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Mtaacha lini ulimbukeni?
All SGR trains fully booked for Easter, Wakenya bana
All SGR trains fully booked for Easter, Wakenya bana
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pingli-nywee
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Take your own advice as you slowly peruse through your reply to my first comment. Thanks in advance.
LetterTo MyFather
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served him right..lol
thisdayes
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Nilikua na mtania tu ata yeye ame elewa, sijui kwanini umekwazika wewe.
Wewe jamaa IQ yako iko chini sana. Uganda na Rwanda pia culture biking ipo. Kiukweli i never thought you think this too low. Tuletee hhizo picha tuone mwisho wako wakufikili. Mnazani kila kitu kinaanzia KenyaCulture ya biking labda ndio mumeanza kuiga, subiri nitakujazia humu mapicha, hapa kwetu hata marriage proposa/posa inafanywa kwa mtindo wa biking
Mkikuyu- Akili timamu
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Sijawahi ona Ujuha kama huu. Habari aliyoileta mwenyewe ni ya SGR. Halafu tena analeta Mambo ya pikipiki , Yaani mtu mzima ako na ndevu anajigamba na pikipiki? Nchi gani haina pikipiki? hata burundi kuna wadau wa Bikes.
Very silly
Mimi toka nikiwa mdogo nimeshudia hivyo vitu. Same in Uganda and Kenya. Mambo mengine sio yakuongelea
Huku boxer zinatumika kubeba abiria. Jamaa cheap sana. Toka aseme atamwaga picha za pikiki hivi sasa nisiku nyingine
eliakeem
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This is one thing so so Kenyan and you will never find it in all the LDC countries, loving our country and touring it and having all the fun.
Kenyan youths have taken into biking like crazy, they're riding into remote towns and enjoying....
Hivyo ni VITU vya KAWAIDA sana.
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Hauna baisikeli hata ya mbao... Kazi yako tu nikushake your black buttocks on kenyan issues some of which you don't even understand head or tail..... such a mad man
Kafrican
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Kafrican
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On the cargo front, slowly we making headway..
“We need to partner and offer them agreements. For instance, we entered an agreement with Bollore Transport and Logistics Company to carry all their cargo whether transit or going to Nairobi. Bollore has convinced their customers who are importers to use SGR,” he added.
He said market for SGR freight train has increased.
On Thursday, the rail line got a major boost when Bollore Transport and Logistics loaded the freight train with a total of 108 20-foot containers.
“We need to partner and offer them agreements. For instance, we entered an agreement with Bollore Transport and Logistics Company to carry all their cargo whether transit or going to Nairobi. Bollore has convinced their customers who are importers to use SGR,” he added.
He said market for SGR freight train has increased.
On Thursday, the rail line got a major boost when Bollore Transport and Logistics loaded the freight train with a total of 108 20-foot containers.
Mkikuyu- Akili timamu
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Transit Cargo which comprises 80% of All cargo with Bill of Landing not Mombasa is being subsidized at 50% of the original cost. This transit cargo is final destination is Uganda, SS, RW & Congo.
Now tell us how SGR benefits Kenya when its Borrowing Eurobond and uses that money subsidize Uganda's Cargo.
Passanger fares are currently more than 300% subsidized, May this year the subsidy will be cut to 200%. Every commuter trip Kenya looses money, and when the subsidy will be reduced, Competition with Bus companies will bite hard
Kafrican
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You need to start thinking like a winner and stop thinking like a looser.
First of all, tell me how many countries in the world dont have a subsidised rail transport, or mass transit system within a city or between two or more big cities...
2nd thing, 70% of all cargo through Mombasa is for or from Kenya, while 28% is transit market while 2% is transhipment cargo by sea (e.g dropped and Mombasa port to be delivered to Pemba island etc... So the ones who benefit the most from the subsidy is Kenyans who are the majority users of the port.
3rd thing, The SGR project is not a private company where you look at profits at mere face value, Governments don't look at profits that way, e.g the SGR fees might be subsidised but for every 700, or 3000 spent by a persenger riding on the train there is probably 5,000 ksh more spent at the destination where the persenger is going. I mean we have local tourist market now, we've got Nairobians who now travel to Msa on Friday stay two days in a hotel then CE back Sunday evening using the SGR, these ppl wouldn't have come to Msa otherwize.
How many wherehouses Will be build along the SGR to be wherehouses for cargo to and from industries , how many industries and factories will be built along the SGR because they see an opportunity for a cheap reliable means of transport? How many more skilled labour will be able to be absorbed into these industries as a result? And with cheaper transport how many imvestors will be willing to set up factories that employ people , wouldn't cheap transport eventually lower the cost of production and intern make goods cheaper for the locals and also be able to export at competitive prices and in turn bring more profits to the economy???
All of those factors are indirect profits and benefits (for every new business ,growing business, employed labour that is created as a result of the cheaper SGR, it means more taxes for the gpvernmnt , and the collected tax woll be way more than profits they would have made if they had charged expencive fees to those who would have been willing to pay) that the government looks at , and all of them can be achieved just by subsidising one thing! -Rail
So, between making a SGR loss in the short term and potentially creating hundreds of new industries and employing millions, Vs making quick SGR profits by charging expensive so that only the big business can continues getting richer with a reliable means of transport while the startups and SMEs can continue being small for ever becuse the just can't afford to scale up without a realiable,efficient and most important for SMEs -Cheaper means of supply
Which model is better to you for a developing country?
Mkikuyu- Akili timamu
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You dont get it. It should not Be the business of kenyan taxpayers to subsidize UG,RW,SS,DRC cargo,which is 80% of the un nominated cargo being carried on SGR. For subsidizing kenyan goods,thats fine although market competition should be the best determinant for prices, the market is not having a crisis that the government needs to step in and re base the prices and in doing so spending scarce tax revenues on such.
There are no extra economic benefits for the rail, its stations are empty and are only busy for max 15 min per day. The cargo train does not stop along the route either, atleast truckers and buses contribute Economically by having pitstops enroute.
And No, there are no warehouses being built along the way, clearing of cargo is strictly at Nairobi ICD.
Except for speed of passanger service, there no other benefits, and this is likely to be wiped after the expressway is built. SGR benefits only Tenderprenures.
Avoid Swallowing PR and assuming that its fact.
Wow such a simplistic way of looking at things. But then again 80% of all cargo landing goes in land and 70% of that is destined for Nairobi. So feed your mind. I think Nairobi takes more than 15 million tones and that keeps growing.
Qualify your 80% statement or forever hold your peace