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You have said it all, actually Tanzania is very unlucky to be surrounded by these countries, Magufuli I think is making mistakes to concentrate with EAC, we better concentrate with SADC.
You have said it all, actually Tanzania is very unlucky to be surrounded by these countries, Magufuli I think is making mistakes to concentrate with EAC, we better concentrate with SADC.Tribal societies have the tendency of producing such people. They are all over East Africa.
That's why East Africa abstained and SADC supported. It's about making a statement that humankind is best served as humankind, and not otherwise.
Tribes, religions and races produce classes which produce conflict.
Kenya, Rwanda, South Sudan, Congo and - to a relatively less degree - Uganda, are societies that will always be haunted and ultimately fail to thrive. There's too many "tribal" and primitive minds in them.
Tanzania is very unlucky to bordered by these heathens. They will never go anywhere with that mind, and what is so sad is, they think they are superior. Which brings us to the aforementioned reasons.
It's a freaking vicious cycle and somehow we are stuck with them.
Anajua kila kitu, anajaribu kuficha aibu ili kupunguza shutuma dhidi ya Kenya, ukifuatilia maoni ya wakenya wengi katika mitandao na forum mbalimbali wanapinga uamuzi huu wa Kenya, wengi wa wasomi wa Kenya wanasema uamuzi wa Kenya umetokana na ukweli kwamba Kenya isingeweza kuipinga Israel kwa sababu Netanyau amekua na ukaribu sana na serikali ya Kenya, ametembelea Kenya mara mbili ndani ya mwaka huu, pia Kenya inaogopa sana kuikasirisha Marekani, hizi blaah..blaah za huyu ni za kupuuzwaAbstaining is as equal as voting against the majority. I can't believe you're saying, countries which vote against US, they did so out of spite just because they wanted to show their citizens they were not scared. Are saying all 128 countries are ignorant of Palestinian suffering? Has Kenya really raise her consent with Israel about the occupation of Palestinian land?. How will Kenya feel if Ethiopia or Tanzania (not uganda for obvious reasons) decided to carve part of Kenya and push Kenyans into refugees camps?
In Tanzania we've long history for standing tall to oppressor's. From Britain with South Africa to Morocco with Sahrawi all the way to sidelining Chinese, and occupation of Palestinian land.
I hate Israel like shit, especially venye wanatreat PalestiniansKenyans, abstaining, actually running away from being seen voting to denounce the decision of Trump administration to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and hence shifting its embassy to the city was a cowardly decision. To me this tests the competence and quality of our leadership. We are human beings, we know what was happening inside the grey jerry of these individuals.
Our neighbours voted enthusiastically, reading loudly their decisions, confidently. In east Africa Kenya brags to have good economy and influence to steering the community towards where it is required to be. However, with this type of leadership, this type of decisions, there is no way Kenya will be a respected state. A country where the leadership struggles to impress the US regardless of the quality of prescription handled to them. Leaders who couldn’t recognize the humiliating prescription or who tolerated the humiliation for no tangible reason!
What benefits are we getting from this relation with the US? Getting VISA to the US? Is the benefits that much heavier to sacrificing the country’s integrity and respect? NO! NO!
For one country? It is for the Arab world.Kenya did not abstain, the kenya office at the UN was closed for holiday hence we did not participate in the vote at all, but if we had we would have probably abstained, this is because the resolution was useless and it was stupid for any country to think that voting for or against actually had any power, If the US woke up tomorrow and decided that palestine doesn't exists anymore, trust me, no one in the UN would do shit! I mean just look at this situation, the whole UN had to call for a special meeting just to vote on one single issue where the sovereign state of US decided that it would move its embassy, how weak is the rest of the world that we have to all gather to pass a useless resolution that doesn't carry any weight just for one country
.Kenya is giving some people sleepless nights. Biggest and most vibrant economy in East Africa. We are not going anywhere soon. We are here to stay, watch us soar higher at the same rate as all your blood pressure. Viva Kenya!
Anajua kila kitu, anajaribu kuficha aibu ili kupunguza shutuma dhidi ya Kenya, ukifuatilia maoni ya wakenya wengi katika mitandao na forum mbalimbali wanapinga uamuzi huu wa Kenya, wengi wa wasomi wa Kenya wanasema uamuzi wa Kenya umetokana na ukweli kwamba Kenya isingeweza kuipinga Israel kwa sababu Netanyau amekua na ukaribu sana na serikali ya Kenya, ametembelea Kenya mara mbili ndani ya mwaka huu, pia Kenya inaogopa sana kuikasirisha Marekani, hizi blaah..blaah za huyu ni za kupuuzwa
Never trust Kenyans, hau mbele ya maslai yao wapo tayari kuolewa na wanaume wenzao.Urafiki wa Uhuru na Netanyau una anza kuonyesha madhara, lakini tukirudi nyuma utaona Wakenya wameshasahau jinsi Waingereza walivyowafanya unyama kama huu wa Israeli anavyo wafanyia Palestina. Kunyanganya ardhi, kufunga watu kisiasa, kuuwa watu kwa halaiki ...yote haya wenzetu wameyasahau. Leo hii wanakwenda kucheka na yule yule mkadamizaji huku wanasema personal interest, really ????
Sio kila Mkenya anasupport hii upuuzi. Don't generalize. Waafrika tusisahau tulikotoka. Wazungu walituny'ang'anya shambaUrafiki wa Uhuru na Netanyau una anza kuonyesha madhara, lakini tukirudi nyuma utaona Wakenya wameshasahau jinsi Waingereza walivyowafanya unyama kama huu wa Israeli anavyo wafanyia Palestina. Kunyanganya ardhi, kufunga watu kisiasa, kuuwa watu kwa halaiki ...yote haya wenzetu wameyasahau. Leo hii wanakwenda kucheka na yule yule mkadamizaji huku wanasema personal interest, really ????
Yes, Kenya ina akili you do not do something simply because others are doing it lazima uwe selfish kwanza na kuangalia maslahi yetu. Sasa nyie mlikomboa SA kama mnavyo tuimbia hapa kila siku, je mbona SA haiwatupii hata misaada ama kumkwamua toka umasikini wa LDC status?Hakuna kuzungumzia power au kutokuwa na power, UN haina jeshi na wala sio lengo la UN kupiganisha vita yoyote, lengo ni kuonyesha mshikamano na kulaani jambo fulani kwa pamoja, nchi zote duniani kwa pamoja bila kujali tofauti zao za kiitikadi na kisiasa ziliungana pamoja, ni mara chache sana UK kuwa against USA, lakini safari hii UK imeipinga USA. Hive dunia nzima ikiwame UK, China, France, Germany, Tanzania, Urusi, Japan, na zingine nyingi hazina akili kukataa jambo lile, Kenya tu ndiyo yenye akili?
You should never trust anybody in this world angalia maslahi yako kwanza.Never trust Kenyans, hau mbele ya maslai yao wapo tayari kuolewa na wanaume wenzao.
You have a choice to simply isolate yourself or join SADC. Do not blame others for your poor status. Does Kenya run your economy?Tribal societies have the tendency of producing such people. They are all over East Africa.
That's why East Africa abstained and SADC supported. It's about making a statement that humankind is best served as humankind, and not otherwise.
Tribes, religions and races produce classes which produce conflict.
Kenya, Rwanda, South Sudan, Congo and - to a relatively less degree - Uganda, are societies that will always be haunted and ultimately fail to thrive. There are too many "tribal" and primitive minds in them.
Tanzania is very unlucky to be bordered by these heathens. They will never go anywhere with that mind, and what is so sad is, they think they are superior. Which brings us to the aforementioned reasons.
It's a freaking vicious cycle and somehow we are stuck with them.
Faida tuliyopata hatuna njaa kana ninyi wala hatulali kwenye mabanda ya nguruwe kana ninyiYes, Kenya ina akili you do not do something simply because others are doing it lazima uwe selfish kwanza na kuangalia maslahi yetu. Sasa nyie mlikomboa SA kama mnavyo tuimbia hapa kila siku, je mbona SA haiwatupii hata misaada ama kumkwamua toka umasikini wa LDC status?
You have said it all, actually Tanzania is very unlucky to be surrounded by these countries, Magufuli I think is making mistakes to concentrate with EAC, we better concentrate with SADC.
Go to SADC maybe your prosperity lies there mambo ya kuyumba yumba haitawasaidia hata kidogo, njia mbili zilimshinda fisi.They once supported apartheid so no suprise at all kwa decision yao ya sasa
Faida tuliyopata hatuna njaa kana ninyi wala hatulali kwenye mabanda ya nguruwe kana ninyi
PovuuuNyie mnalala kwa nyumba za kifahari mbona mko kwenye list ya LDC? Mbona 80% mnajisaidia/kunya kwenye streets na vichaka huku mkiwa na nyumba nzuri kuliko zile za nguruwe huku Kenya?
Nope. But it'd be way better if we had civilized neighbors.You have a choice to simply isolate yourself or join SADC. Do not blame others for your poor status. Does Kenya run your economy?
Almost is not the same as equal.Nope. But it'd be way better if we had civilized neighbors.
Plus your economy and your HDI is almost the same as Tanzania's. We have a higher GDP PPP than any country in East Africa.
But stick to the point and admit that you guys have been giving dome for a while now .... Toothless dome.