Tumuelewe Kiranga!.

Wick · Mar 16, 2018

Wengi wetu tulikuwa tunamchukulia Kiranga kama mtu asiyependa dini lakini kupitia mjadala aliourudisha juzi Deadbody na badae mods wakafanya yao kuunga na thread ya RGforever nimeweza kuelewa kumbe mkuu Kiranga ule mtazamo wake juu ya dini upo upande gani. Kama alivosema yeye ni libertan basi nampongezi kuuona mwanga-nusu ingawa nasikitika hajaweza kujua Mungu anayeona ni blasiphemy yawezekana akawa anamuona katika views/mtazamo tofauti.
Nachokushauri mkuu Kiranga pitia na mada ya theism katika muda wako uweze jua au tuweze eleweshana huyu Mungu katika view ingine isiyohusisha sadaka😉. Mimi ni Muumini katika mfumo wa Deism sababu niiliona/nilifatilia mantiki yake. statement yako imenifikirisha sana na tukitumia concept ya logical reassoning nachelea sema (ingawa siruhusiwi hukumu), Kiranga umeutumia ubongo wako vizuri; you gotta seat in Heaven.

Kiranga said:
Mimi ni libertarian.

Napenda uhuru. Watu wawe huru. Kuishi huru. Kufanya biashara huru. Kuamini huru.

Hata mambo yanayosemwa ni ya dini za kishenzi, au za Mungu ambaye hayupo, yanaweza kuwa na maana sana. Mambo ya dini yamejaa allegory, mythology na busara nyingi mahali pengine. Hata kama Mungu hayupo naweza kuelewa kwa nini watu wanahitaji dini. Hili halinifanyi niseme Mungu yupo.

Mathalani. Kuna dini nyingi sana za asili, hata huku Africa tulikoitwa bara la giza, zenye kanuni nyingi nzuri za kutoua wanyama bila sababu, kutokata miti. Nitatoa mbili hizo tu kama mfano. Sasa Waafrika wamefanya haya mambo kwa miaka na miaka, maelfu kwa maelfu. Mtu anayechukulia dini literary atasema hawa watu washenzi. Wanaabudu miti na wanyama.

Lakini kuna upande wa pili wa uchambuzi wa dini kama hizi. Mtu anaweza kusema dini za kuabudu miti na kukataza usikatwe ovyo zimesaidia jk maintain ecological balance na kuhifadhi mazingira. Siku hizi tumeziacha na hii ni moja ya sababu ukataji miti holela umeongezeka na mvua zinaweza kukosekana baadhi ya maeneo. Uuaji holela wa wanyama umeharibu ecological cycle. Watu wanasoma sayansi wanaona hatari za pool of species kuwa reduced, endangered species kuongezeka, au hata unnatural imbalance ya mating population katika wanyama fulani. Mambo haya haya yakisemwa na wazungu/wasomi tunasikliza na kusema yana maana, lakini tukimkuta babu anakataa mti wake usikatwe tunasema mshenzi anaabudu mti.

Kwa hiyo mimi natetea uhuru wa watu kuabudu. Lakini pia, uhuru wa kuabudu kwa kiasi kikubwa ni kitu cha faragha. Ukiabudu kwako, kanisani kwako, msikitini kwako sawa. Ukianzisha mjadala JF kujadili uwepo wa Mungu, halafu ukaniambia mti wa Mbuyu ni Mungu mjuzi wa yote na mwenye uwezo wote na upendo wote, nitakupinga sana.

Kwa maana utakuwa umeshaingilia dini yangu ya kutafuta ukweli kwa uchunguzi.

Kwa hiyo mtu akisema leo Tanzania imepiga marufuku wanaoabudu miti, nitapinga habari hiyo na kusema hawa watu wana haki ya kikatiba Tanzania na pia kimataifa wanatetewa na Universal Declaration of Human Rights iliyopitishwa December 10 1948 kama sikosei, na Tanzania tumetia sahihi kulikubali Azimio hili zuri sana.

Nitaitetea imani hii. Uhuru wa kuabudu si kitu cha kuchezea.

Lakini mtu wa imani hii akija hapa kujadili na kusema mti wa kwao ni Mungu, nitampinga vikali sana kwa facts.

- wick
Mods msihamishe, huu sio uzi wa dini shubaaamit!!!!...

Deadbody · Mar 16, 2018

Karibu Kiranga

Wick · Mar 16, 2018

Deadbody said:
Karibu Kiranga

[emoji2][emoji2][emoji23][emoji23] karibu Kiranga

hearly · Mar 16, 2018

naona unamchokoza genius wangu

Kiranga

Phoenix · Mar 16, 2018

Window7 · Mar 16, 2018

Kiranga alistaafu kupost Jf.

Wick · Mar 16, 2018

hearly said:
naona unamchokoza genius wangu

Kiranga

[emoji23] hii nii kumsifia sitaki mijadala nae, masuala ya kuniweka library weekend kufatilia vitabu vya kumuelekeza sihitaji

Wick · Mar 16, 2018

Window7 said:
Kiranga alistaafu kupost Jf.

Karudi

hearly · Mar 16, 2018

indundu said:
[emoji23] hii nii kumsifia sitaki mijadala nae, masuala ya kuniweka library weekend kufatilia vitabu vya kumuelekeza sihitaji

HAHAAAA ...SAWA
hata mimi ningepnda aachwe apumzike kidogo aiseee

hearly · Mar 16, 2018

Window7 said:
Kiranga alistaafu kupost Jf.

unahisi kwa nini labda !?

Wick · Mar 16, 2018

hearly said:
HAHAAAA ...SAWA
hata mimi ningepnda aachwe apumzike kidogo aiseee

[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] Kiranga is like a hunter hes always on look out to hunt knowledge. unabisha leta mada

Dahafrazeril · Mar 16, 2018

Nampenda sana Socrate's.

Ubishi wa aina yeyote ile ni bayana ya ujinga.

-The truly wisdom is knowing that you know nothing-.

Castr · Mar 16, 2018

Kama hakuna mungu/ Mungu kuna nini?

Hua nasoma jarida la Amkeni! La mashahidi wa Yehova, hua wana swali lao baada ya kuelezea kitu, mfano ufanyaji kazi wa goti, swali husema hivi...

Unadhani huu mfumo ulitokea bahati mbaya au kuna mtu aliubuni?

hearly · Mar 16, 2018

indundu said:
[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] Kiranga is like a hunter hes always on look out to hunt knowledge. unabisha leta mada

hahaa halafu hachoki "" mtabishana mpka kunakucha mpka uache unyoya

Wick · Mar 16, 2018

Castr said:
Kama hakuna mungu/ Mungu kuna nini?

Hua nasoma jarida la Amkeni! La mashahidi wa Yehova, hua wana swali lao baada ya kuelezea kitu, mfano ufanyaji kazi wa goti, swali husema hivi...

Unadhani huu mfumo ulitokea bahati mbaya au kuna mtu aliubuni?

kuna uzi wa RGforever wameielezea na ukiupitia utapata majibu yako mkuu

Wick · Mar 16, 2018

hearly said:
hahaa halafu hachoki "" mtabishana mpka kunakucha mpka uache unyoya

Naona Castr anataka aanze ligi kupitia mashahidi wa Yehova

Kichwa Kichafu · Mar 16, 2018

Ya kiranga nimemuachia kiranga

hearly · Mar 16, 2018

indundu said:
Naona Castr anataka aanze ligi kupitia mashahidi wa Yehova

nimemchora tu ...namimi leo wala sina mood ya hizo issue ....weekend hii na nimesha chat mpka mikono inauma aiseee

Reptilia · Mar 16, 2018

Wick · Mar 16, 2018

hearly said:
nimemchora tu ...namimi leo wala sina mood ya hizo issue ....weekend hii na nimesha chat mpka mikono inauma aiseee

Bahati mbaya sina access ya jukwaa letu pendwa mpe salam mwenyekiti makaveli10 na katibu Castr Najua hawajalitelekeza chini ya uangalizi wa mhasibu Ambiele Kiviele na Somji Juma

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