Stiegler's Gorge: The true cost of power

Sophist · May 30, 2018

"It is surprising that Odebrecht, although an experienced international developer with an awareness of environmental and social issues and the associated risks to a project, would rely solely on Tanzanian consulting firms and government agencies with little experience and conflicting interests to handle this side of the project. It is also surprising that the Tanzanian government would put at risk protected areas of this quality, when there are multiple other power supply options, including other hydropower sites, with similar costs and lower risks.

IUCN, the UNESCO World Heritage Centre, and the Ramsar Convention Secretariat have an opportunity to assist the Tanzanian government in taking better care of these exceptional sites, and basing strategic energy development decisions on better information. The IUCN/UNESCO mission should encourage government to share the currently available information, in order to allow additional expert input, to open up a dialogue with the Ramsar secretariat, and to consider alternatives to Stiegler’s Gorge".

Who is to care these bullying, contemptuous, simplistic and unconcerned Eurocentric notions? Not Tanzanians!

Ciril · May 30, 2018

Yonni Jr said:
Mradi wa sglas Goerge utatuepusha na wezi wanaoinyonya Tanesco 400m na 200 m kila sku...i.e IPTL..SYMBION and Co ambao ndio wanatumia nguvu kubwa kuwalipa wanasiasa na member wengne huku ili kuupga vta hu mradi...USA mwenyewe hayo mambo ya kijinga ya mazngra alishajtoa...na Ata Ethiopia mradi wao mkubwa wa bwawa la umeme walitumia ela zao za ndan baada ha wazungu ambao ndio wenye haya makampun ya kuuza umeme kwa bei kubwa kuwachongea kwa nchi zao na mashrka makubwa wakanymwa pesa...katika eneo ambalo namuunga mkono JPM kwa 100% ni kwenye mradi huu wa stglas Gorge mradi alianzsha Nyerere ila kuanzia awamu ya pili walioingia wizara ya Nishati wakaleta IPTL wakauzka huu mrad kwa vsngzio vya kijinga na wakaanza kuinyonya Tanesco toka 1990's adi leo...nchi hii ina mapori mengi icho kieneo kinachoguswa selous ata akikarbii robo ya selous (Hiyo World heritage ilishasaidiaga nini mwananchi wa kawaida zaidi ya ukolon mamno leo)na wengi wanaopga kelele ata selous hawaijui..wakiwemo wanasiasa na wanaoshnda huku kupnga mradi..ila wanamezeshwa madessa fake na makampuni yanayouzia Tanesco umeme wa mafuta mazito kama SYMBION...IPTL ..n co ambao wanajua stiglas gorge ndio mwsho wa unyonyaji wao...mtu analipwa 400m kwa kuweka jenereta Tegeta na ubungo ata kama ajazalisha umeme huo ni upuuzi

Kwani mlishikiwa (kulazimishwa) Bunduki ku'Sign hiyo Mikataba ?. Kosa mfanye wenyewe kwa tamaa zenu na Wizi mlio jijengea halafu leo mje mlalamike na blah blah kama hiz hapa ?

Nikukumbushe tu kwa Wizi wenu huo wa kuingia Mikataba ya kinyonyaji ,anae umia zaidi ni Wananchi Masikini mnao jitapa kuwatetea kila uchwao..

alberaps · May 30, 2018

kabombe said:
wazungu bana!
Mbona wamarekani wamejitoa kwenye mkataba wa udhibiti uchafuzi wa mazingira,ili waendelee kuharibu dunia kwa maslahi ya marekani hawafuatiliwi tunafuatiliwa watanzania
Huu mradi unaogopwa sana kwa sababu utatuondoa kabisa katika matatizo ya umeme walau kwa miaka 50 ijayo

Wakati wa Gesi Mlituambia Itatutoa Kwenye Shida Ya umeme Milele.

alberaps · May 30, 2018

JUAN MANUEL said:
MTU mweupe hana jema kabisa kuhusu Africa,
Sudani wameigawanya Mara mbili,cameron,IPO vipande viwili wanaozungumza kifaransa(Franco phone)na wanaozungumza English(Anglo phone),Libya wameivuruga kabisa,walitaka hata Syria ifate mkondo ule ule,shukrani kwa Warusi,wakazuhia hii,richa ya kwamba na wao ni majizi tu,
Ukitaka Wa magharibi wakuelewe inabidi uwe na akili kama za North Korea,Vietnam,ukijipendekeza kwao wanakuaribu kabisa,hawajari kabisa,hata wazungu wwnzao wa Greece,wanawaperekesha na masharti kibao ya kuinua uchumi,
Nikiona mzungu anaona uchungu kwa jambo linalofanyika Africa,hayo huwa ni machozi ya mamba tu,na unafiki mtupu,kama wanatuonea huruma,walete viwanda vyao huku vya magari,vya umeme,na tekinolojia watupe bile,

Kama Hujui Tofauti Ya R Na L nani Atakuamini Huu utumbo ulioandika Hapa?

Yonni Jr · May 30, 2018

Ciril said:
Kwani mlishikiwa (kulazimishwa) Bunduki ku'Sign hiyo Mikataba ?. Kosa mfanye wenyewe kwa tamaa zenu na Wizi mlio jijengea halafu leo mje mlalamike na blah blah kama hiz hapa ?

Nikukumbushe tu kwa Wizi wenu huo wa kuingia Mikataba ya kinyonyaji ,anae umia zaidi ni Wananchi Masikini mnao jitapa kuwatetea kila uchwao..

Mbona mnaupnga sasa.???Pro western?....Ndio maana sasa tunataka apone mwananchi wa chini...son of servants...Mtanzania yeyote anayepnga mradi wa stglas Gorge naamini haitakii mema nchi yetu nzuri ya Tanzania kwa 100% na vizazi vijavyo...kifupi naamini ni kibaraka au anatumiwa na wenye makampuni yanayonyonya Tanesco kwa umeme wa bei ya juu

jingalao · May 30, 2018

piga uwa garagaza lazima umeme wa stieglers upatikane

Kibanga Ampiga Mkoloni · May 31, 2018

Dr Akili said:
Yaani unataka mifugo ipunguzwe? Akili ya wapi hiyo. Hujui mifugo ndiyo uchumi wa nchi na kipato cha wananchi walio wengi? Mbona husemi na wewe kipato chako kipunguzwe? Mifugo inapaswa iongezeke na iwe bora zaidi. Maeneo ya kuchungia yanapaswa yaongezwe na kupunguza hayo maeneo ya mbuga za nyumbu!

Tulia uelewe na fuatilia matukio ya TZ hasa Bungeni kinachoendelea, wabunge wantaka Mbuga na hifadhi zipunguzwe malisho yaongezeke. Serekali na baadhi ya MACCM hayataki.

Dr Akili · Jun 1, 2018

Kibanga Ampiga Mkoloni said:
Tulia uelewe na fuatilia matukio ya TZ hasa Bungeni kinachoendelea, wabunge wantaka Mbuga na hifadhi zipunguzwe malisho yaongezeke. Serekali na baadhi ya MACCM hayataki.

Serikali ilishaanza kupunguza baadhi ya maeneo ya hifadhi za wanyama pori na kuyatoa kwa shughuli za kijamii zikiwemo za wafugaji na kuzalisha umeme wa maji.

Erythrocyte · Jun 1, 2018

stroke said:
Nimeambulia porojo tu hamna lolote la maana kwenye hiyo article

Mungu wabariki wazungu

Cannibal OX · Jun 1, 2018

kabombe said:
wazungu bana!
Mbona wamarekani wamejitoa kwenye mkataba wa udhibiti uchafuzi wa mazingira,ili waendelee kuharibu dunia kwa maslahi ya marekani hawafuatiliwi tunafuatiliwa watanzania
Huu mradi unaogopwa sana kwa sababu utatuondoa kabisa katika matatizo ya umeme walau kwa miaka 50 ijayo

Well said

Allineando · Jun 8, 2018

Disaster huu ufalme wa mbinguni Looh

Allineando · Jun 8, 2018

kuna
alternatives
less impactfull
project that could generate
similar Quantity of
power...why selous???

viking · Jun 8, 2018

Yonni Jr said:
Mradi wa sglas Goerge utatuepusha na wezi wanaoinyonya Tanesco 400m na 200 m kila sku...i.e IPTL..SYMBION and Co ambao ndio wanatumia nguvu kubwa kuwalipa wanasiasa na member wengne huku ili kuupga vta hu mradi...USA mwenyewe hayo mambo ya kijinga ya mazngra alishajtoa...na Ata Ethiopia mradi wao mkubwa wa bwawa la umeme walitumia ela zao za ndan baada ha wazungu ambao ndio wenye haya makampun ya kuuza umeme kwa bei kubwa kuwachongea kwa nchi zao na mashrka makubwa wakanymwa pesa...katika eneo ambalo namuunga mkono JPM kwa 100% ni kwenye mradi huu wa stglas Gorge mradi alianzsha Nyerere ila kuanzia awamu ya pili walioingia wizara ya Nishati wakaleta IPTL wakauzka huu mrad kwa vsngzio vya kijinga na wakaanza kuinyonya Tanesco toka 1990's adi leo...nchi hii ina mapori mengi icho kieneo kinachoguswa selous ata akikarbii robo ya selous (Hiyo World heritage ilishasaidiaga nini mwananchi wa kawaida zaidi ya ukolon mamno leo)na wengi wanaopga kelele ata selous hawaijui..wakiwemo wanasiasa na wanaoshnda huku kupnga mradi..ila wanamezeshwa madessa fake na makampuni yanayouzia Tanesco umeme wa mafuta mazito kama SYMBION...IPTL ..n co ambao wanajua stiglas gorge ndio mwsho wa unyonyaji wao...mtu analipwa 400m kwa kuweka jenereta Tegeta na ubungo ata kama ajazalisha umeme huo ni upuuzi

Mikataba mmesaini wenyewe

IROKOS · Jun 8, 2018

kabombe said:
wazungu bana!
Mbona wamarekani wamejitoa kwenye mkataba wa udhibiti uchafuzi wa mazingira,ili waendelee kuharibu dunia kwa maslahi ya marekani hawafuatiliwi tunafuatiliwa watanzania
Huu mradi unaogopwa sana kwa sababu utatuondoa kabisa katika matatizo ya umeme walau kwa miaka 50 ijayo

Jadili hoja kwa hoja.... Hizo ngonjera tupa kuleee bring your arguments here

IROKOS · Jun 8, 2018

Econometrician said:
Acha kuwaonea wazungu! hata huo mradi mnao taka kufanya kuanzia technolojia,maarifa,mitambo mpaka uendeshaji kwa 98% unawategemea hao wazungu,insu kubwa hapa ni kwa nini serikali ya CCM inharibu fedha nyingi kwa miradi ambayo haina vichwa wala miguu.

Kwa mujibu wa hiyo article kupata funds za ku finance huo mradi ni ndoto....

samurai · Jun 8, 2018

Wazungu wamekata miti yoote huko kwao sasa hawataki sisi tukate huku ili wafaidi upepo kutokea pande hizi... Wao wamekata miti kujenga maviwanda, mashule, mahospitali huku wakitegemea upepo kutokea huku... Acha tuikate tu dunia iwe jangwa maana kama wangefahamu hili wasingekata miti huko kwao zamani...Hapa kazi tu, kata miti jenga stieggler gorge..

Yonni Jr · Jun 9, 2018

So unataka nchi iendelee kuibiwa?

viking said:
Mikataba mmesaini wenyewe

Chinga One · Jun 9, 2018

samurai said:
Wazungu wamekata miti yoote huko kwao sasa hawataki sisi tukate huku ili wafaidi upepo kutokea pande hizi... Wao wamekata miti kujenga maviwanda, mashule, mahospitali huku wakitegemea upepo kutokea huku... Acha tuikate tu dunia iwe jangwa maana kama wangefahamu hili wasingekata miti huko kwao zamani...Hapa kazi tu, kata miti jenga stieggler gorge..

Usikute huyu jamaa amesoma na ana digrii kabisa😀😀😀😀😀

samurai · Jun 9, 2018

Chinga One said:
Usikute huyu jamaa amesoma na ana digrii kabisa😀😀😀😀😀

Mkuu kwani hili linahitaji degree au shule?? hapana akili ndogo kabisa ya kuzaliwa inahitajika.

Ulaya yoote miti ilishikatwa wakajenga viwanda, wao ndio wanaongoza kuharibu ozone layer kwa kuzalisha hewa chafu na kemikali mbalimbali.. Wao pia ndio wanaofadhili wildlife conservation huku Africa, unajua kwanini?? Jibu ni rahisi tu sisi tutunze urithi wa dunia na misitu wao wajenge viwanda kwao, Tanzania mapoli yako meengi mno hivo hilo likiondoka sio tatizo mamba na viboko watabaki mtoni..simba na wenzie watajisogeza selou au poli kwa poli mpaka mikumi..Permanent solution kwetu kwenye suala la umeme ni hii hivyo watuache kwanza.. Ujerumani wanaviwanda vya kutosha huko mapolini baada ya kuharibu mapoli meengi mno..

Stiegler's Gorge: The true cost of power

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