Mosacha obhonsu
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Well saidElimu Elimu Elimu what i hate the most is this tendency of believing whoever criticises magufuli then he is perceived as an anti-development icon!!!!!
What Tundu lisu was trying to stress out among others was about democracy which has been deprived from most political parties in TZ mainly opposition and this is a fact whether magufuli has bought bombardiers , SGR and so on it doesnr change the fact that he has a dictatorial and authoritarian characteristics
So instead of piling questions to Lisu which most are to justify magufuli legitimacy and credibilty its better you use this precious time ro advise ghe president to practice democracy as stated in our constitution
What i hate about most magufuli supporters they try to hide his weaknesses within his achievements......whoever criticizes magufuli because of 1 or 2 issues they quickly run to explain his achievements...... lisu said magufuli is a dictator i havent seen anywhere in ur article where you have adressed that motion rather 90% ur either attacking lissu and chadema or praising magufuli leadership skills
Instead of wasting ur energy better advise ur president to be lenient with democracy otherwise let him declare its an authoritarian state and banish all political parties rather than claiming its a democratic country while he is not abiding to the constitution of the country
AS PER NOW NO ONE HAS BEEN ABLE TO CLEARLY CONVINCE US THAT LISU IS WRONG ABOUT MAGUFULI..... ALL ARE JUST BEATING AROUND THE BUSH
ungetafsiri kwa kiswahili ingekua poa sana ili kuwapa nafasi wenzetu wa Lumumba nao waweze kuchangia hapa!
My friend all these are simply an attack to Lisu and CHADEMA,our President Maguli's ambitions to this country is not clear and no one know where do started, where we are now and where we are going? We need our president to follow what is our constitutional. Lisu address a clear message to all Tanzanian with all the truth and IKULU failed to his message from msemaji wa serikali to responding to what Lisu address.Kwa maneno mengine madai ya Lisu ni ukweli mtupu na wameshindwa kuyajibu kwa hiyo tunaomba yafanyiwe kazi kwa maslahi ya Nchi.Honestly speaking, I real appreciate Ngosha's administration by 100% irrespective to his weakness he has. Additionally, regardless of my little knowledge I have about politics, politicians, and with the support from the preceding governments after that of the founding father of this nation, the late Mwalimu Julius Kambarage Nyerere, now, I can see a green light coming again for this country under Magufuli's era.
While some people, more specifically the opposition leaders still ignore Magufuli administration plans and efforts on creating a new bright, and strong Tanzania economically, it is now a time for other Tanzanians to support and encourage our president to keep it up, and of course, we will, regardless of what other say. Moreover, the situation which we reached as a nation, it was obvious that we wanted Magufuli's approach to move this country a step ahead. Furthermore, in order to reach our national economic strategic ambition of 2025, we wanted a creative, strong and practically-oriented leadership style, that set the plans and start implementing them rather than that which end by politicizing them only, of which Magufuli leadership style deserve those credits.
As I'm enjoying to see what I wanted to be done in Tanzania, much is needed to support our president on moving this country ahead. Normally, a good and wise human character, appreciate nice stuffs those that are done by a leader, and provide constructive critics without, tamper, haterate, despising, disrespect etc on some issues seems to be not correct, of which Ubuntu has to be applied on them. Besides, being an opposition leader, does not mean that you opposite each and every what the ruling government do. On top of that you as a leader, you can oppose each and everything, but we, as the mere citizens, we truly see, and we know, what our innermost heart tell us about our President Maguli's ambitions to this country.
It is my time now to ask politicians of this country, and more specifically opposition leader, of whom Tundu Lisu is my prime target, and I have some few questions here: 1) will you teach us to see what Magufuli administration is doing?; 2) do you think that we do not know where we came from, where are we now, and where are we heading?; 3) do you think that we do not know where did you mess up, after all your efforts you devoted on building your political part, and the you fallen in a graving trap in 2015, because of greedy of securing Magogoni by shortcut? Now you see, the way you messed up, we had a trust in you, but you ended by lying us; 4) Why are you denying yourself? what you wanted to be done in this country, such as curbing corruption, we have now and we are still seeing Ngosha's success on this, can you ignore this achievement?, and 5) why are you now coming with simple, and lower-minded arguments against our president? I can see now you are talking about tribalism, religious sentiments, ukanda, and dictatorship, this click in my mind and tell me that no more ufisadi in this country as you used to see. No matter which tribal, religion, and zone background any leader is coming from, for me if he or she is qualified for serving this nation, let them do their best in bringing development in this nation.
Sometimes, professionalism is blinded by politics, and this what is happening with Tundu Lisu. Matokeo ya kukosa nini wasimamie kwa sasa kama chama, maana ajenda kuu waliizika 2015, saizi imebaki kuvizia tu. Na haya ndiyo matokeo ya kutaka kuingia ikulu kwa shortcut unaacha misimamo au misingi yenu kama chama, mlioijenga kwa miongo mingi. Watu wanapo mess up, wanakuja na simple justification za siasa hazina adui wa kudumu au rafika wa kudumu, lakini implication zake ni kubwa sana. This is what they are reaping now. Unajua sisi wa tz ni waongeaji sana, bila vitendo, now we have a man who speak and do it practically, what else do we what?. Jamaa hawa hawa, walimtukana sana JK kuwa ni dhaifu, TZ kuna ombwe la Uongozi, rushwa zilizokithiri, and I agree with them, but now, Ngosha has curbed all these malicious stamping blocks in our development.
Finally, may God almighty be with our president Dr John Joseph Pombe Magufuli in all his every steps to move this country ahead, give him wisdom strength to lead this nation.
God Bless Africa, Tanzania, and our president Dr John Joseph Pombe Magufuli.
Best,
A mere citizen with no any post in government, but I will keep on supporting and advising him in his plans and effort on leading this nation .
Ujinga ni kutokuona ukweli unapombiwa ukweli unless kama mwandishi hayupo Tanzania, leaders provide vision, manager manage people as things and not like human being. Magufuli is good at dealing with people but he is not a leader who knows the constitution and who can uphold the pillars of democracy. He believes he knows everything in this world, but time is a good judge.
Hii imeniua mbavu tehungetafsiri kwa kiswahili ingekua poa sana ili kuwapa nafasi wenzetu wa Lumumba nao waweze kuchangia hapa!
Nimekueleza serikali haijibu vichaa. Ilichofanya jana ni kutoa taadhari kwa hatua zinazoweza kuchukuliwa kwa ranting behaviours na vichaa. Soma tena statement ya serikali. Haikujiingiza kwenye hizo narratives za kichaa. Na ndio maana, kwa kutoelewa kwako, na pengine baadhi ya wenzako, mliishia kulalamika kuwa serikali haijajibu. Mnatakiwa kuwa na uwezo wa kutafsiri statements nyeti za serikali.Serikali makini hana mbona imemjibu lisu tena majibu ya kitoto ambayo hta mmi na ukilaza wangu nisingejibu kitoto vile yaani wanaulizwa sheria ya vyama imekiukwa wakajibu kwa kuordhesha sheria zilizopo kwenye makaratasi tu ambazo tanzania imeziweka ili kuruhusu uhuru wa kisiasa/maoni but hawakuzungumzia implementation yake!!!! Sasa hayo ni majibu kweli mfano bunge live wakajibu "nchi ngapi zinaonyesha bunge" heehehehee au unakubali kuwa serikali yetu sio serikali makini????
Mpelekeni lisu jela tu hatokuwa wa kwanza na wa mwisho mbona mlishawafungaga kina kigaila cjui lema na mdee ila mmefaidika nni so far??? Viwanda vimeongezeka??? Jibuni hoja kma mmeshindwa kaa kimya musubiri kuandaa maandamano kumpongeza mwenyekiti wenu hayo mengine sio level yako tusubiri wati wenye reasoning kma kabudi ndio waje kujibu
Nimekueleza serikali haijibu vichaa. Ilichofanya jana ni kutoa taadhari kwa hatua zinazoweza kuchukuliwa kwa ranting behaviours na vichaa. Soma tena statement ya serikali. Haikujiingiza kwenye hizo narratives za kichaa. Na ndio maana, kwa kutoelewa kwako, na pengine baadhi ya wenzako, mliishia kulalamika kuwa serikali haijajibu. Mnatakiwa kuwa na uwezo wa kutafsiri statements nyeti za serikali.Serikali makini hana mbona imemjibu lisu tena majibu ya kitoto ambayo hta mmi na ukilaza wangu nisingejibu kitoto vile yaani wanaulizwa sheria ya vyama imekiukwa wakajibu kwa kuordhesha sheria zilizopo kwenye makaratasi tu ambazo tanzania imeziweka ili kuruhusu uhuru wa kisiasa/maoni but hawakuzungumzia implementation yake!!!! Sasa hayo ni majibu kweli mfano bunge live wakajibu "nchi ngapi zinaonyesha bunge" heehehehee au unakubali kuwa serikali yetu sio serikali makini????
Mpelekeni lisu jela tu hatokuwa wa kwanza na wa mwisho mbona mlishawafungaga kina kigaila cjui lema na mdee ila mmefaidika nni so far??? Viwanda vimeongezeka??? Jibuni hoja kma mmeshindwa kaa kimya musubiri kuandaa maandamano kumpongeza mwenyekiti wenu hayo mengine sio level yako tusubiri wati wenye reasoning kma kabudi ndio waje kujibu
First class crapHonestly speaking, I real appreciate Ngosha's administration by 100% irrespective to his weakness he has. Additionally, regardless of my little knowledge I have about politics, politicians, and with the support from the preceding governments after that of the founding father of this nation, the late Mwalimu Julius Kambarage Nyerere, now, I can see a green light coming again for this country under Magufuli's era.
While some people, more specifically the opposition leaders still ignore Magufuli administration plans and efforts on creating a new bright, and strong Tanzania economically, it is now a time for other Tanzanians to support and encourage our president to keep it up, and of course, we will, regardless of what other say. Moreover, the situation which we reached as a nation, it was obvious that we wanted Magufuli's approach to move this country a step ahead. Furthermore, in order to reach our national economic strategic ambition of 2025, we wanted a creative, strong and practically-oriented leadership style, that set the plans and start implementing them rather than that which end by politicizing them only, of which Magufuli leadership style deserve those credits.
As I'm enjoying to see what I wanted to be done in Tanzania, much is needed to support our president on moving this country ahead. Normally, a good and wise human character, appreciate nice stuffs those that are done by a leader, and provide constructive critics without, tamper, haterate, despising, disrespect etc on some issues seems to be not correct, of which Ubuntu has to be applied on them. Besides, being an opposition leader, does not mean that you opposite each and every what the ruling government do. On top of that you as a leader, you can oppose each and everything, but we, as the mere citizens, we truly see, and we know, what our innermost heart tell us about our President Maguli's ambitions to this country.
It is my time now to ask politicians of this country, and more specifically opposition leader, of whom Tundu Lisu is my prime target, and I have some few questions here: 1) will you teach us to see what Magufuli administration is doing?; 2) do you think that we do not know where we came from, where are we now, and where are we heading?; 3) do you think that we do not know where did you mess up, after all your efforts you devoted on building your political part, and the you fallen in a graving trap in 2015, because of greedy of securing Magogoni by shortcut? Now you see, the way you messed up, we had a trust in you, but you ended by lying us; 4) Why are you denying yourself? what you wanted to be done in this country, such as curbing corruption, we have now and we are still seeing Ngosha's success on this, can you ignore this achievement?, and 5) why are you now coming with simple, and lower-minded arguments against our president? I can see now you are talking about tribalism, religious sentiments, ukanda, and dictatorship, this click in my mind and tell me that no more ufisadi in this country as you used to see. No matter which tribal, religion, and zone background any leader is coming from, for me if he or she is qualified for serving this nation, let them do their best in bringing development in this nation.
Sometimes, professionalism is blinded by politics, and this what is happening with Tundu Lisu. Matokeo ya kukosa nini wasimamie kwa sasa kama chama, maana ajenda kuu waliizika 2015, saizi imebaki kuvizia tu. Na haya ndiyo matokeo ya kutaka kuingia ikulu kwa shortcut unaacha misimamo au misingi yenu kama chama, mlioijenga kwa miongo mingi. Watu wanapo mess up, wanakuja na simple justification za siasa hazina adui wa kudumu au rafika wa kudumu, lakini implication zake ni kubwa sana. This is what they are reaping now. Unajua sisi wa tz ni waongeaji sana, bila vitendo, now we have a man who speak and do it practically, what else do we what?. Jamaa hawa hawa, walimtukana sana JK kuwa ni dhaifu, TZ kuna ombwe la Uongozi, rushwa zilizokithiri, and I agree with them, but now, Ngosha has curbed all these malicious stamping blocks in our development.
Finally, may God almighty be with our president Dr John Joseph Pombe Magufuli in all his every steps to move this country ahead, give him wisdom strength to lead this nation.
God Bless Africa, Tanzania, and our president Dr John Joseph Pombe Magufuli.
Best,
A mere citizen with no any post in government, but I will keep on supporting and advising him in his plans and effort on leading this nation .
Hio lugha inatusaidia kupata maarifa ila sio lazima tujue kuizungumza...tatizo vijana wa ufipa mnayo matatizo makubwa vichwani mwenu..Huna lolote unalialia nini ?? Kama huijui unaandika ya nini ??
Ninyi hamna tofauti na wale wanaosoma mpka PhD kwa kutumia English halafu hawaijui sasa sijui walikuwa wana kariri dah ni shida
Chinese economic foundations were laid under one political party, there is no scientific proof that for a Nation to develop there must be a multiparty systemHujui na hasara na hatari ya Chama Kimoja inaelekea hukuishi wakati huo!
Kwani wewe unadhani kaandika ujinga upi huo?
Chinese economic foundations were laid under one political party, there is no scientific proof that for a Nation to develop there must be a multiparty system
1. U mean magufuli is not a dictator then why did he ban political rallies of opposition parties as against the law governing the operations of political parties...... whilst at the same time his political party CCM is carryinh out rallies all over tanzania with no objections at all???? Thats what lisu said and u still claim magufuli is not a dictator without facts banning political rallies is one of the examples lisu gave among many others u should start adressing that one.
I would love to see the issue of directorship being justified by some kind of institutions-such as the court at least. What is happening now and this was timed by Lissu addressing to the media, is careful planned sequence of events. In fact, what is seen is the opposition and particularly CHADEMA trying to employ political propaganda in order to decrease the influence of governing systems elected through democratic means to implement their manifesto. A dictatorial CHADEMA, is employing different tactics such as tribalism, religion, personal attack to undermine the democratic elected government, the same way dictators used these tactics in order to maintain their rule.
I am advocate of strong opposition, but not the way Tundu Lisu and CHADEMA is trying to take me (and I believe many of us) through.
2. Tribalism is not only based on numbers it depends on the amount of influence that tribe or religion has over the decision making of the president thats why i said if u claim that only 2 are his relatives without forgetting that in uganda museveni has only 3 relatives in the government but he is called a despot/tribalist because of tje amount of influemce those three have in his decision making so before answering lisu u should consider that and he gave an example of investment decisions which was made by one of his relatives how do adress such a motion??? By numbers of relatives available in the gov't or by the influence of that relative in the gov't????
Thank again for negating what Lisu want to portray. It is not the issue of a Lake zone. It is about individual (s) and the influence they have in making decisions. So long as those decisions are within the framework of governance, it matters less to me. Take them to court if they are not.
If I was to advise the current government, I would wish them allow even individuals with civil and political positions in the government to do business. It is their right provided conflict of interest is declared using clear frameworks. If there are issues on the existing law lets talk about it Regarding investment decisions being made by a relative, I would ask myself, is there a law that was broken? and if yes what Tundu Lisu is doing?
3. Yes lissu quoted many sections of the constitution which magufuli has tresspassed but you the defender's of magufuli thr is no where u have adressed them.... lets start with the political parties act as ammended in 2007!!! Which allows and gives freedom to political parties to carry out rallies and deminstrations countrtwide without limits but magu personally ordered that no politics till 2020!!!!! Now hasn't he bypassed the law??? No foul cry???
And we say, addressing the media is the right way to do it? Register this in the right place such as the court-and we watch who is dictating the decision. There are framework laid down for holding demonstration and is not about a single item-is a process. I do not expect addressing the media will help to interpret the right given to parties by the act as amended in 2007
COME WITH FACTS BROTHER TANZANIANS ARE TIRED OF BLAH BLAH now lisu is raising facts instead of adressing them you defenders are just bringing assumptions that he had negative intentions??? Since when is it illegal to express ur views and perceptions??
I wish also you in the opposition to stop BLAH BLAH. I did not declare my interest. I always vote across parties, focusing who can address the problem of the wananchi and leave them at peace