Bill to separate from Kenya officially finished ready for Tabling

Dorrlyn · Nov 14, 2017

kennedy0000 said:
Hawa USA unawaweka kama mungu na ndio wana divisions mingi ata kuliko Kenya.
Wale watu wamekufa kwa sababu ya ukabila Kenya within the last 5 years ni probably less than 10. USA wale watu wameuliwa kwa sababu ya rangi yao within the last 1 year hawawezi hesabika.

Alafu wewe ndio huelewi system ya USa kabisa. Electoral votes were determined by population first and foremost and geographic representation. That's why in out of almost 90 elections that have been held in the US, there have only been 5 anomalies (including Trump's), where the popular candidate loses the electoral college.
It was never intended to be this way and that's why it is very rare.

Even if here in Kenya we decided to go the electoral college way when we were making the constitution, population of certain areas would still have been the guiding principal of allocating electoral votes.
Eg. if a county of 1 million people got 5 electoral votes, a county of 2 million people would have gotten 10.

The election results would still have been the same. Raila would still lose every time, because central and rift valley would have received proportionately more electoral votes by virtue of having a higher population.

Division yoyote ni mbaya si ya kujisifia wala Ku compare but atleast hiyo ya racism naweza ielewa of course rangi nyeusi iko tofauti na nyeupe hiyo hatukatai ni jinsi tu ya kufundisha hao weupe wajue tu kuwa hata weusi waliumbwa na Mungu pia na wote tunakufa tu. Kinachonishangaza na kinachoumiza ni pale mbantu na mweusi mwenzako anapokubagua simply because you are not from his/ her tribe hapo ndio huwa sielewi kabisa halafu utawa kuta wenyewe wamejaa makanisani huwa najiuliza hizo bible wanazosoma may be zimeandikwa kwa lugha zao na nzimekuwa translated wrongly may be kwenye love kumekuwa translated hate. Looh!

Sammuel999 · Nov 14, 2017

Kilele9 said:
That is WHY NASA people (NASArites) want to separate from Kenya
"most NASArites are poor and live in slums. Most buildings, businesses and land is owned by Kikuyus in Nairobi. Even Dagoretti is shaggz kwa Kikuyus yet you guys want to snatch that from them??

They find that really hard to understand decades of marginalisation.
Oooh btw so that yall know most mps in Nairobi are Nasa And people voted for sonko because they thoughy Kidero was not working for them not because he was in Jubilee.....NASA is in control of Nairobi .....just FYI!!

Sammuel999 · Nov 14, 2017

Dorrlyn said:
Division yoyote ni mbaya si ya kujisifia wala Ku compare but atleast hiyo ya racism naweza ielewa of course rangi nyeusi iko tofauti na nyeupe hiyo hatukatai ni jinsi tu ya kufundisha hao weupe wajue tu kuwa hata weusi waliumbwa na Mungu pia na wote tunakufa tu. Kinachonishangaza na kinachoumiza ni pale mbantu na mweusi mwenzako anapokubagua simply because you are not from his/ her tribe hapo ndio huwa sielewi kabisa halafu utawa kuta wenyewe wamejaa makanisani huwa najiuliza hizo bible wanazosoma may be zimeandikwa kwa lugha zao na nzimekuwa translated wrongly may be kwenye love kumekuwa translated hate. Looh!

Dorrlyn sana sana kwa ndio makanisa zina mushroom kila mahali hata ndani ya estate mtu anaona amekosa anything in life anaanzisha kanisa na bibi yake central anatuma watoto waexpand kwingine!

Sammuel999 · Nov 14, 2017

Engineer levi Devin said:
Sasa muntu no mogusii koru nyamira,wataka kujitenga uishi wapi? kama hata kwenu hamna shamba m'mezaana kama panya hamna pahali pa kuishi na kale kashamba kadogo kamebaki nyachae amechukuwa yote na cha kushangaza sana hata huwezi kanyaga kwenu mwauana kila siku kwa uchawi.

Already i know in a week or so Kisii County will pass that People assembly bill on Nyamira it will he harder but eventually it will pass....

Wajaluo wakitoka/wakijitenga toka Kenya ...the next group that will be villified (cause obviously there will rise another opposition group ) will be abaluhya,abagusii na wakamba na wakosti!!...better nikue opposition group peoples republic kuliko hapa

Sammuel999 · Nov 14, 2017

Engineer levi Devin said:
Sasa muntu no mogusii koru nyamira,wataka kujitenga uishi wapi? kama hata kwenu hamna shamba m'mezaana kama panya hamna pahali pa kuishi na kale kashamba kadogo kamebaki nyachae amechukuwa yote na cha kushangaza sana hata huwezi kanyaga kwenu mwauana kila siku kwa uchawi.

Tumezaana kama mapanya?? Look who is talking idiot!!

Population ya kisii ni 1.6mn hata wasomali wameanza kutupita smh!!

Kikuyus mko 19mn in Kenya smh

Kubishana na watu wanajiona superior ilhali most ni kama the rest of us ni headache!!

Know your history

Kisii has 590,000 people
Nyamira has 254,000 people
Migori and Narok (transmara area) Bomet (sotik area) Kericho (kabianga area) and Siaya too hold kisiis

Kisii county- is 1217km2
Nyamira County is 912km2 nyamira is few Km bigger than Nairobi

The abagusii fought for land with masais and Kalenjins mpaka Kabianga just 20km from Kericho when diseases became unbearable on their children to expand further thus the Kisii name Kabianga ie KAVIANGA correct pronouncition in kisii meaning viangire ama vimekataa - they had to sign a pact between the white man kisiis and kipsigis to halt further wars between the two communities

Mko 19mn 5 decades ago mlikuwa 600,000 who is multiplying like rats now??

Smh!!

kennedy0000 · Nov 14, 2017

Dorrlyn said:
Division yoyote ni mbaya si ya kujisifia wala Ku compare but atleast hiyo ya racism naweza ielewa of course rangi nyeusi iko tofauti na nyeupe hiyo hatukatai ni jinsi tu ya kufundisha hao weupe wajue tu kuwa hata weusi waliumbwa na Mungu pia na wote tunakufa tu. Kinachonishangaza na kinachoumiza ni pale mbantu na mweusi mwenzako anapokubagua simply because you are not from his/ her tribe hapo ndio huwa sielewi kabisa halafu utawa kuta wenyewe wamejaa makanisani huwa najiuliza hizo bible wanazosoma may be zimeandikwa kwa lugha zao na nzimekuwa translated wrongly may be kwenye love kumekuwa translated hate. Looh!

So, unaelewa racism lakini hauelewi tribalism? Wewe ni hypocrite mkubwa.
Racism is how you look. Tribalism is how you talk.

Racism is cemented by nothing but superiority complex of the whites.
Tribalism is cemented by suspicions that one tribe is benefiting more than the other from the government.

In short, racist have no reason whatsoever for being racists. But tribalists have their own versions of reasons, no matter how ridiculous.

So I don't get how you understand racism but not tribalism.

Sammuel999 · Nov 14, 2017

Engineer levi Devin said:
Sasa muntu no mogusii koru nyamira,wataka kujitenga uishi wapi? kama hata kwenu hamna shamba m'mezaana kama panya hamna pahali pa kuishi na kale kashamba kadogo kamebaki nyachae amechukuwa yote na cha kushangaza sana hata huwezi kanyaga kwenu mwauana kila siku kwa uchawi.

And just an FYI

We leave Next to Nyachae

Somewhere between

Kebirigo (nyansiongo) and Keroka

Called Gesima (omwoyo)
Area Nyachae has a smaller piece of land than we do!!!

We have a river passing through our land and about 230 acres of tea ....my grandfather fought the white man earlier in our area and educated my parents earlier!!!!!!!!

And so that you know kisii leaders dont Grab land within Kisii they buy it somewhere else like Nakuru county or Narok kajiado...

Nyachae has a 120 acre flower farm near Kebirigo and has build a huge Church for his people and a huge shopping center ....go visit kisii mnadhani kila opposition supporter is as poor as you people go to kisii you will come back a changed person!!!.....

Dorrlyn · Nov 14, 2017

kennedy0000 said:
So, unaelewa racism lakini hauelewi tribalism? Wewe ni hypocrite mkubwa.
Racism is how you look. Tribalism is how you talk.

Racism is cemented by nothing but superiority complex of the whites.
Tribalism is cemented by suspicions that one tribe is benefiting more than the other from the government.

In short, racist have no reason whatsoever for being racists. But tribalists have their own versions of reasons, no matter how ridiculous.

So I don't get how you understand racism but not tribalism.

Tribalism kuna tribes ambazo hazijawahi shika madaraka na bado hawataki sikia MTU wa kabila nyingine. So hiyo sababu yako ya kuwa one tribe INA benefit ni useless. Tribalism iko mpk kwenye ndoa MTU hataki mwanae aoe au aolewe na Fulani. Na unakuta hata hizo tribes hazijawahi shika madaraka. Shida apo nini?
Sina unafiki racism I can understand muonekano wetu ni tofauti. Tribalism ndio sielewi nadhani ni laana na hiyo laana ilitoka kizazi kimoja kwenda kingine coz sielewi why ni hate MTU simply coz we don't speak same language lakini pia na USO na rangi tunafanana.

Engineer levi Devin · Nov 14, 2017

Sammuel999 said:
Tumezaana kama mapanya?? Look who is talking idiot!!

Population ya kisii ni 1.6mn hata wasomali wameanza kutupita smh!!

Kikuyus mko 19mn in Kenya smh

Kubishana na watu wanajiona superior ilhali most ni kama the rest of us ni headache!!

Know your history

Kisii has 590,000 people
Nyamira has 254,000 people
Migori and Narok (transmara area) Bomet (sotik area) Kericho (kabianga area) and Siaya too hold kisiis

Kisii county- is 1217km2
Nyamira County is 912km2 nyamira is few Km bigger than Nairobi

The abagusii fought for land with masais and Kalenjins mpaka Kabianga just 20km from Kericho when diseases became unbearable on their children to expand further thus the Kisii name Kabianga ie KAVIANGA correct pronouncition in kisii meaning viangire ama vimekataa - they had to sign a pact between the white man kisiis and kipsigis to halt further wars between the two communities

Mko 19mn 5 decades ago mlikuwa 600,000 who is multiplying like rats now??

Smh!!

whether you fought kalenjins or not facts ni kuwa hamna shamba,nyachae aliwanyang'anya kila kitu,Somalis wako na shamba kubwa haina mtu wa kuishi huko.sisi tukizaana tupo na shamba at least kuwashinda,,,,,,,,sasa mlipata wapi nguvu za kupiga kalenjin kama wameru ndio cousins wenu waliwachapa wakawafukuza huko central mkakimbilia nyanza kwa watu weak kama ninyi.

Engineer levi Devin · Nov 14, 2017

Samuel999 be realistic bro,nyachae amechukuwa shamba lote kisii na hilo ndio limechangia wakisii kununua shamba kwengine.

Sammuel999 · Nov 14, 2017

Engineer levi Devin said:
whether you fought kalenjins or not facts ni kuwa hamna shamba,nyachae aliwanyang'anya kila kitu,Somalis wako na shamba kubwa haina mtu wa kuishi huko.sisi tukizaana tupo na shamba at least kuwashinda,,,,,,,,sasa mlipata wapi nguvu za kupiga kalenjin kama wameru ndio cousins wenu waliwachapa wakawafukuza huko central mkakimbilia nyanza kwa watu weak kama ninyi.

And in short

I am implying I dont give a shit

Go multiply in Central!!....

You vote doesnt matter anymore

Go eat shit!

Ohhh! And Dont @/quote me!

Kaa na Uthamaki yako ulipo!!

Sexer · Nov 14, 2017

Naswa wakijitenga utakuta urais wa nchi yao mpya atagombea raila vs kalonzo, kalonzo akishinda raila atakataa matokeo na baadae kujitenga tena, kwenye hiyo nchi mpya tena uchaguz utakuwa raila vs mudavadi, mudavadi akishinda raila atakataa matokeo na kuanzisha nyingine ambapo watagombe raila vs anyang nyong

Engineer levi Devin · Nov 14, 2017

Sammuel999 said:
And in short

I am implying I dont give a shit

Go multiply in Central!!....

You vote doesnt matter anymore

Go eat shit!

Ohhh! And Dont @/quote me!

Kaa na Uthamaki yako ulipo!!

Empty debes make a lot of noise,,,, mtazidi kulamba raila kwa mukundu miaka yote ,,,,,maraga is your tribes man na utaona Uhuru akiwa sworn in next month. in fact am in love with kuria people wamekataa kuwa colonised na luo people Leo wamewalk out of the county assembly.

Engineer levi Devin · Nov 14, 2017

Sexer said:
Naswa wakijitenga utakuta urais wa nchi yao mpya atagombea raila vs kalonzo, kalonzo akishinda raila atakataa matokeo na baadae kujitenga tena, kwenye hiyo nchi mpya tena uchaguz utakuwa raila vs mudavadi, mudavadi akishinda raila atakataa matokeo na kuanzisha nyingine ambapo watagombe raila vs anyang nyong

Hahahaha huhuhuhu,,,,,hio nchi ya wajaluo inafurahisha sana,,,,,,,kuna mtu anaeza jitenga eti atawaliwe na watu ambao hawajatairi??

1academ · Nov 14, 2017

mwaswast · Nov 14, 2017

Sammuel999 said:
They find that really hard to understand decades of marginalisation.
Oooh btw so that yall know most mps in Nairobi are Nasa And people voted for sonko because they thoughy Kidero was not working for them not because he was in Jubilee.....NASA is in control of Nairobi .....just FYI!!

So what did Kidero do for His marginalized people in the 5years of His tenure as the Governor of Nairobi? Name one please.

mwaswast · Nov 14, 2017

Dorrlyn said:
Tribalism kuna tribes ambazo hazijawahi shika madaraka na bado hawataki sikia MTU wa kabila nyingine. So hiyo sababu yako ya kuwa one tribe INA benefit ni useless. Tribalism iko mpk kwenye ndoa MTU hataki mwanae aoe au aolewe na Fulani. Na unakuta hata hizo tribes hazijawahi shika madaraka. Shida apo nini?
Sina unafiki racism I can understand muonekano wetu ni tofauti. Tribalism ndio sielewi nadhani ni laana na hiyo laana ilitoka kizazi kimoja kwenda kingine coz sielewi why ni hate MTU simply coz we don't speak same language lakini pia na USO na rangi tunafanana.

Hata ndani ya familia kuna Tofauti. People will never be the same but can tolerate each other.

Dorrlyn · Nov 14, 2017

mwaswast said:
Hata ndani ya familia kuna Tofauti. People will never be the same but can tolerate each other.

U tofauti uko sawa hata jwa mapacha, mi nazungumzia chuki, kama hata familia iko na chuki ukijaribu Ku trace utaona tu ni familia ya laana baraka zitakuwa kidogo sana.

Sammuel999 · Nov 14, 2017

mwaswast said:
So what did Kidero do for His marginalized people in the 5years of His tenure as the Governor of Nairobi? Name one please.

LightYagami · Nov 15, 2017

Kilele9 said:
That is WHY NASA people (NASArites) want to separate from Kenya
"most NASArites are poor and live in slums. Most buildings, businesses and land is owned by Kikuyus in Nairobi. Even Dagoretti is shaggz kwa Kikuyus yet you guys want to snatch that from them??

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Who me? I dont want to snatch anything. But tbh most NASA supporters just live in poor Naiorbi areas. High concentration of humans there and yet they want to take something they control very little of economically. They should use logic ata wakichora hii maps zao

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