Jay456watt
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KQ si airline ya kufananisha na ATCL...huo ni ujinga...KQ ni top 5 airline Africa...inapitia changamoto ila bado ni 5 star...only matched by Egyptair, SA airways, ethiopian and Air Mauritius
By next year JNIA will be receiving around 9 mln passengers while ZIA will be receiving over 2 mln PAX per year while Mwanza Airport 2 mln PAX per year. Not to forget KIA btn 1.5-2 mln PAX while Songwe International Airport while be 1.5 mln PAX. Aside that 6 regional airports are U/C at different stages with runways ranging 1.5-2.5 km. Unless we r doing all this to allow KQ benefit ATCL has all enabling environment. Believe me under Magu Kenya will be forced to share the pie no other way.Kwanza, u have no inter- continental airline like KQ.
Pili, Jkia Nairobi alone recieves more passengers than your six largest airports combined.
Tatu, KQ is still a very respected airline, with millions of loyal customers from all over the world. Last year alone, it had well over 4,1mln passengers.
It has had its management overhauled, now watch its fortunes turning around.
Nne, you have no airline industry to talk about.
Every country is entitled to feel like if they are the most important country to the rest , but be too naive, right now as we speak JamboJet carries more pasengers than that airline of yours, stop counting your cheeks before they hatch, didn't you learn anything from your dooms day prediction on KQ bcoz of fastjet?ATCL is to receive Bombardier C series n that will definitely force GoT renegotiate frequencies allocations for the Dar-Nairobi route. Make no mistake to dare protectionism as Magu is a no joke.
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Yah, we know KQ's retired fleet had about 8 times more aircraft than what ATCl owns, and its loss in 2016 alone is about 5 times the value of ATCl's assets, which is very bad really. But that goes to show just how incomparable the 2 are.How many aircraft u sold n how long is KQ making loss? Believe me u will keep on the trend...ET n SAA are not ur peer imagine SA made $12 bln from air services. Fool stop dreaming...
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Kwanini Fastjet alishindwa soko la Kenya?
Kwanini tudhani ATCL itaweza soko la Kenya?
By next year JNIA will be receiving around 9 mln passengers while ZIA will be receiving over 2 mln PAX per year while Mwanza Airport 2 mln PAX per year. Not to forget KIA btn 1.5-2 mln PAX while Songwe International Airport while be 1.5 mln PAX. Aside that 6 regional airports are U/C at different stages with runways ranging 1.5-2.5 km. Unless we r doing all this to allow KQ benefit ATCL has all enabling environment. Believe me under Magu Kenya will be forced to share the pie no other way.
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Show me where in the world KQ fly 44 flights a week, and your saying that will be foot note SMH. When we cut those flights to 14 I haven't seem Kenyatta working that fast to make sure KQ got those flights back.Every country is entitled to feel like if they are the most important country to the rest , but be too naive, right now as we speak JamboJet carries more pasengers than that airline of yours, stop counting your cheeks before they hatch, didn't you learn anything from your dooms day prediction on KQ bcoz of fastjet?
Lets do some reality check, your largest airport carried 2.5Million Passengers last year, those are all passengers from every airline, international or domestic going through JNIA,
Now KQ alone carried 4.3Million passengers last year! That's almost twice the number that passed through jnia in Dar, Now is KQ the biggest airline in terms of passengers carried in Tanzania? No its not
So the question is, Do you really think KQ will fall as a company if it were to loose a few Tz flights? Most likely you'll just be a footnote in KQ general meeting, mentioned that year then forgotten
Yah, we know KQ's retired fleet had about 8 times more aircraft than what ATCl owns, and its loss in 2016 alone is about 5 times the value of ATCl's assets, which is very bad really. But that goes to show just how incomparable the 2 are.
Kisha which Sa airways are you talking about. The one I know made a loss of $124mn ($47mn for KQ) and flies to 42 destinations (62 for KQ) so we are peers geza, swallow your shallow pride.
The plan is by next year tourists numbers to be 3 mln n guess what, we r on track. Wait when those airports r up n running to laugh but for now as a Kenyan keep fighting insecurity along the Frontier plus an imminent danger of inter cilivilian chaos after 08/08.Hahaha! U are kidding!
All those millions from where? And whose projectons are those?
Ati Jnia from 2.9mln this yr to 9mln.....anyway.
Yes KQ will fall very fast esp. when KLM is diluted n lose the Board control. One thing Kenyans don't understand is business environment has changed if u couldn't make KQ be sustainable business like ET then forget! Uganda r revamping their airline too.Every country is entitled to feel like if they are the most important country to the rest , but be too naive, right now as we speak JamboJet carries more pasengers than that airline of yours, stop counting your cheeks before they hatch, didn't you learn anything from your dooms day prediction on KQ bcoz of fastjet?
Lets do some reality check, your largest airport carried 2.5Million Passengers last year, those are all passengers from every airline, international or domestic going through JNIA,
Now KQ alone carried 4.3Million passengers last year! That's almost twice the number that passed through jnia in Dar, Now is KQ the biggest airline in terms of passengers carried in Tanzania? No its not
So the question is, Do you really think KQ will fall as a company if it were to loose a few Tz flights? Most likely you'll just be a footnote in KQ general meeting, mentioned that year then forgotten
The plan is by next year tourists numbers to be 3 mln n guess what, we r on track. Wait when those airports r up n running to laugh but for now as a Kenyan keep fighting insecurity along the Frontier plus an imminent danger of inter cilivilian chaos after 08/08.
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that is after KQ sold and leased out some of it's fleet. about the destinations, the airline has been striving to add the routes as outlined in their route network map for the year 2011-2021.Cooking data will not leave safe, lie doesn't pay KQ loss $258 million shrinking by $4.1 million from the year before.
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SAA lost $124 million the same year.
South African Airways Set for Fifth Loss as Insolvency Averted
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So what prevents Mbeya n Mwanza from not reaching the set capacity? Take example Mbeya n Songwe; massive iron ore n coal plus helium gas n graphite investments r current on different stages apart from connection to Selous GR n Ruaha NP. Mwanza itself is a city of over a mln inhabitants aside plenty of mining projects n not to forget the pipeline plus port for Uganda. Do u know gas investment alone in Mtwara n Lindu will be over US$ 30 bln?I agree that Tanzania is on track developmentally, but that those airport pax numbers would just rise up suddenly like that...cmon, u got to be realistic.
Guard against your passion for your country and optimism making u sound like u are high on expired Indian hemp or sumthin!
what's the relationship between minerals and passenger sizeSo what prevents Mbeya n Mwanza from not reaching the set capacity? Take example Mbeya n Songwe; massive iron ore n coal plus helium gas n graphite investments r current on different stages apart from connection to Selous GR n Ruaha NP. Mwanza itself is a city of over a mln inhabitants aside plenty of mining projects n not to forget the pipeline plus port for Uganda. Do u know gas investment alone in Mtwara n Lindu will be over US$ 30 bln?
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Those r massive projects coal n iron ore project itself over $3 bln meaning mvt of the people. Those r FDI projects Kenya hasn't seen since her creation. Don't mention SGR as GoK took loan.what's the relationship between minerals and passenger size
And what makes u think all Kenyan management with total control will make things better off? Tell me one success story in Kenya among companies?that is after KQ sold and leased out some of it's fleet. about the destinations, the airline has been striving to add the routes as outlined in their route network map for the year 2011-2021.
they want to fly to Europe, Asia, Australia,South America and the US of which so far they have gotten the toughest of them all.
If you have been checking up on the updates then you should know by now that the Kenyan banks agreed to convert the Debt owed by KQ to shares, making them the largest shareholders. KLM's shares are to significantly reduce to 13.7% from 27%
with the support by banks and government it shows there's hope for a U turn in KQ
really? safaricom?And what makes u think all Kenyan management with total control will make things better off? Tell me one success story in Kenya among companies?
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no one'stalking bout the black gold in TurkanaThose r massive projects coal n iron ore project itself over $3 bln meaning mvt of the people. Those r FDI projects Kenya hasn't seen since her creation. Don't mention SGR as GoK took loan.
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As far as i know there has never been a Kenyan heading Safaricom. Even the board is controlled by Vodafone Plc. Prove me wrong..[emoji115]really? safaricom?
how many Kenyan companies are listed in the DSE again?