NairobiWalker
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It's a bogus document. Kenya does not need 600 MPs.
It's a bogus document. Kenya does not need 600 MPs.BBI will be back.
Kenyans opposing BBI are ignorant and fools.
Independence = Money
Sasa wewe unasema nini?A normal mwananchi should use popular initiative. The president should use parliament. That is what the courts said. Tatizo ni kwamba hujasikiliza hio judgement vizuri, umekuja tu kutoa maoni bila kusikiliza hio judgement. Sasa president ataanzisha aje popular initiative na yeye sio private citizen? Mimi I am currently listening to the judgement, I suggest you do the same
Talk to treasury? Haha [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]90% of the issues proposed in the BBI don't need the constitution to be changed, they càn be changed through normal legislature. E.g this one about revenue sharing between national and county government was just added there to seduce governors and MCAs.
You don't need a referendum to change the law on revenue sharing and even if you did need a referendum, The law talks about MINIMUM revenue that should be shared with counties, it never mentions maximum, so if Uhuru really wanted more money to counties all he needs to do is talk with treasury and all stakeholders to increase the revenue to counties from 15% to even 50% if he felt like.
What does age have to do with anything. I might be far older than you. Stick to the main topic.Which one element is being strengthened?
And stop lying about counties. They have been receiving 15% of budget which is the minimum set by law.
Corruption is everywhere and you must be blind or young to not see the effects of devolution in every part of the country.
Extacly. There is already a bill in Parliament90% of the issues proposed in the BBI don't need the constitution to be changed, they càn be changed through normal legislature. E.g this one about revenue sharing between national and county government was just added there to seduce governors and MCAs.
You don't need a referendum to change the law on revenue sharing and even if you did need a referendum, The law talks about MINIMUM revenue that should be shared with counties, it never mentions maximum, so if Uhuru really wanted more money to counties all he needs to do is talk with treasury and all stakeholders to increase the revenue to counties from 15% to even 50% if he felt like.
Uhuru conned Raila. He new this would comeIt is a big blow on the face of Uhuru Kenyatta and this decision aborts every secret move for Laila to become the next president of Kenya.
Bravo to mtoto wa mjini, the field marshal of kenyan politics, ndugu Ruto. This court's decision is a stepping stone towards his beautiful destiny.
Am not very good at math but How is sh370b more than 15% of a sh2.7trillion 2020/21 budget?What does age have to do with anything. I might be far older than you. Stick to the main topic.
GoK has been giving more than 15%.a the main problem is that the funds for the last audited Gov financials.
You can also get more info here
County Allocation of Revenue Bill, 2021
If you are stopping BBI for ruto ole wako.It is a big blow on the face of Uhuru Kenyatta and this decision aborts every secret move for Laila to become the next president of Kenya.
Bravo to mtoto wa mjini, the field marshal of kenyan politics, ndugu Ruto. This court's decision is a stepping stone towards his beautiful destiny.
So you are opposing BBI because of the people that are driving it but not the content inside it? I think you are the same people who elects some leaders and two months later start complaining about the same person you elected.Uhuru conned Raila. He new this would come
I didn't say that.So you are opposing BBI because of the people that are driving it but not the content inside it? I think you are the same people who elects some leaders and two months later start complaining about the same person you elected.
So why are you opposing it?I didn't say that.
How was it initiated and executed first of all before it passes? It will set a bad precedent if it goes kienyeji like that without considering the stipulated laws. It will open a door for the executive to abuse his powers against the law.Which political sentiments?
If BBI passes it becomes law which must be followed.
Those opposing BBI are the ones giving us political sentiments.
Kwani pesa mashinani itafika aje mashinani. Through promises?
Every county has its own economic activity.
The political sentiment 'Bottom up economy' can never be reality without more money to the grassroots which can only trickle down through devolution.
Devolution should be strengthened and BBI is offering exactly that.
Stop beating around the bush ruto sycophant.Is that the last audited financial statement?
Budgetary allocation to Counties is based on the last audited financial statement
Am not going back to this you can read my previous comments.How was it initiated and executed first of all before it passes? It will set a bad precedent if it goes kienyeji like that without considering the stipulated laws. It will open a door for the executive to abuse his powers against the law.
BBI might be "good" depending on where u stand., now give your arguments along the lines of the findings, below is a summary.,
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Five Bench Judge find the BBI Bill unconstitutional.
Furthermore, declares that as soon as the Auditor General completes audit of all the costs, the President and Raila Odinga will have to bear the costs of the manifestly illegal BBI Process....
High Court Findings;
√ BBI Steering Committee is unlawful.
√ BBI is an hybrid initiative unknown to the constitution, therefore it is our finding that the popular initiative as means to amend the constitution under article 257 of the constitution is a power reserved for Wanjiku. Neither the president nor any state organ can utilize article 257 of the constitution to amend the constitution.
√ A constitutional amendment can either be initiated by a Parliamentary or Popular initiative.' It is clear that BBI Bill is an initiative of the President. The President is not an MP, cannot directly purport to initiate a constitutional amendment (Justice Jairus Ngaah)
√ Kenyans committed to protect to the structure of their 2010 Constitution from erosion public participation over elite consensus. There are limits to Constitutional amendment powers High Court finds: the basic structure doctrine is applicable in Kenya Popular Initiative to amend the Constitution can only be started by the people not by the government (Justice Odunga)
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Before High Court made judgement did you have these reasons?