Who was Lissu's informer, does this have any effect on our internal security?

KalamuTena · Mar 22, 2021

Intelligence Justice said:
Traces suggest at least four access codes may be facilitating the flow of the information with high pay and safety assurance
1. One or two unethical surveillance detail with outstanding grudges against the regime posing as polite and submissive servant to line command to achieve the goal
2. Might be medical physician posing as surveillance confidant to TAL
3. It might be a trusted junior or medium infantry posing as surveillance detail for special purpose
4. Former government staff tasked/contracted to daily update on the government senior staff timetable schedule that involves public and closed door meeting to discuss issues of national interest and mapping out the action plan

Notabene:
i. Neither passer by nor passionate individual can dare to volunteer leaking classified information to third party knowingly of the risk and consequences ahead
ii. Someone with access to state house and not subject to security detail scrutiny was effectively capitalized to drive home unseen missile to the target knowingly the statesman had pacemaker implanted to regulate his impetus heartbeat that would be compromised;
iii. Tanzanian people are inter-married and state aides are not isolated from citizens interaction while in discharge of security detail as such become vector medium of the communicable diseases.

No one is directly accused here rather are personal opinions extending the venue to think critically, but speculation clouds the scenario of the incident suggesting as to what happened.

Is it true the pacemaker was irreplaceable to advanced version should it had been examined and determined by the specialist that it was out of order to save life?
Everyone can offer different answers, only the doctor who was treating the big man reserves the the right to secret which won't be revealed unless upon the patient's or family consent, to this effect it requires courageous investigative skills to solve the puzzle.

*To me I figure out as the WILL of GOD not engineered by human hands. Do not throw blame to anybody rather than harmonizing the emotionally confused citizens. If there is reliable and credible clue from the thread originator let him spill the millet to capture a favorable cock to eat.

Mkuu, lugha yako ni ngumu kuielewa!

KalamuTena · Mar 22, 2021

Lihove2 said:
May be he even knows who was behind the 16 bullets.It should be a matter of time, I suppose things will begin to unfold

I bet he has a good handle to that. What do you expect?

Wouldn't you have been interested to know had you been in his position?

Rebeca 83 · Mar 22, 2021

uzuri hao ma informers huwa wana kuwaga na time limit, akijulikana anapotea anaingia informer mwingine ambae hajulikani,,na siku zinaenda

KalamuTena · Mar 22, 2021

Omusolopogasi said:
Usalama wa wauaji na madikteta siyo usalama wa taifa. Usalama wa taifa ni usalama wa Watanzania wa kawaida.

Labda shida tu ni kujua mwanzo na mwisho wa matendo ya hao viongozi; kama kweli wanayoyafanya wanayafanya kwa faida ya taifa, au ni kwa kujifurahisha wenyewe au kujitafutia sifa binafsi.

1954 · Mar 22, 2021

Richard said:
That person who facilitated the process to feed Lissu that information was traced and found in Arusha.

He's been looked after since.

But you seem to be right on our security system especially cyber security.

I think we have cyber security centre but I don't think is well equipped (or is in the process) enough to stop these leaks.

We are told our President was first hospitalized at Jakaya Kikwete Heart Centre/hospital...To what extent are staffs at this Centre lip tight? Just a thought though..

Hismastersvoice · Mar 22, 2021

Mlachake said:
Lissu started questioning whereabouts of the President on March 7th 2021. As per the Vice President our President Dr. John Magufuli was hospitalized on 6th March 2021.

This clearly shows Lissu was fed information about the health of our President by his sources which he claims are reliable from the government.

Remember we normal citizens and the rest of the world were never notified on the Presidents illness till his demise on the 17th March 2021.

Who was feeding Lissu with information?

I do not know what you are talking about, all I know is he is in the office anachapa kazi, have you ever seen him wondering at Kariakoo or Magomeni? This was said inside a mosque on Friday during noon prayers, and till now no body has refuted, I stick to this in support to the PM.

Themagufulianz · Mar 22, 2021

Umesahau Lissu alisema amepelekwa India...[emoji3]

Meela said:
Lissu kasema Magufuli amelazwa hospitalini Nairobi Kenya. Baadaye kaseme serikali ya JMT ilimuondoa na kumpeleka China. Inaonyesha huyo informer ni boya kama boss wake tu.

fimboyaasali · Mar 22, 2021

Mlachake said:
Lissu started questioning whereabouts of the President on March 7th 2021. As per the Vice President our President Dr. John Magufuli was hospitalized on 6th March 2021.

This clearly shows Lissu was fed information about the health of our President by his sources which he claims are reliable from the government.

Remember we normal citizens and the rest of the world were never notified on the Presidents illness till his demise on the 17th March 2021.

Who was feeding Lissu with information?

Lissu alipewa mtonyo na wafanyakazi wa nairobi hosp

Williedm · Mar 22, 2021

MIGNON said:
The first whistle blower was Evarist Chahali a former KGB.
The best advice to take is that "walls have got ears"

KGB au TISS kule yupo mafichini baada ya kufanya madudu yake hapa Tz

Meela · Mar 22, 2021

Themagufulianz said:
Umesahau Lissu alisema amepelekwa India...[emoji3]

Thank you. Alisema katoroshewa India. Halafu watu wanampa credit Lisu na his so called informer.

Meela · Mar 22, 2021

Lord OSAGYEFO said:
Na aliposema Amekufa je hakufa kweli?

of course alitabiri atakufa kwa sababu ndiyo kazi anayofanya sasa baada ya siasa kumshinda. Ila alisema keshakufa wakati bado ni mzima. Kumbuka kuwa alienda hospitali tarehe 6/3 akatolewa tarehe 7/3 akaendelea na kazi hadi tarehe 14/3 ndipo akapelekwa tena hospitalini akafariki tar 17/3. Sasa huyu mtabiri/mchawi kamtangazia kifo siku nyingi kabla hata kabla hajapelekwa hospital mara ya pili.

Meela · Mar 22, 2021

Mackanackyyy said:
Sasa Kwani hakulazwa Nairobi? Wewe ndo boya basi kwa taarifa yako, endelea kukaa hapo umefungua domo lako huku akili imefungwa!

Kweli nyumbu ni ZERO brain. Eti alilazwa Nairobi??

Chitiva · Mar 22, 2021

Zanzibar-ASP said:
Kuhusu Lissu kujua hizo taarifa sio issue(maana hata mimi na wewe tungeweza kujua tu), issue ni Lissu kuwa ndio Tz whitehouse spokeman kuhusu afya ya Rais.

Kivipi?
Lissu alitoa taarifa kwa uhakika na kujiamini mnoo, na akawa ndio reliable source kwa dunia nzima kuhusu afya ya Magufuli.

Kwa wadadisi wa ndani ya serikali wanakwambia hilo jambo halikutokwa kwa bahati mbaya, ni mpango ulioundwa ndani kwa ndani kutoka sehemu ya system za usalama na serikali ya Tz baada ya viongozi kugawanyika kuhusu hatma ya kisiasa ikiwa watasema Rais amekufa au anaelekea kufa. Kuna kikundi fulani kilikuwa kinataka ku 'capitalised' kiti cha urais wa Tz kwa mgongo wa Magufuli kipindi hichi kwa kuficha au kuchelewesha taarifa, hivyo mtifuano wao ukazaa baadhi yao kutoa details kwa mtu ambaye angeuza habari Kidunia kwa haraka na upana ili kuvuruga hiyo mipango. Na Lissu alionekana ni mtu sahihi. Na kwa hilo walifanikiwa.

Kuna mambo mengi yanakuja, utajua vizuri. Kuwa na subira.

Haa,kweli mkuu?

smarte_r · Mar 22, 2021

Mlachake said:
Lissu started questioning whereabouts of the President on March 7th 2021. As per the Vice President our President Dr. John Magufuli was hospitalized on 6th March 2021.

This clearly shows Lissu was fed information about the health of our President by his sources which he claims are reliable from the government.

Remember we normal citizens and the rest of the world were never notified on the Presidents illness till his demise on the 17th March 2021.

Who was feeding Lissu with information?

swali la kijinga sana hili. sasa ukimjua huyo informer itakusaidia nini?.

Meela · Mar 22, 2021

Bambaleta said:
Wewe ndio boya umepindisha alichosema lissu

Kama ni kusema kuwa alitoroshewa Chuna badala ya India kweli nimekosea. Lakini boya na informer wake walisema katibiwa Nairobi na kutoroshewa nchi nyingine wakati hajatoka TZ

Mangungo II · Mar 22, 2021

Meela said:
Kama ni kusema kuwa alitoroshewa Chuna badala ya India kweli nimekosea. Lakini boya na informer wake walisema katibiwa Nairobi na kutoroshewa nchi nyingine wakati hajatoka TZ

Kaaa hivyo hivyo .

ZALEMDA · Mar 22, 2021

Devided TISS

Chitiva · Mar 22, 2021

Intelligence Justice said:
Traces suggest at least four access codes may be facilitating the flow of the information with high pay and safety assurance
1. One or two unethical surveillance detail with outstanding grudges against the regime posing as polite and submissive servant to line command to achieve the goal
2. Might be medical physician posing as surveillance confidant to TAL
3. It might be a trusted junior or medium infantry posing as surveillance detail for special purpose
4. Former government staff tasked/contracted to daily update on the government senior staff timetable schedule that involves public and closed door meeting to discuss issues of national interest and mapping out the action plan

Notabene:
i. Neither passer by nor passionate individual can dare to volunteer leaking classified information to third party knowingly of the risk and consequences ahead
ii. Someone with access to state house and not subject to security detail scrutiny was effectively capitalized to drive home unseen missile to the target knowingly the statesman had pacemaker implanted to regulate his impetus heartbeat that would be compromised;
iii. Tanzanian people are inter-married and state aides are not isolated from citizens interaction while in discharge of security detail as such become vector medium of the communicable diseases.

No one is directly accused here rather are personal opinions extending the venue to think critically, but speculation clouds the scenario of the incident suggesting as to what happened.

Is it true the pacemaker was irreplaceable to advanced version should it had been examined and determined by the specialist that it was out of order to save life?
Everyone can offer different answers, only the doctor who was treating the big man reserves the the right to secret which won't be revealed unless upon the patient's or family consent, to this effect it requires courageous investigative skills to solve the puzzle.

*To me I figure out as the WILL of GOD not engineered by human hands. Do not throw blame to anybody rather than harmonizing the emotionally confused citizens. If there is reliable and credible clue from the thread originator let him spill the millet to capture a favorable cock to eat.

Wenzangu wa kiingereza cha yes na no hapa ndiyo umetuachia vumbi tuu, haka ka lugha kanatunyanyasa Sana baadhi yetu

Analyse · Mar 22, 2021

Me too said:
Hatma yako si nzuri umefikia hatua ya kumlinganisha muumba na vitu vilivyoundwa na mwanadamu.

Waulize meli ya Titanic kilichowakuta.

Sometime ni heri kukaa kimya

Ni wapo alipomlinganisha Mungu na technolojia?

Smart911 · Mar 22, 2021

Mambo yake muachieni mwenyewe...

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