Tanzania again has done it

joto la jiwe · Aug 29, 2018

kennedy0000 said:
Which one is that and does it beat Aga Khan Heart and Cancer Centre?
Enda usome hapa - Heart & Cancer Centre

Then tell me what is offered in your hospital that Aga Khan does not.

Aga Khan Heart and Cancer centre is the biggest in the region. If you have evidence to the contrary, bring it.
And in which hospital is cancer treatment free? Bring the link.

That hospital is just a fancy building with nothing inside. Even Moi Teaching and Referal in Eldoret has better equipment.

Kenya has been performing kidney transplants since mid 2000s. I don't know the number of locations, but the volume is more. By virtue of more equipment and more qualified personnel.

You have zero evidence for this.

According to the World Health organization, the Tanzanian doctor-to-patient ratio stands at 1 doctor for every 20,000 patients. In Kenya, it's 1 doctor for every 16,000. The recommended doctor-patient ratio is one to 300.

Tanzania Doctors to Help Kenya Recover from Health Sector Strike

In Kenya private hospitals are better equipped (specialized) than public. But public hospitals are also comparably better equipped than Tanzanian public hospitals. We have over 30 government hospitals in Kenya that would be in your top 10.

I've been to, or heard of many medical fundraisers, and never once has a Tanzanian hospital come up.

http://www.kenyacardiacs.org/downlo...m 0 to 100 in 6 seconds - Mohammed JANABI.pdf
Hii link ni ya Kenya cardiologists association wanaizungumzis JKCI na kujaribu kuomba Masada ili Tanzanian isaidie Kenya katika eneo hill. Kamwe usilinganishe JKCI na Agakhan Nairobi, JKCI inafanyia upasuaji wagonjwa 1000 kwa mwaka wakati Agakhan hata 300 haijafikisha.

Kuhusu cancer treatment kuwa free of charge Tanzania, Tafadhali refer katika ile article inayozungumzia wakenya kuvuka mpaka kuja kufuata cancer treatment usome sababu zinazowafanya wakenya wavuke mpaka, moja ya sababu ni kwamba Treatment of cancer in Tanzania ni free.

Kuhusu idadi ya doctors wanaozalishwa Tanzania Vs Kenya, tafadhali tembelea google utajionea wewe mwenyewe.

Jambo linalojitpkeza wazi hapa ni kwamba tunashindanisha private Hospitals za Kenya na Government Hospitals za Tanzania, na bado private Hospitals zenu haziwezi fikia public hospitals za Tanzania.

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tuusan · Aug 29, 2018

kennedy0000 said:
What does a strike have to do with better health care services? You truly are retarded.
In any case, if your doctors came here, they would have been earning triple the salary.

Fact 1: Kenya has a smaller population and a higher health budget than Tanzania.
Fact 2: Kenya has at least 4 Linac machines. Tanzania has 0.
Fact 3: Kenya has 1 PET machine. Tanzania has 0.
Fact 4: Lowest paid Kenyan doctor earns $1500. Lowest paid Tanzanian doctor earns $500.
Fact 5: KNH, Aga Khan Nairobi, Nairobi hospital etc. have been overloaded by Tanzanians and Ugandans. Aga Khan even has a dedicated service for 'foreigners'.
Fact 6: Kenya has a better doctor to population ratio than Tanzania.

To be honest, I don't even know what the debate is about. There is not a single aspect or statistic that you're ahead of Kenya. Arguing the whole day won't change that.

Here's another one I had missed. Aga Khan Nairobi also has a Linac machine.

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Fact no4 Ni uzushi mtupu,analipwa $700

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Sky Eclat · Aug 29, 2018

jogi said:
Kumbe John McCain amekufa kizembe tu wakati huku tiba yake bongo ipo!!!

Wewe jamaa wewe

jogi · Aug 29, 2018

henry kilenga said:
wapinzani watasema hayo hayana maana kama bibi zao hawana maji safi

Kuna ukweli unauongea kwa dharau sana, sawa na mtu kumcheka maiti hali ya kuwa naye ni maiti mtarajiwa

kennedy0000 · Aug 29, 2018

joto la jiwe said:
http://www.kenyacardiacs.org/downloads/06 Cardiology at JK Institute Dar Es Salaam - From 0 to 100 in 6 seconds - Mohammed JANABI.pdf
Hii link ni ya Kenya cardiologists association wanaizungumzis JKCI na kujaribu kuomba Masada ili Tanzanian isaidie Kenya katika eneo hill. Kamwe usilinganishe JKCI na Agakhan Nairobi, JKCI inafanyia upasuaji wagonjwa 1000 kwa mwaka wakati Agakhan hata 300 haijafikisha.

Kuhusu cancer treatment kuwa free of charge Tanzania, Tafadhali refer katika ile article inayozungumzia wakenya kuvuka mpaka kuja kufuata cancer treatment usome sababu zinazowafanya wakenya wavuke mpaka, moja ya sababu ni kwamba Treatment of cancer in Tanzania ni free.

Kuhusu idadi ya doctors wanaozalishwa Tanzania Vs Kenya, tafadhali tembelea google utajionea wewe mwenyewe.

Jambo linalojitpkeza wazi hapa ni kwamba tunashindanisha private Hospitals za Kenya na Government Hospitals za Tanzania, na bado private Hospitals zenu haziwezi fikia public hospitals za Tanzania.

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Kwa hiyo PDF, capabilities na equipment za hio JKCI hazijaandikwa. Kwa hivo yote unayosema haina basis. As far as we know, inaweza kuwa tu jumba kubwa lililo na mashine mbili na vitanda elfu moja.

Hakuna popote ambapo cancer treatment ni free Tanzania. In fact, wagonjwa wamekuwa wakilalamika venye bei imekuwa ikipanda.
Cancer patients dig deeper to pay for treatment at the ORCI

Idadi ya madaktari nimekupa link lakini ndio hii tena. - Tanzania Doctors to Help Kenya Recover from Health Sector Strike

Tanzania 1:20,000
Kenya 1:16,000

Jambo linalo jidhibitisha wazi ni kwamba zile mashine zote zimo Tanzania, already kunazo Kenya.
Ilhali, Kenya kuna mashine aina mingi ambazo bado kufika Tanzania.

joto la jiwe · Aug 29, 2018

kennedy0000 said:
Kwa hiyo PDF, capabilities na equipment za hio JKCI hazijaandikwa. Kwa hivo yote unayosema haina basis. As far as we know, inaweza kuwa tu jumba kubwa lililo na mashine mbili na vitanda elfu moja.

Hakuna popote ambapo cancer treatment ni free Tanzania. In fact, wagonjwa wamekuwa wakilalamika venye bei imekuwa ikipanda.
Cancer patients dig deeper to pay for treatment at the ORCI

Idadi ya madaktari nimekupa link lakini ndio hii tena. - Tanzania Doctors to Help Kenya Recover from Health Sector Strike

Tanzania 1:20,000
Kenya 1:16,000

Jambo linalo jidhibitisha wazi ni kwamba zile mashine zote zimo Tanzania, already kunazo Kenya.
Ilhali, Kenya kuna mashine aina mingi ambazo bado kufika Tanzania.

http://www.thecitizen.co.tz/News/Go...loy--study/1840340-3264502-mhxcp5z/index.html
Wewe huna akili unanipotezea muda bure, mimi ninazungumza kuhusu idadi ya madaktari wanaozalishwa kwa mwaka, wewe unazungumzia idadi ya walioajiriwa hospitalini, stupid kabisa wewe

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joto la jiwe · Aug 29, 2018

kennedy0000 said:
Kwa hiyo PDF, capabilities na equipment za hio JKCI hazijaandikwa. Kwa hivo yote unayosema haina basis. As far as we know, inaweza kuwa tu jumba kubwa lililo na mashine mbili na vitanda elfu moja.

Hakuna popote ambapo cancer treatment ni free Tanzania. In fact, wagonjwa wamekuwa wakilalamika venye bei imekuwa ikipanda.
Cancer patients dig deeper to pay for treatment at the ORCI

Idadi ya madaktari nimekupa link lakini ndio hii tena. - Tanzania Doctors to Help Kenya Recover from Health Sector Strike

Tanzania 1:20,000
Kenya 1:16,000

Jambo linalo jidhibitisha wazi ni kwamba zile mashine zote zimo Tanzania, already kunazo Kenya.
Ilhali, Kenya kuna mashine aina mingi ambazo bado kufika Tanzania.

http://ihi.eprints.org/791/1/MoHSW.pdf_(14).pdf
Nimekuambia wagonjwa wa cancer hawalipii matibabu Tanzania, sawa na TB na HIV, haya tunayaita chronic diseases serikali inagharimia, hii ni Tanzanian inawajali wananchi wake, some pg4 juu ya hiyo picha, sisi sio man eat man Kama ninyi.

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kennedy0000 · Aug 30, 2018

joto la jiwe said:
http://ihi.eprints.org/791/1/MoHSW.pdf_(14).pdf
Nimekuambia wagonjwa wa cancer hawalipii matibabu Tanzania, sawa na TB na HIV, haya tunayaita chronic diseases serikali inagharimia, hii ni Tanzanian inawajali wananchi wake, some pg4 juu ya hiyo picha, sisi sio man eat man Kama ninyi.

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Hakuna pahali cancer imeandikwa ni free kwa hio PDF.
Cancer treatment is very expensive in Tanzania. Just like Kenya. Na wagonjwa wanalia kila siku.

TB na HIV treatment are also free in Kenya.

kennedy0000 · Aug 30, 2018

joto la jiwe said:
Govt trains more doctors than it can employ: study
Wewe huna akili unanipotezea muda bure, mimi ninazungumza kuhusu idadi ya madaktari wanaozalishwa kwa mwaka, wewe unazungumzia idadi ya walioajiriwa hospitalini, stupid kabisa wewe

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Wacha kunipotezea muda pia. Your government is not employing them because it has no money.
Ata hapa Kenya kuna excess doctors not absorbed by the government yet. Nothing new there.

joto la jiwe · Aug 31, 2018

kennedy0000 said:
Wacha kunipotezea muda pia. Your government is not employing them because it has no money.
Ata hapa Kenya kuna excess doctors not absorbed by the government yet. Nothing new there.

Revealed: 40pc doctors ditch profession yearly
Soma paragraph no. 14 no 15 ndio utagundua Tanzania sio level yenu.

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joto la jiwe · Aug 31, 2018

kennedy0000 said:
Hakuna pahali cancer imeandikwa ni free kwa hio PDF.
Cancer treatment is very expensive in Tanzania. Just like Kenya. Na wagonjwa wanalia kila siku.

TB na HIV treatment are also free in Kenya.

Shortages and late diagnosis hamper cancer treatment in Dar es Salaam
Paragraph 7, proves that Tanzania sio man eat man country like Kenya, we treat all cancer Victims free of charge, sasa Kama unasema matibabu ya cancer ni ghali sana serikali haiwezi kugharimia, je mwananchi wa kawaida ataweza?. Kwa kujua kwamba cancer treatment is very expensive majority can't afford that's why Tanzania government decided to make it free of charge, that's why a lot of Kenyans do cross border for free treatment(Paragraph 3).

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joto la jiwe · Aug 31, 2018

kennedy0000 said:
Hakuna pahali cancer imeandikwa ni free kwa hio PDF.
Cancer treatment is very expensive in Tanzania. Just like Kenya. Na wagonjwa wanalia kila siku.

TB na HIV treatment are also free in Kenya.

http://www.thecitizen.co.tz/News/Ca...r-treatment/1840340-3164016-f6yw96/index.html
Wewe hata kiingereza pia ni tatizo?, paragraph 7 imekishinda kuielewa?. Usilinganishe tena Kenya Tanzania katika sector ya Afya. We are far ahead of you.

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willyTrinidad · Aug 31, 2018

joto la jiwe said:
Cancer patients cross into TZ for treatment
Wewe hata kiingereza pia ni tatizo?, paragraph 7 imekishinda kuielewa?. Usilinganishe tena Kenya Tanzania katika sector ya Afya. We are far ahead of you.

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calm down utapata tabu sana. Tanzania is far behind Kenya in anything & everything you can think of. Don’t fool yourself. Tazama how every sentence about Tanzania starts with “one of the poorest countries in the world”.

Tz 1 doc per 30,000
KE 1 doc per 5,000

Health care quality in Africa: Uganda, Nigeria, Tanzania, Zambia, Kenya, Zimbabwe and South Africa | Aetna International

joto la jiwe · Aug 31, 2018

willyTrinidad said:
calm down utapata tabu sana. Tanzania is far behind Kenya in anything & everything you can think of. Don’t fool yourself. Tazama how every sentence about Tanzania starts with “one of the poorest countries in the world”.

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Tz 1 doc per 30,000
KE 1 doc per 5,000

Health care quality in Africa: Uganda, Nigeria, Tanzania, Zambia, Kenya, Zimbabwe and South Africa | Aetna International

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nusuhela · Aug 31, 2018

henry kilenga said:
wapinzani watasema hayo hayana maana kama bibi zao hawana maji safi

Upo sahihi kabisa. Unampa mtu maji taka ili aumwe umtibu ujisifie?

Lwiva · Aug 31, 2018

kennedy0000 said:
We have it in every county under the managed equipment programme. 47 hospitals at least.

I've never heard of any Kenyan coming to Tanzania for specialized treatment. But Nairobi hospitals are full of Tanzanians and Ugandans. Especially your politicians.

Kenya population - 50 million
Tanzania population - 60 million

Kenya's health budget 2018 (national government) - Ksh 60 billion
Tanzania health budget 2018 - Ksh 40 billion

Case closed. You are LDC and will always trail Kenya in everything. The machines you hear in your media are being bought arrived in Kenya years ago with little fanfare.

How Much Of Kenya’s Budget Is Going Towards The Health Sector?
Tanzania: Govt Lowers Health Budget By 19% Amid Missed Targets

Wakenya hiyo budget ya ksh 60 + ufisadi = Ksh 28 Bil ndiyo maana wakenya wanashindwa kuelewa kwanini serikali ya tz inaweza kufanya miladi mikubwa Kwa fedha zake na kununua ndege cash huku Kenya aiwezi sababu ni hii
EVER 100KSH = 100KSH - UFISADI = KSH 30
This means ufisadi ni 70% ya kila shilingi ya kenya

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nusuhela · Aug 31, 2018

henry kilenga said:
wapinzani watasema hayo hayana maana kama bibi zao hawana maji safi

Kinga ni bora kuliko tiba

Lwiva · Aug 31, 2018

kennedy0000 said:
Hakuna pahali cancer imeandikwa ni free kwa hio PDF.
Cancer treatment is very expensive in Tanzania. Just like Kenya. Na wagonjwa wanalia kila siku.

TB na HIV treatment are also free in Kenya.

Acha ubishi matibabu ya kansa hapa Tanzania ni free

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ISIS · Aug 31, 2018

jogi said:
Kumbe John McCain amekufa kizembe tu wakati huku tiba yake bongo ipo!!!

Mpuuzi wewe

ISIS · Aug 31, 2018

lwiva said:
Acha ubishi matibabu ya kansa hapa Tanzania ni free

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True!
Mijitu mingine wao ni negative attitude tu walahi!

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