Atheism and other religions should be treated equally in Tanzania!

[kadoda11]

ama hakika binadamu hatufanani.wakati wengine vipaombele vyetu ni kuona JPM anazidi kutumbua majipu ambayo ndio roho ya uchumi wa nchi hii,mwingine kipaombele chake ni kutaka upagani(kutotambua uwepo wa MUNGU)utambuliwe Tanzania.

 

[einstein newton]

ama hakika binadamu hatufanani.wakati wengine vipaombele vyetu ni kuona JPM anazidi kutumbua majipu ambayo ndio roho ya uchumi wa nchi hii,mwingine kipaombele chake ni kutaka upagani(kutotambua uwepo wa MUNGU)utambuliwe Tanzania.

"the world would be boring place if all we were the same"

so respect opinions of others if you want yours to be respected also!

 

[ZaBeast]

The point is in state/public events there should be no religion involved as the constitution does not acknowledge religion.

Mate, you are confusing issues here sir!

The government is not operating under certain religion beliefs or any member of the government and or civilians are not coerced to believe in any religion.....

That is a must like
1.UK - Christian specifically Agrican

2.UAE- ISLAM

Tanzania uwe una abudu mgomba, Mungu, miungu, hauna dini, as long as hauvunji sheria za nchi na wewe ni raia mwema then go ahead!

Hizi mambo za dini kwanza kuna watu wanazi confuse saana na wala si mada nzuri kuzileta katika jamii..

Coz kuna watu tu, I am pretty sure wao ni shida by default. .

Personally my perceptions in religions matters is quiet amusing...

I consider religions as human traditions/culture or taboos...

God is one! Wapo watu wanatumia dini ku fool around. ... kuna ma radicals wapo chini ya miamvuli ya dini...

Kuna wahuni wapo chini ya miamvuli ya dini...

Roma ilipata scandal ya fraud za mapesa kibao.....

Imagine hata Roma?

Baana tu quit hii kitu!

Binadamu is far extreme...
And binadamu anaeza kuishi beyond his limits we acha baana.....

Emotional Intelligence rules mankind affair. .. know thyself

 

[einstein newton]

ama hakika binadamu hatufanani.wakati wengine vipaombele vyetu ni kuona JPM anazidi kutumbua majipu ambayo ndio roho ya uchumi wa nchi hii,mwingine kipaombele chake ni kutaka upagani(kutotambua uwepo wa MUNGU)utambuliwe Tanzania.

"the world would be boring place if all we were the same"

so respect opinions of others if you want yours to be respected also!

NB:atheism is quite different from paganism.

 

[descarte]

Is atheism a religion?

Wrong question,
Atheism is a negation of what you are asking!!

 

[ZaBeast]

Atheism ni kukana uwepo wa Mungu,
Kilichonifanya hasa niulize swali la kama kukana juu ya uwepo ni dini ni mleta Uzi kuomba usawa Kati ya dini zote, na hata kuomba kuondolewa kwa ushiriki Wa dini katika matukio ya kitaifa,

Concern yangu hapo ilikuwa ni vipi atheism ambayo kwa asilimia kama sio zote inategemea uwepo wa dini kutaka usawa na dini
Licha ya hilo serikali kutokuwa na dini haina maana watendaji Wa serikalini hawana dini, ndio maana viongozi wanaapishwa kabla ya kupewa majukumu

Hata hivyo atheism inaleta utengano katika jamii na taifa, kutokana na kupinga uwepo Wa Mungu, ambaye jamii na taifa linamtegemea kama alama ya umoja, bila ya imani juu ya uwepo wa Mungu Jamii yetu isingekuwa na umoja

Yes,sir!
Hivi ndivyo ilivyo!

 

[descarte]

Haujielewi mleta Uzi,
Kaa chini utafakar kabla ya kuandika upuuzi

Servers mnazijaza ujinga, na upuuzi

Mchango wangu ni huo

No Argument!!Ad hominem at work!!!haaaah

 

[descarte]

Mpumbavu hana lakusema zaidi ya Upumbavu. Na upumbavu hauna tiba.

Point yako ni ipi? Upo emotional tu!!haaaaa

 

[Loeb S Mpalasinge]

"the world would be boring place if all we were the same"

so respect opinions of others if you want yours to be respected also!

NB:atheism is quite different from paganism.

Why are you defending atheism? What is the difference btn Atheism and Paganism ideologicaly??

 

[descarte]

Atheism ni kukana uwepo wa Mungu,
Kilichonifanya hasa niulize swali la kama kukana juu ya uwepo ni dini ni mleta Uzi kuomba usawa Kati ya dini zote, na hata kuomba kuondolewa kwa ushiriki Wa dini katika matukio ya kitaifa,

Concern yangu hapo ilikuwa ni vipi atheism ambayo kwa asilimia kama sio zote inategemea uwepo wa dini kutaka usawa na dini
Licha ya hilo serikali kutokuwa na dini haina maana watendaji Wa serikalini hawana dini, ndio maana viongozi wanaapishwa kabla ya kupewa majukumu

Hata hivyo atheism inaleta utengano katika jamii na taifa, kutokana na kupinga uwepo Wa Mungu, ambaye jamii na taifa linamtegemea kama alama ya umoja, bila ya imani juu ya uwepo wa Mungu Jamii yetu isingekuwa na umoja

Umeelewa vibaya ndugu!!
Point yangu sio kwamba hawaruhusiwi kuwa na dini, kwasababu kusema hivyo ni kwenda tofouti na freedom of worship, wanaweza kuwa na dini ila private affair. Hatuitaji kiongonzi wa serikali kufanya dini yake kama ni ya nchi,watu wote lazima wawe equally treated by showing equal concern and respect

 

[descarte]

I think instead of asking for EQUAL representation of religious beliefs in public gatherings, we should ask for an EQUITABLE representation (meaning that larger groups are recognized more than others).

Example: If we have a gathering of 100 people broken up into:
60 Christians
45 Muslims
1 Hindu
2 Pagans
2 Atheists,

maybe we should give Muslims and Christians equal times for prayers and none for the rest. I think if the other minority faiths come forward and ask for time to pray, they should be accorded some time but not necessarily equal to the major faiths.

Our country has no religion!! We should be faithful to our documents.

 

[descarte]

The country is secular BUT not the people. Politicians need to show respect to the faiths of her citizens. Placating to the faithful is good politics.

Which faith?yet our country is a secular country. We don't have a state religion

 

[descarte]

Real,mate?
Some religions teaches people to radicals and deal with pet things seriously

You once said it is secular then why do we need talk about it ?
I guess it clearly declared unless you feel offended that you think your religion in some ways somewhat isn't given priorities!

No offenses sir... but be open minded bring the topic straight where have you observed such conducts of not being done as the constitution would imply then we talk about it sir!

Government ought to be neutral on this issue.

 

[Loeb S Mpalasinge]

Atheism is the cult which begins in the year 2007 it can't regarded as a religion as it contains secret ritual and ridiculous doctoring to mock and ridicule other religions which started in first century.

 

[descarte]

ama hakika binadamu hatufanani.wakati wengine vipaombele vyetu ni kuona JPM anazidi kutumbua majipu ambayo ndio roho ya uchumi wa nchi hii,mwingine kipaombele chake ni kutaka upagani(kutotambua uwepo wa MUNGU)utambuliwe Tanzania.

Our constitution is very clear not me!!
So,if you have taken for granted those words,that is up to you

 

[ZaBeast]

Government ought to be neutral on this issue.

Ofcourse it is neutral Sir!

 

[Kifyatu]

Which faith?yet our country is a secular country. We don't have a state religion

I didn't say FAITH, I said FAITHS. There are many and we need to recognize all of them. It will be a sad country if we ignore our religions, cultures, faiths simply because the constitutional makeup of the country is secular.

We do this all the time. For example, invoking cultural recognitions such installing a leader as a chief of say, waHehe, with all traditional attires.

 

[Kifyatu]

Our country has no religion!! We should be faithful to our documents.

The country is made up of people. These people have faiths (multiple), cultures, customs, that make them who they are. We need to honor these facets of our being even if our government system is secular.

In a public meeting when we:

• observe a moment of silence for a departed friend or leader,
• stand and applaud our mothers for their care and contribution,
• sing the national anthem (Mungu ibariki........)

we are honoring our cultural/spiritual heritage. We should not shy away from them.

Asking major religious groups to pray for our country does not go against our secular form of government. God knows we need prayers - given the state of our economy.

As long as the State does not favor a particular religion and give equitable time to all religions, I see this as a uniting act for our otherwise divided country. (Currently, there is a silent tug-of-war between Muslims and Christians)

 

[Kifyatu]

Mate, you are confusing issues here sir!

The government is not operating under certain religion beliefs or any member of the government and or civilians are not coerced to believe in any religion.....

That is a must like
1.UK - Christian specifically Agrican

2.UAE- ISLAM

Tanzania uwe una abudu mgomba, Mungu, miungu, hauna dini, as long as hauvunji sheria za nchi na wewe ni raia mwema then go ahead!

Hizi mambo za dini kwanza kuna watu wanazi confuse saana na wala si mada nzuri kuzileta katika jamii..

Coz kuna watu tu, I am pretty sure wao ni shida by default. .

Personally my perceptions in religions matters is quiet amusing...

I consider religions as human traditions/culture or taboos...

God is one! Wapo watu wanatumia dini ku fool around. ... kuna ma radicals wapo chini ya miamvuli ya dini...

Kuna wahuni wapo chini ya miamvuli ya dini...

Roma ilipata scandal ya fraud za mapesa kibao.....

Imagine hata Roma?

Baana tu quit hii kitu!

Binadamu is far extreme...
And binadamu anaeza kuishi beyond his limits we acha baana.....

Emotional Intelligence rules mankind affair. .. know thyself

I agree with you 100%. As long as the government does not favor a particular faith and the Constitution is not religious-based, I am happy.

Saying prayers in public gatherings is in recognition of the people in those meetings.

If the President went to address a meeting of Muslims (example the IDD Baraza), I would expect him to hear Islamic prayers only.

I the President is addressing a meeting of Christians (example, kusimikwa kwa Baba Askofu), I would expect him to hear Christian prayers only.

However, if the President is addressing a mixed gathering (Uhuru celebrations), I would expect him to give all faiths opportunity to pray for the nation. NOTHING WRONG HERE.

 

[ZaBeast]

I agree with you 100%. As long as the government does not favor a particular faith and the Constitution is not religious-based, I am happy.

Saying prayers in public gatherings is in recognition of the people in those meetings.

If the President went to address a meeting of Muslims (example the IDD Baraza), I would expect him to hear Islamic prayers only.

I the President is addressing a meeting of Christians (example, kusimikwa kwa Baba Askofu), I would expect him to hear Christian prayers only.

However, if the President is addressing a mixed gathering (Uhuru celebrations), I would expect him to give all faiths opportunity to pray for the nation. NOTHING WRONG HERE.

I thought it is conducted that way sir!