Uhuru and Ruto to attend trial at the same time creating a power vacuum in Kenya.

Uhuru and Ruto to attend trial at the same time creating a power vacuum in Kenya.

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Uhuru, Ruto to attend trial at the same time

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By Martin Mutua and Wahome Thuku

There was concern yesterday after a new trial schedule by ICC placed both President Uhuru Kenyatta and his deputy, William Ruto, at The Hague at the same time.

According to the schedule, Uhuru and Ruto will both attend their trials between November 12 and December 13.

The demands of the international court will put the country in uncharted territory, and likely constitutional crisis.

The schedule indicates that the case one involving Ruto and radio personality Joshua Sang will start at 9.30am while that of Uhuru will be heard in the afternoon.

Unlike in the old Constitution where the President carried the power of office out of the country, the current Constitution provides in Article 147(3) that when the President is absent, the deputy shall act as president.

Power vacuum

What the Constitution drafters failed to address is how to plug a temporary power vacuum occasioned by in a situation where both are away.

In such an event where both the President and Deputy are away in The Hague, the offices remain constitutionally occupied as per Article 146 of the Constitution.

The office becomes automatically vacant only in the event of two occurrences, the death of the holder or resignation. The other two ways in which the office becomes vacant are through incapacitation or impeachment, which entails a long constitutional process.

Should the office fall permanently vacant at the same time, the Speaker of the National Assembly would take over and a presidential by-election held in 90 days.

The Speaker does not take over when the two are out of the country even if they have travelled together.

It is, however, the practicality of running the offices from The Hague that is the challenge.

Constitutional petition

According to Nairobi lawyer Kibe Mungai, the absence of the president and his deputy at the same time would cause practical difficultiesin the affairs of the country.

Mungai said the Constitution does not allow the two to abandon their stations at the same time.

"In legal terms, the Constitution does not envisage a situation where the president and the deputy are both outside the country," he said.

The issue is already the subject of a constitutional petition filed in court on Tuesday by a lobby group, the National Conservative Forum.

The group wants Uhuru and Ruto barred from attending the ICC. Through lawyer John Khaminwa and Jennifer Shamalla, they are seeking a declaration that when the President and the Deputy President are out of the country at the same time, there shall be a vacuum in governance on the part of the Executive and this shall occasion an imbalance in power.

The case was slotted to be heard on Monday, by which time Ruto would already be on his way to The Hague.

In the real sense of the situation, there is nothing unlawful about a Head of State and his or her deputy being out of the country together, says constitutional lawyer Soyinka Lempaa.

It's only that our Constitution does not guide us on who should be in charge. It would even be worse if the National Assembly Speaker was to become incapacitated together with the two leaders. We could face a constitutional crisis,” he says.

Acting president

Even the Constitution of the USA does not envisage a clear situation where both the president and the vice president are out at the same time. But the US Congress is charged with the power to declare which other officer shall Act as President when both offices are vacant.

Under the US constitution, a president who believes he will be temporarily unable to perform the duties of his office can declare himself or herself unable to discharge the powers and duties of his or her office.

He would do this by transmitting that declaration in writing to the Speaker of the House of Representatives and the President of the Senate. The vice president then becomes acting president until the president declares, by another letter to the leaders of each house of Congress, that he is once again able to discharge the powers and duties of the presidency.

Back in Kenya, then President Kibaki and his Vice President Kalonzo Musyoka occasionally flew out of the country at the same time for different missions.

Willful member

In the present case, it's the length and the purpose of Uhuru and Ruto's absence that forms the present debate.

According to Siaya Senator James Orengo, the country should not be held at ransom by the absence of both but should define its own way forward.

However, lawyer Mungai said the ICC has a responsibility to ensure that the two cases do not stall other affairs of the country.

"As a wilful member of the ICC, it is the responsibility of the judges to ensure that the affairs of the Republic of Kenya are not adversely affected by the trial of an individual," he says.

"If there's a good reason not to attend court, either of the two can fail to attend. It will be enough for them to say they cannot attend because the Constitution does not allow both of them to be out of the country at the same time. If you are receiving commands from two centres, you have a right to choose what to obey," said Mungai.

.Standard Digital News - Kenya : Uhuru, Ruto to attend trial at the same time
 
Kwani Wakenya wakati wanachagua akina UhuRuto walikuwa hawajui kama wana kesi?na walisema hiyo ni kesi binafsi,sasa kwani Wakenya ina maana hawana akili au ukabila uliwapunguzia akili wakati wa uchaguzi na sasa ndio akili imewajia kuwa hawa jamaa wakiondoka kunakuwa na uwazi.Mwekeni Doule au Shebeshi au Sonko hao wanafaa kuziba huo uwazi
 
Mambo bado!!!!!
Tulia; Tulia; Tulia:
Magoma motomoto ya Nairobi!!!
Tulia; Tulia; Tulia.
 
First of all during the camppaigns these 2 war criminals and their supporters were busy yapping about how they will ruile Kenya from The Hague via Skype. Now today, as the reality kicks in, they are developing cold feet with Uhuru Kenyatta now saying they cannot be both at The Hague...baloney!!!

President Uhuru Kenyatta rejects parallel Hague trial with William Ruto

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President Uhuru Kenyatta (left) and his deputy William Ruto are prayed for during a service at the African Gospel Church in Nairobi, Sunday. [PHOTO: Moses Omusula/STANDARD]

By MOSES NJAGIH
KENYA: The International Criminal Court ( ICC) must ensure that the trials of the Kenyan President and his deputy do not overlap, President Kenyatta warned on Sunday.

Speaking at a public rally on the eve of Deputy President William Ruto's departure for The Hague, Kenyatta cautioned the ICC that he and his deputy could withdraw their cooperation with the court unless their trials are rescheduled and set at different times.

Standard Digital News - Kenya : President Uhuru Kenyatta rejects parallel Hague trial with William Ruto
 
Foolish President!

Uhuru seeks exemption from all ICC sessions

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PRESIDENT Uhuru Kenyatta has requested to be exempted from attending all sessions of his trial at the ICC which starts on November 12.
His lawyer Steven Kay told a status conference yesterday that Uhuru's need to be exempted from full trial is even greater than Ruto's since he is the head of state in Kenya.

Kay requested that Uhuru should be allowed to attend the trial at his discretion owing to his position.

Kay amended Uhuru's earlier request to attend via video-link saying that even that should be pegged on “when he chose to do so.”
“Our arguments are different because we are head of state…. but essentially we are seeking a Ruto form of order,” Kay said.
Prosecutor Adesola Adeboyajo opposed the application terming it “disrespectful.”

She said it implied that heads of states should never appear before the ICC. She added that Uhuru should realise that failure to attend might necessitate issuance of an arrest warrant against him.

“Such request would violate bedrock of legal principle that all are equal, that official positions are no hindrance to an ICC process,” she said.
Kay said Uhuru had requested the video link in his previous capacity as deputy Prime Minister.

He said Uhuru’s defence team can handle the trial for him. He said the proceedings should not be seen as an attempt to punish an innocent man.

“It’s not about a spectacle, a barbarous exposition of the defendant,” he said.

Kay said it would grossly unfair if Uhuru is required to be present all through his trial, particularly if the case is dismissed

Kay also wanted the trial postponed again pending their investigations into the whereabouts of some witnesses at the material times cited by prosecution.

He said he had managed to obtain mobile data but it was not easy as “software has had to be developed to enable the information to come out.”

The prosecution insisted that trial must still start in November as this would be the fourth time the defence wants trial postponed.
The victims' lawyer also opposed the idea of a further postponement.

Kay also requested more time to examine the 30 witnesses for the prosecution.

He objected to a 50-50 time sharing between defence and prosecution as he had overwhelming evidence to dismantle the credibility of some witnesses.

“The scale of counter evidence we want to produce is to such an extent that it reveals two separate conspiracies to pervert course of justice. It cannot be dealt on 50 to 50 basis. The evidence deserves proper consideration,” Kay said.

The prosecution said it would call 30 witnesses over 186 hours, which would take two months and two weeks.

Prosecutor Ruth Fowlie said that the period is only for cross examination for the 30 witnesses. She said more time would be needed to present the prosecution evidence against Uhuru. The prosecution also wants to add two more witnesses against Uhuru next week.

Meanwhile Deputy President William Ruto suffered a double blow when top judges turned down his request to review an earlier plenary decision on where his trial should be held. Then Pre-trial judge Ekaterina Trendafilova allowed the request of Chief Prosecutor Fatou Bensouda to appeal an earlier decision rejecting the restoration of events of December 30 and 31, 2007 in the charge sheet.

The ICC 'presidency', comprising of the courts president Sang Hyun-Song, 1stVice President Sanji Mmasenono and 2nd Vice President Cuno Tarfusser, rejected Ruto’s application to consider whether his trial could be held in East Africa.

On July 11, the ICC plenary of ICC judges fell short by one vote of the necessary two thirds majority required to move parts of the trial to Arusha or Nairobi.

Ruto now has to travel to the Hague for his trial which begins on Tuesday.

Trendafilova allowed Bensouda to appeal on the single issue of whether the judge initially erred in interpreting the term “permission” in the Rome Statute by including specifics of the case.

The Article says that after charges are confirmed and before trial begins, the prosecutor may with the permission of the pretrial chamber amend the charges.

Bensouda believes the events of December 30 and 31 are essential to support her case. She had said that failure to allow the appeal would have forced to change her case theory and strategy.

On August 16, Judge Trendafilova, acting as single judge of pretrial chamber, rejected the two dates saying the bid was belated and would disadvantage Ruto and his co-accused Joshua Sang. The judge said the belated bid “showed lack of diligence, organisation and efficiency” on the part of Bensouda.

“The Prosecution’s case is, and has always been, that Ruto and Sang are responsible for the widespread and systematic attack against civilian PNU supporters in Turbo town, Eldoret area, Kapsabet town and Nandi Hills town from on or about December 30, 2007 until the end of January 2008,” she said in her application.

The pretrial chamber had only confirmed charges with respect to those incidents which took place in the “greater Eldoret area” for the period of January 1-4, 2008.

Uhuru seeks exemption from all ICC sessions | The Star
 
Kwani Wakenya wakati wanachagua akina UhuRuto walikuwa hawajui kama wana kesi?na walisema hiyo ni kesi binafsi,sasa kwani Wakenya ina maana hawana akili au ukabila uliwapunguzia akili wakati wa uchaguzi na sasa ndio akili imewajia kuwa hawa jamaa wakiondoka kunakuwa na uwazi.Mwekeni Doule au Shebeshi au Sonko hao wanafaa kuziba huo uwazi

This has been clarified. Nothing of the sort will happen. It was a blunder by the ICC. They too make silly mistakes.
 
When Raila Odinga pointed out to Kenyans for their own benefit during a debate "you cannot run this country on Skype while at the Hague" Raila Uhuru, hard pressed by this funny reality stated that his trials at Hague were personal and he would not bring them to state matters.

Civil Society then said it would be imposible for for a president to run a country while facing the trials.

Mr Kenyatta now says its imposible for him to carry out his duties while at the Hague.....Did Mr Kenyatta lie to his supporters.???
 
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