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Alafu kweli i cant see namibia, botswana, mh. Hii kitu hii, ngumu kumeza.
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Alafu kweli i cant see namibia, botswana, mh. Hii kitu hii, ngumu kumeza.katika vitu ambavyo wala usihangaike wala kuvifuatilia, ni hiyo mdudu anayeitwa GDP. hiyo ni namba tu ya kufikirika. ambayo haina hata uhusiano na ustawi wa jamii (social welfare). utakubaliana nami nchi Afrika ambazo haziko kwenye level ya NCHI za Afrika kimaendeleo kama Botswana na Namibia hazipo. kuna kitu utagundua tu.
He gave his reasons and opinions, as according to Kenya, but comparing between TZ and KE it is not enough to just say a country is doing better because the GDP PPP or GDP Nominal is higher, other issues have to be considered too...Mbona yule economist wenu critic wa jubilee, nani sijui, anaamini zaidi gdp ppp. And i saw him lecturing your countrymen venye ppp is perfect. Anyways utabisha tu.
Goodluck then, so Kenya is above Sudan now.
Hard to believe, but ok.
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46% live below $1?you are out of your mind!
Watu wengi hawakumuelwea president...alisena hiv ..Kama unauwezo wa kuwalisha na kuwatunza watoto ..then ni vizur mzaliane ..ila kama hauna uwezo wa kuwatunza na ni mvivu kufanya kazi .ni bora utumie njia za uzazi wa mpango ..hakusema ety watu wazaliane ovyoAcha ujinga Rais kusema tuzaliane in ujinga mkubwa sana although am Tanzanian but kuzaliana sana bila mpangilio in mbaya sana nilimshangaa sana Raising alivyosema hvyo
Si lazima uandike kwa kingereza. Just write in Swahili nobody will cane you.Are you not aware?
Nominal GDP is GDP without inflation adjustment. You want to air your pedestrian views on things you are not familiar about.TZ is as equally poor as say Somalia. There are many tools or indicators including poverty analysis that show TZ are generally poorer and less progressive than kenya. Kenya poverty the last decade reduced by 10% - the regional inequalities - are also being smoothed. I think absolute poverty is down to 25% (less than 1 dollar per day per person) with normal poverty (less than 2 dollars person per day) around 35%
Nominal GDP and nominal GDP per capita is the perhaps the standard measure for nearly any macro-economics - and therefore just because TZ continues to regress and Kenya is moving fast ahead - doesn't make it less important measure.
Who said GDP PPP is better than GDP Norminal? Boss GDP norminal is not inflation adjusted and therefore worse..May be you meant to say Real GDP but that shows you have no grasp of the subject even the bare basics. You are just exited by numbers you dont know what they mean.Very pedestrianWhy don't you engage in a logical conversation, there is no math that you can teach me bro.
I just find your arguments too biased for someone who claims to be an intellectual. Shouting here all the time how GDP PPP is a better measure than GDP Nominal without talking of the situations in a specific economy is just mediocre. GDP PPP is a good measure in a country whose economy is mostly domestic, while for a nation involved in exporting and importing goods using the US dollar the GDP Nominal can be a better measure of how "successful" the economy is.
Without even trying to make any conclusions i expect your answer on the argument of GDP PPP and GDP Nominal to start with "It depends what country and economy we are talking about" ... not all the time adjusting your reasoning to favor your bias
Who said GDP PPP is better than GDP Norminal? Boss GDP norminal is not inflation adjusted and therefore worse..May be you meant to say Real GDP but that shows you have no grasp of the subject even the bare basics. You are just exited by numbers you dont know what they mean.Very pedestrian
Where did I say that? wapi nionyeshe! infact many economist prefer GNI which is measuring economy from the income side rather that the production side. Because production side is assumes every activity is productive..Yes even demolitions are added to GDPAre you not the one who keeps saying such crap??? 😳😳.. the "expert" who keeps calling others pedestrians.
You are too biased to be anything intellectual. as i said , your conclusions come before your reasoning.
Where did I say that? wapi nionyeshe! infact many economist prefer GNI which is measuring economy from the income side rather that the production side. Because production side is assumes every activity is productive..Yes even demolitions are added to GDP
TZ GNI is bigger than that of kenya..As a pedestrian, I dont expect you to understand what is GNI.
What did you study in school?
Great then find Compsci Guy to argue with on Computer programming or whatever. I am sure you wouldnt entertain a BSC econ with wikipedia knowledge trying to give his 'expert' opinion on what a JAVA library can or cannot do.I can't claim to be what am not just to fit an argument, am not an economists, I studied Bsc-Computer Science, but some of your arguments are just too biased, depending on where the numbers are comparing TZ and KE. The TZ GNI is higher by a very small margin, but gni per capita of KE is higher than TZ. what does that show of the well being of an average individual in both nations???
ha ha ha i don't think like that, we are in the 21st century - the information age... if your arguments don't make sense it does not matter what you studied in school...and if you can read about what Java library can do and understand, does that make your knowledge false?? change your mindset. Some things are just logical.Great then find Compsci Guy to argue with on Computer programming or whatever. I am sure you wouldnt entertain a BSC econ with wikipedia knowledge trying to give his 'expert' opinion on what a JAVA library can or cannot do.
Alafu kweli i cant see namibia, botswana, mh. Hii kitu hii, ngumu kumeza.
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$1 =kshs101 right?Are you not aware?
Let me give you a closer example. You must have studied automata theory in Compsci which is the basis of object oriented programming. Why do you think companies shun bsc IT people in dev jobs and opt for Bsc compsci? Despite there being available knowledge on any language?ha ha ha i don't think like that, we are in the 21st century - the information age... if your arguments don't make sense it does not matter what you studied in school...and if you can read about what Java library can do and understand, does that make your knowledge false?? change your mindset. Some things are just logical.
Nominal GDP is GDP without inflation adjustment. You want to air your pedestrian views on things you are not familiar about.
REAL GDP 2017
KE $74.9B
TZ $57B
Those are IMF figures..Now if you are honest and not cherry pick IMF data that says 17.5% of KES is inflated, then you devalue the 74b by 17.5% and get 61B GDP
The gap in real gdp when adjusted to imf's own currency valuation is only 4B. (61-57)
Boss Tz is not the Tz of the 90's. But unless you have deep rooted insecurities, that should not worry you..Ethiopia came close to kenya and at one time overtook it, Angola has cruzed past kenya by 40B margin. These are the facts of life, in a race you dont look behind you look forwards..Its disgusting that kenya goes to Rwanda, a small poor country to bench mark on kigali city management. You will never see TZ going to Nairobi to benchmark
You see! You don't get it, MAKANJAMNA enlighted you about our economy being informal, meaning a big percentage of our GDP is not counted. So don't get over your head and be fooled by those statistics thinking they represent countries like Tanzania. It might well represents Kenya, South Africa or Zimbabwe but not Tanzania.
Am Quoting 2017 figures beacause those are the ones verified and on WB data. And that represents REAL GDP not norminal.Go slow on the arrogance & the insults little kid. You know very little.Why are quoting 2017 estimates in year 2019. You can get latest figures from KNBS. I have pasted them somewhere.
It has both nominal and seasonally adjusted GDP - in Kshs to boot.
Gross Domestic Product (GDP) - Kenya National Bureau of Statistics
Kenya is widening the gap btw TZ. The gap of now is nearly 90-55 - around 35 - you'd need to combine Uganda & Rwanda & maybe Burundi - and all the three would still have less than Kenya economy.
TZ that has more population. TZ that has twice the land size. TZ that has more than twice it arable land. TZ that has way more minerals & natural resources than Kenya.
Kenya is the largest non-mineral economy in Africa, with highest quality of education save maybe for Mauritus, with Africa best human capital, one of most innovative & diversified economy that is sophisticated for it's stage of development, that is just about to enjoy demographic dividend (highest contraceptive usage around, lowest fertility, lowest child & infant mortality, one highest life expectancy).
We can go on and on - but Kenya has certainly done itself proud. That is now why it's now the 4th biggest economy in Sub-Sahara Africa. Angola are warned..Kenya really is 3rd Biggest Sub-Sahara Economy.
Whenever I check any indicators of Sub-Sahara it either South Africa, Nigeria or Kenya leading - that top 3 - will soon reflect when Kenya overtake Angola in 2021 or 2022.
And here come TZ - the usual laggard, petty, jealously and of course backward & retrogressive.
Am Quoting 2017 figures beacause those are the ones verified and on WB data. And that represents REAL GDP not norminal.
And since we are on that same subject and you are quoting IMF/WB projections..Let us also not shy away from accepting that 17.5% of KES is inflated..and that would automaticaly mean GDP is equaly inflated as well as kenya's foreign $ denominated debt is undervalued by 17.5 percent
So the actual gap is when you consider the above (61B-57B) wich is a mere 4B.
What did you study in school?
Yeah tech companies esp those with serious research depts will prefer Comp sci guys because in Bsc IT you don't study theoretical computer sci, the math units are also few, making Comp sci guys better problem solvers in the long run, whichever problem rises. however that said many IT people are great devs regardlessLet me give you a closer example. You must have studied automata theory in Compsci which is the basis of object oriented programming. Why do you think companies shun bsc IT people in dev jobs and opt for Bsc compsci? Despite there being available knowledge on any language?
Or why do go to a doctor when info on medicine and diagnostics is readily available?
A society starts to decline when you despise professionals.. class seven person is the CS for sports, waititu and sonko are governors..I hope one day you go for an interview at the most successful company in kenya Safcom..and have a feel of their recruitment process