Call to Public Debate- Any Brave Atheist or Atheists

Call to Public Debate- Any Brave Atheist or Atheists

Tuangoma said:
Let me ask you this.

If" and I use if" for reason here.

IF this Planet is Exactly 100% made or happen to be the way You want with NO SINGLE EVIL ON IT.

Will that be sufficient to make you BELIEVE IN GOD?
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Do you agree that this Planet is pretty effed up?

No, it is not enough. The whole theory has to make sense.

How about answering my questions?
 
Tuangoma

Can you kindly respond to my questions in post #150 and Kiranga on the problem of evil.

If you do not have an answer, be honest about it.
 
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introvert said:
Do you agree that this Planet is pretty effed up?

No, it is not enough. The whole theory has to make sense.

How about answering my questions?
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Well then whats the point of asking question if you have already made up your mind.

You are nothing but a time wasters.

A typical { <}
 
looking forward to seeing the debate or attending in person myself. I don't know why you attacked atheism in the first place but you'll come to know that theism is the most complicated concept in the context of understanding the nature of reality. Here is one of the links which might help your arguments be more reasonable. Shukrani for the thread though :A S wink::A S thumbs_up:
https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20130615074130AAotZKf
 
Stefano Mtangoo said:
I have seen a lot of debates undercover here and I want face off debate with Any bold Atheist. I believe atheism is not only stupid but also dangerous. I believe atheism/Evolution have no evidence and can be refuted in 5 minutes.

I can debate any amount of atheists from one to gazillion only few criteria:
  1. They should have brain and know what they talk about
  2. They should be honest and stay on topic
  3. All the income (if any) generated by the debate should go 100% to orphans

A university hall or something like that is ideal. I suggest topic of Christianity or Atheism -- whats the Truth? but pretty any topic dealing with atheism falls in right mark.

Here goes the challenge, the ball is in your court!
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in such a debate more probably atheists will speak with one voice but believers will fight each other.
 
introvert said:
I have refuted your arguments in post #150 .

Waiting for your response.

Pound to pound.
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You never REFUTE anything! Rather you choose to ask the same Questions which I have provided you with explanation.

You cant Choose the way you WANT God to be to believe in HIM or at HIM.

God is the way HE IS.
Its your choice to make reasonable understanding with open mind to be able to understand His existence.

You ask questions, I say to you if You got what your seeking will that be sufficient for you, your answer was NO!

Adios pal.
I am chatting to a brick wall.
 
lost id said:
"Evolutionism is a fairy tale for grown-ups. This theory has helped nothing in the progress of science. It is useless." -

Professor Louis Bounoure, past president of the Biological Society of Strassbourg, Director of the Strassbourg Zoological Museum, Director of Research at the French National Center of Scientific Research. (Quoted in The Advocate, March 8, 1984.)


TURUDI KWENYE MADA.
KeyserSoze nina maswali machache ya kukuuliza, housegirl anaweza kuchangia na wengine kuhusu evolution.

Tunaweza kuendelea hapa,hatuharibu mada maana mtoa mada keshapata aliekua anamtaka..

Kama hutojali mkuu keysersoze tunaweza kuendelea.
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What do you want me to say ? The gentleman is entitled to his own opinion as does you ?, Although I think it is fair to be entitled to an informed opinion not a mere opinion....

But ask yourself by using bacterias (which are the only organisms that undergo multiple generations within ones lifetime) we can see that there are changes in their traits which are hereditary (in other words we can see they have evolved to adapt new environment), this shows that change do occur..

Also we know that the genes can be altered it is possible for an organisms hereditary characteristics to change this has happened so many times and one example can be seen here (where goats genes where arficially mixed with spider genes to make a cow produce milk which contain a protein able to produce silk.... BBC News - The goats with spider genes and silk in their milk

Also there are scientists who have managed in a laboratory to change the environment artificially and managed to produce a unicellular organism to Multicellular.. , even yourself remember you began from a single cell (its just afterwards information in genes has made you do be who you are, and if that can change there is possibility of people becoming different creatures..)

Remember I have just tried to tackle one segment using bacterias (which we can observe them changing within ones lifetime), If this is not enough you can look on the availability of fossils and use of carbon 14 to determine their age..., the evidence is there for everyone to see, but what can one do, if one decides not to look ?
 
Eiyer said:
Hapana ....

Swali lilikuwa na lipo wazi kabisa

Nadhani unajua maana ya "kweli"

Sasa kama unajua basi utakuwa una jibu la swali uliloulizwa na kweli "haitegemei" mtu yoyote bali inategemea "kweli" tu

Masuala ya Hinduism yanakujaje kwenye swali?
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Mkuu hivi unajua maana ya Imani (Faith) ?

faith (f
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th)n.1. Confident belief in the truth, value, or trustworthiness of a person, idea, or thing.
2. Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence. See Synonyms at belief, trust.

3. Loyalty to a person or thing; allegiance: keeping faith with one's supporters.
4. often Faith Christianity The theological virtue defined as secure belief in God and a trusting acceptance of God's will.
5. The body of dogma of a religion: the Muslim faith.
6. A set of principles or belief

Sasa Mkuu hii ni sawa sawa tukute mtu amefunika kikombe alafu atuambie ndani kuna milioni moja alafu watu tuanze kubishana.., mwingine anasema yeye alimwona jamaa kaweka milioni tatu.., mwingine anasema milioni moja haiwezi kutosha humo hakuna kitu..., mwingine anasema ameoteshwa ni elfu hamsini, mwingine anasema huyu jamaa huwa ni mwongo kikombe hakina kitu.... SASA kabla kikombe hakijafunguliwa mimi mpita njia siwezi kusema nani mkweli.., na hayo mabishano hayatakwisha hata kaka mimi binafsi najua ukweli ni nini.., ila ukweli wangu hauna impact kwa wale wanaoamini vinginevyo..., na unaposema Hindu wameingiaje wameingia hapo sababu na wenyewe wana imani yao ambayo ni tofauti na hao wengine..

Ukiulizwa kati ya wanaosema dunia ni flat na wanaosema dunia ni duara ni nani mkweli utasema inategemea na unaemuuliza?
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Ingekuwa Dunia kuwa flat au duara nayo ni Imani na hatujui ipo vipi (kama ilivyokuwa sababu through lack of evidence..., ningesema inategemea unamuuliza nani kipindi kile ungeuliza kanisa Katoliki lingekwambia kwamba jua ndio linazunguka dunia.., ungemuuliza Gallileo angekwambia hapana Jua ndio halizunguki.., ila baada ya kupata evidence huwezi ukasema dunia ni flat utasema kwa misingi ipi ?

Hebu acha masikhara kwenye mambo ya msingi

Kama una jibu weka mezani na ushahidi

Kama huna jibu sema tu na yatakwisha ....

Hebu jibu sasa!!
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Nadhani kama umenisoma hapo juu na kunielewa hili swali lako limeshajibiwa hapo juu ?

Kumbuka hapo mwanzo nilisema huwa sijihusishi na mijadala ya watu wa imani tofauti (sababu kwangu ni kupoteza muda) unaweza kubishana vipi na mtu anayesema amefunuliwa au ameona maona au ameoteshwa ?, unaweza kubishana vipi na mtu wakati vitabu (so called evidence) mnazotumia ni tofauti ? unaweza kubishana vipi na Imani ya mtu wakati yeye anachokiamini kwake ndio sahihi ?, Unaweza kusema vipi mtu anachokiamini sio wakati na wewe unachokiamini wewe kwake sio ? Ni kama watu wote mpo gizani alafu baada ya muda wote mnasema mmeona mwanga alafu mnabishana kwamba mwanga wangu ndio sahihi ?
 
Tuangoma said:
IF DEATH IS NOT A BELIEF then Define DEATH for me please if you dare.

Can you Show me "DEATH"
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death is simply the cessation of all biological activities that sustain a living organism.[SUP][/SUP] Bodies of living organisms begin to decompose shortly after death. ( there is no going to a mysterious house where you live forever buddy )

try this link pal # Tuangoma

Death - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Nyani Ngabu said:
You're damn right! Millions of years just doesn't make sense to me. And note the language there...'millions of years'.

I mean, it doesn't get any more obscure and confusing than that. What's millions of years? 500 million years? A thousand million years? To me it's like due to lack of information a humongous number is being thrown around to try to explain something we know very little of.



Of course I'm doubting the dating methods.



Who was there when everything was taking place?



You tell me! How did they get that 3 billion number?



What do you mean 'what do I say' about fossils...? Do you accept everything hook, line, and sinker?
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So mwisho wa siku unakataa vitu kwasababu tu HUJUI!!! au ni cognitive dissonance? au its just as far as your brain can comprehend??

Unanikumbusha tulivyosoma Isotopes na half lives za elements Form 3. I was a hardcore Christian back then and it was evident to me tulivyoambiwa tu definition ya half life kuwa "no elememt should have a half life of more than 3000yrs b'se the earth was created 6000yrs ago". nilishangaa kukukuta isotope yenye half life ya 7000+yrs. Its impossible!! I just didnt want to accept that.

Nimerudi tu nyumbani the first thing was google "Does Thorium-229 really have a half life of 7340yrs?" heeeh!!! nikakutana na Uranium-238, ina half life 4,470,000,000yrs!!!!! housegirl the devil is making you see things. close that and go concentrate on the 3rd coming of Christ!! (hear that? the third coming!!!)

But I knew how to calculate half lives. I knew about the margin of errors.

baada ya kusoma waves, I guese so many zeros wont surprise you. infact the one with the less zeros was wrong. lol

few weeks ago nilikuwa nabishana na mtu. Anakataa kuwa vyote ambavyo astronomers wanaona kwenye stars zingine, actually happened millions of years ago!!! mtu hajui light years ni nini halafu ananibishia!!

the nearest star to us, apart from the sun is 38,000,000,000,000km away!!! light travels 300,000km per second. what makes you think the light tuliyoiona from that star ni imetoka sasa hivi? au mwaka huu?? haelewi!!!!

I guese its just of matter of reading and getting used to the reality. If you cant comprehend it, basi its just isnt for you!!!

Nyani Ngabu jinsi unaongelea evolution shows your ignorance on every aspect of it. From the physics to the chemistry to the biology to the Geography to The MATH to the history. You even keep on repeating the same argument after showing you that its not that way!

How about you get a good book? Au nikupe link nzuri!!

http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/misconceptions_teacherfaq.php

http://www.talkorigins.org/

Walas Ba


(EDITED: flawed. an isotope CAN have a half life greater than the element's birthdate)
 
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Kiranga said:
"your arrogance questions".

Hilarious.

An all knowing, all capable all loving godhead creating such a piece of shyt as yourself would be the height of contradictory cruelty.
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This one cracks me up every single time¡¡¡¡¡
 
Tuangoma said:
That question you need to ask GOD if you can.I am not hear to answer on behalf of GOD.

If He choose to Create the World that way who do you think you are to question HIM?

You have No valid question what so ever,

The Original Question about Problem Evil has the explanation above.

Try to think a little bit before asking.
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an all-just God cannot be all-loving, in such a world! Its illogical
 
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