Rutashubanyuma
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A story of a gardener and the fruits of his toil are they not in one accord?
How do you separate the gardener and the fruit of his sweat tingle my ears
A story of a gardener and the fruits of his toil are they not in one accord?What about Kikwete and his tenure?
But that's where I see opposition are falling into Magufuli's trap. Instead on focusing on establishing real alternative to CCM government, opposition is busy fighting Magufuli’s ban. Opposition shouldn't be wasting their time and energy on CCM tactics, they need to be busy recruiting new and vibrant talents so that they can give Tanzanians real choice of ideas. Protest politics by nature will not take you far especially on laid back society like Tanzania.Systemic persecution of the vocal opposition leaders suffers us to that school of thought.
Noted and cheers!Words like "acceptable" while you meant "unacceptable" and "farm" for "firm" ought to be corrected unless that is what was aimed at!
Hey Ruta is there any sign of victory to kick out this pumpkin in forthcoming election??I wholeheartedly concur with you but my feeling he is shying away from it because it complicates the ability of his party to rig the next election
Could the perpetrators of the persecution system be more puppets of our nation's enemies than mere formalities?Systemic persecution of the vocal opposition leaders suffers us to that school of thought.
It depends on what type of the pumpkin you would wish to put in place (this is my view and not Ruta's, sorry for interrupting)!Hey Ruta is there any sign of victory to kick out this pumpkin in forthcoming election??
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Mr Mwanzi1, if you stand for correction, let me put it in my way that, we are not a 'laid back society' but rather a 'deliberate sabotaged society' by internal and external selfish personalities. Look at how our natural resources are being mishandled, how our industries were privatized, how youths rush to towns and cities leaving the old folks to till on the land, how our expatriates perform their duties in a manner of 'business as usual', etc, etc! Inasmuch we dance to this tune of 'laid back society', we will remain so, though it is just a mindset misconception and not the reality!But that's where I see opposition are falling into Magufuli's trap. Instead on focusing on establishing real alternative to CCM government, opposition is busy fighting Magufuli’s ban. Opposition shouldn't be wasting their time and energy on CCM tactics, they need to be busy recruiting new and vibrant talents so that they can give Tanzanians real choice of ideas. Protest politics by nature will not take you far especially on laid back society like Tanzania.
Being patriotic does not mean condoning killings. It is more than that! It is about love of your country and its people and of which killings of fellow citizens is never in the society's dictionary, if not vocabulary! And when it happens to be otherwise, it is vehemently condemned and cursed!Patriots for what? Condoning murders?
And by doing so, you limit yourselves from thinking outside the box and therefore, doom other relevant applicable theories / therapies to security challenges, and pole sana!Gunning down of a government critic leaves us with very little leeway but to blame the authorities who have developed a penchant for persecuting hapless critics
We need to oust this bumpkin and replace him with someone elegant who doesn't use clumsy solutions in national affairs.It depends on what type of the pumpkin you would wish to put in place (this is my view and not Ruta's, sorry for interrupting)!
No, unless you make me believe so. By the way, what type of industries do you refer to?We need to oust this bumpkin and replace him with someone elegant who doesn't use clumsy solutions in national affairs.
First, are you agreeing with me this con artist has already miserably failed to get us to the so-called tanzania ya viwanda?
I agree with you that our conscious was taken for granted by the very people we put our trust to lead us. But how do you bring back normality to the society which hasn't experience free speech, or personal determination or rule of law. Do we rush the change and risk social meltdown like what we see in Libya or Iraq? Or we introduce change gradually like what we see in China and Cuba, maybe North Korea. CCM there doing what they doing because there is no one with plan B to offer the people, how I wish we had a stable and robust opposition, which can offer us a sustainable plan.Mr Mwanzi1, if you stand for correction, let me put it in my way that, we are not a 'laid back society' but rather a 'deliberate sabotaged society' by internal and external selfish personalities. Look at how our natural resources are being mishandled, how our industries were privatized, how youths rush to towns and cities leaving the old folks to till on the land, how our expatriates perform their duties in a manner of 'business as usual', etc, etc! Inasmuch we dance to this tune of 'laid back society', we will remain so, though it is just a mindset misconception and not the reality!
Digest and cheers!
Who says there is no freedom of speech? Let us try to differentiate between freedom of speech and freedom of abusing!I agree with you that our conscious was taken for granted by the very people we put our trust to lead us. But how do you bring back normality to the society which hasn't experience free speech, or personal determination or rule of law. Do we rush the change and risk social meltdown like what we see in Libya or Iraq? Or we introduce change gradually like what we see in China and Cuba, maybe North Korea. CCM there doing what they doing because there is no one with plan B to offer the people, how I wish we had a stable and robust opposition, which can offer us a sustainable plan.
I think you misunderstood me on both points, when I said "society which hasn't experience freedom of speech", I meant most of our people are not familiar with rules of freedom of speech, most people they don't know where it starts and where it ends. Most people took the word free speech literally as it is, and some political leaders are no better. Sometimes those leaders pretend not to know what is right from wrong so that they can clock a bit of politician mileage.Who says there is no freedom of speech? Let us try to differentiate between freedom of speech and freedom of abusing!
In anyway and anyhow, the human character stands no compromise with mocking and abusing language and there is also nowhere in judicial books where such is left to stay!
In other words bad languages have no sophisticated audible tune and therefore left either to be ignored or contained.
By the way, can you name one country among the so called 'most democratic nations' in the world which continues with endless political meetings after election? If none, is it because for them, "time is money"?
Digest and cheers!
Point taken and thanks a million!I think you misunderstood me on both points, when I said "society which hasn't experience freedom of speech", I meant most of our people are not familiar with rules of freedom of speech, most people they don't know where it starts and where it ends. Most people took the word free speech literally as it is, and some political leaders are no better. Sometimes those leaders pretend not to know what is right from wrong so that they can clock a bit of politician mileage.
There is time for politics and time for work in most of responsible democratic countries. I'm not sure why you thought I'm against what Pres. Magufuli has introduced in our country. Even though our constitution allows political gathering, but we need to be sensible with our development and let people work. At same time we can save a bit of money from policing those gatherings.