Nobody was able to vote out (not merely recall) a Kenyan President, and never will, because the Kikuyu's and Kalenjins form 60% of the population and things are done strictly on tribal grounds. Raila Odinga appears a hardworking and honourable man but even he has never dented the tribal sphinx. Come to that, if he WERE to puncture it, he would in turn solidify his tribal alliance by inviting oddlots from thr Coast and on the Tanzania border with largese. Best example for us is India and the USA: they do not have or need a recall clause. Secondly, and without prejudice to the aforesaid, I fail to understand when you lament that Parliament made id difficult to implement the recall clause. Why is this? You want every tom dick and harry to recall the MP just like that? If being an MP is kumbe so trifling, why are we debating it at all? Finally, would you ever envisage a situation whereby the people were free to recall a judge? Why oy why not?
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