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To African standards iko poa
To African standards iko poa
Nyinyi si Germany?Tanzania
after german defeated during ww1 all german colonies were taken...Tanganyika was colonized by britishBut you're considered a German colony.
But you haven't look on French speaking countries like Ivory Coast, Mali, Cameroon, Senegal they're doing well too.In Africa Britain colonised the following countries;
1.Kenya
2.South Africa
3.Nigeria
4.Egypt
5.Uganda etc This are the leading countries economically in Africa except Ug
(ii) USA was colonised by the british and is the global super power
(iii) Canada
Iv.India
V.Australia
vi.ongezeni list
Your very wrong, Ujamaa didn't bring us down, in fact is capitalism brought us way down. IMF, World bank forced us to sale all our factories and open up our markets in return they will lend us money. Matokeo yake the very little we had, capitalist waka viharibu ili walete vya kwao kutoka nje. Others wakachukuwa assets zetu as collateral na kuchukuwa mikopo. But the tables have turned, tunachukuwa mali zetu on win win bases.well, in certain nations like Nigeria, oil has been the main source of economic growth and thus the country's 'development' has very little to do with British colonialism...for SA, I believe gold played a very critical role in its development plus alot of the investments that mostly white South africans made post-independence...unlike most african nations, SA embraced industrialization at a very early stage after gaining independence...they developed many cities and grabbed alot of markets in Africa...but most importantly, nations colonized by the British embraced a more capitalist approach...look at Kenya in EA....thats why they ended up developing more than other socialist nations like TZ..watanzania wanaeza pinga hili ila ujamaa umechangia kwa umaskini uliopo nchini mwenu vikubwa...sisemi kuwa kenya sio maskini...as a matter of fact it is very poor...but that ujamaa thing iliwa affect vibaya sana...Nyerere was kind of an idiot..the only good thing that came out of ujamaa is the unity that tz tribes have...hamna ukabila sana kama wakenya...lakini ukija kwa mambo ya uchumi, ujamaa ni upuuzi...
But the best east is Kenya,west Nigeria,south SA,North EgyptBut you haven't look on French speaking countries like Ivory Coast, Mali, Cameroon, Senegal they're doing well too.
Hawajasoma kitabu cha De Soto, Fernando. Mystery of Capital. Why capitalism triumphs in West but failed everywhere. Kuna mambo mengi sana humo.Hujui lolote kuhusu ujamaa, ukiulizwa ujamaa ulileta umasikini kivipi huwezi kujibu. Wewe lazima utakuwa kwenye lile kundi la mapunguani wanaosoma uchumi wa kimagharibi, wanafundishwa kuchukia ujamaa.
Msingi mkuu wa ujamaa ni kujitegemea, kuzalisha unachotumia. Pia, serikali kumiliki njia kuu za uchumi ili kuzuia matapeli kucheza na uchumi wa nchi. Wewe lazima utakuwa miongoni mwa mapunguani waliosoma uchumi wa kimagharibi.
They talk about the failure of socialism but where is the success of capitalism in Africa, Asia and Latin America? Fidel Castro
It depend what your looking for, if it was me, I would choose Senegal and Ivory Coast over Nigeria in terms of institutions and economic stability.But the best east is Kenya,west Nigeria,south SA,North Egypt
Good according to you...but facts on the table prove otherwiseIt depend what your look for, if it was me, I would choose Senegal and Ivory Coast over Nigeria in terms of institutions and economic stability.
Ivory coast is French back yard. Just as it was south Africa being western Europe back yard.
South Korea and China were colonized by Japan. Soon China will overtake US economically. Your argument is invalid.In Africa Britain colonised the following countries;
1.Kenya
2.South Africa
3.Nigeria
4.Egypt
5.Uganda etc This are the leading countries economically in Africa except Ug
(ii) USA was colonised by the british and is the global super power
(iii) Canada
Iv.India
V.Australia
vi.ongezeni list
well, in certain nations like Nigeria, oil has been the main source of economic growth and thus the country's 'development' has very little to do with British colonialism...for SA, I believe gold played a very critical role in its development plus alot of the investments that mostly white South africans made post-independence...unlike most african nations, SA embraced industrialization at a very early stage after gaining independence...they developed many cities and grabbed alot of markets in Africa...but most importantly, nations colonized by the British embraced a more capitalist approach...look at Kenya in EA....thats why they ended up developing more than other socialist nations like TZ..watanzania wanaeza pinga hili ila ujamaa umechangia kwa umaskini uliopo nchini mwenu vikubwa...sisemi kuwa kenya sio maskini...as a matter of fact it is very poor...but that ujamaa thing iliwa affect vibaya sana...Nyerere was kind of an idiot..the only good thing that came out of ujamaa is the unity that tz tribes have...hamna ukabila sana kama wakenya...lakini ukija kwa mambo ya uchumi, ujamaa ni upuuzi...
Halafu hivi sasa ndio wamekuwa sandwich kati ya Ethiopia on north, Tanzania on the south. North walishapitwa, south uchumi unakuwa kwa speed kuliko wao.Very true ila Kenya ilibidi iwe mbali sana kwa Tanzania in terms of developments. Imagine for 22 years we were in transition ila sasa the gap is very narrow na Kenya isipoangalia watabaki kushangaa train ya Mombassa kwenda Nairobi, watch out.
Halafu hivi sasa ndio wamekuwa sandwich kati ya Ethiopia on north, Tanzania on the south. North walishapitwa, south uchumi unakuwa kwa speed kuliko wao.
Unaongea vitu ambavyo hata huvijui, ni mtu ambaye hata hujavishughulisha navyo, na huo ndio "upumbavu" hujui na huhitaji kujua.well, in certain nations like Nigeria, oil has been the main source of economic growth and thus the country's 'development' has very little to do with British colonialism...for SA, I believe gold played a very critical role in its development plus alot of the investments that mostly white South africans made post-independence...unlike most african nations, SA embraced industrialization at a very early stage after gaining independence...they developed many cities and grabbed alot of markets in Africa...but most importantly, nations colonized by the British embraced a more capitalist approach...look at Kenya in EA....thats why they ended up developing more than other socialist nations like TZ..watanzania wanaeza pinga hili ila ujamaa umechangia kwa umaskini uliopo nchini mwenu vikubwa...sisemi kuwa kenya sio maskini...as a matter of fact it is very poor...but that ujamaa thing iliwa affect vibaya sana...Nyerere was kind of an idiot..the only good thing that came out of ujamaa is the unity that tz tribes have...hamna ukabila sana kama wakenya...lakini ukija kwa mambo ya uchumi, ujamaa ni upuuzi...
Kwani Kenya ni nchi ya kijamaa? Vipi nayo ni miongoni mwa nchi zilizoendelea? Hata sihitaji kuifananisha na China, vipi imeipiku Venezuela na Cuba? Tangu kupata kwake uhuru, Kenya ni capitalist state, kipi walichokivuna cha kujivunia haswa, ukilinganisha na taifa la kijamaa la Tanzania, ambalo resources zake zilitumika kuokoa wengine, lakini pia kwa miaka zaidi ya 40 lilikuwa limelazwa bila kuendelezwa ktk nyanja yoyote ile kuanzia elimu, miundombinu, viwanda nk huku kwa kipindi chote hiko Kenya ikinufaishwa na huyo mtawala, unadhani mlipo sasa mlistahili kuwepo hapo? Tunaongelea miaka zaidi ya 40 hapa.kuna nchi nyingi za ujamaa zilizoendelea kiuchumi ila usijaribu kuweka tanzania kwa hio listi...bila shaka Nyerere aliwaambukiza ujinga inayodhihirika kwa povu uliomwaga hapa...kwani unafua bro? 😀😀
Ipi iliyotutawala kwa kipindi kirefu Kati ya Ujerumani na Uingereza? Kumbuka, Ujerumani hadi kufikia mwaka 1907 hakuwa ameseto Tanganyika, hapo ndiko alikofanikiwa kuitawala Tanganyika yote kuanzia alipoanza harakati zake 1885 huko. Kuanzia 1919 peacefully Tanganyika ikaanza kutawaliwa (under trusteeship) ya Mwingereza.But you're considered a German colony.
Mkuu, kwa haya nadhani atautambua ujamaa kwa sasa. Hawa watu wana akili za kushikiwa. Wamelishwa sumu ya kuwa tegemezi kwa wazungu hata kimawazo. Shida tupu.Your very wrong, Ujamaa didn't bring us down, in fact is capitalism brought us way down. IMF, World bank forced us to sale all our factories and open up our markets in return they will lend us money. Matokeo yake the very little we had, capitalist waka viharibu ili walete vya kwao kutoka nje. Others wakachukuwa assets zetu as collateral na kuchukuwa mikopo. But the tables have turned, tunachukuwa mali zetu on win win bases.
But if we look at ujamaa as a system, it hasn't fail any country. Kwanza imesaidia kuweka akiba ya rasilimali za nchi. India as democratic as it could be lakini ni nchi ya kijamaa kwa level zote toka chini hadi juu, Ethiopia is the most Ujamaa country in whole of Africa tena hata hawajafungua market zao to the world, China is still holding grip on her local market, Tanzania is growing 1.5 times faster than Kenya.
Nchi nyingi zina embrace both systems, European countries, Britain, France Germany Denmark etc wana ujamaa ndani ya system yao ya ubepari (capitalism). Free health care, free basic education, people living in small community, the less fortune receives social security, what else do you want from ujamaa.
Halafu nadhani hawa jamaa, hata hawajishughulishi na kuongeza maarifa kichwani, walichomezeshwa ndicho wanachokiishi. Lumumba wao anajitahidi lakini hata hawamuelewi.Hawajasoma kitabu cha De Soto, Fernando. Mystery of Capital. Why capitalism triumphs in West but failed everywhere. Kuna mambo mengi sana humo.