Commentary Kuhusu Video ya Tundu Lissu Inayosambazwa

[Niccolo Machiavelli]

You know English,Sir!..but your analysis of politricks is poor!

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[lilulilu]

Honestly speaking, I real appreciate Ngosha's administration by 100% irrespective to his weakness he has. Additionally, regardless of my little knowledge I have about politics, politicians, and with the support from the preceding governments after that of the founding father of this nation, the late Mwalimu Julius Kambarage Nyerere, now, I can see a green light coming again for this country under Magufuli's era.

While some people, more specifically the opposition leaders still ignore Magufuli administration plans and efforts on creating a new bright, and strong Tanzania economically, it is now a time for other Tanzanians to support and encourage our president to keep it up, and of course, we will, regardless of what other say. Moreover, the situation which we reached as a nation, it was obvious that we wanted Magufuli's approach to move this country a step ahead. Furthermore, in order to reach our national economic strategic ambition of 2025, we wanted a creative, strong and practically-oriented leadership style, that set the plans and start implementing them rather than that which end by politicizing them only, of which Magufuli leadership style deserve those credits.

As I'm enjoying to see what I wanted to be done in Tanzania, much is needed to support our president on moving this country ahead. Normally, a good and wise human character, appreciate nice stuffs those that are done by a leader, and provide constructive critics without, tamper, haterate, despising, disrespect etc on some issues seems to be not correct, of which Ubuntu has to be applied on them. Besides, being an opposition leader, does not mean that you opposite each and every what the ruling government do. On top of that you as a leader, you can oppose each and everything, but we, as the mere citizens, we truly see, and we know, what our innermost heart tell us about our President Maguli's ambitions to this country.

It is my time now to ask politicians of this country, and more specifically opposition leader, of whom Tundu Lisu is my prime target, and I have some few questions here: 1) will you teach us to see what Magufuli administration is doing?; 2) do you think that we do not know where we came from, where are we now, and where are we heading?; 3) do you think that we do not know where did you mess up, after all your efforts you devoted on building your political part, and the you fallen in a graving trap in 2015, because of greedy of securing Magogoni by shortcut? Now you see, the way you messed up, we had a trust in you, but you ended by lying us; 4) Why are you denying yourself? what you wanted to be done in this country, such as curbing corruption, we have now and we are still seeing Ngosha's success on this, can you ignore this achievement?, and 5) why are you now coming with simple, and lower-minded arguments against our president? I can see now you are talking about tribalism, religious sentiments, ukanda, and dictatorship, this click in my mind and tell me that no more ufisadi in this country as you used to see. No matter which tribal, religion, and zone background any leader is coming from, for me if he or she is qualified for serving this nation, let them do their best in bringing development in this nation.

Sometimes, professionalism is blinded by politics, and this what is happening with Tundu Lisu. Matokeo ya kukosa nini wasimamie kwa sasa kama chama, maana ajenda kuu waliizika 2015, saizi imebaki kuvizia tu. Na haya ndiyo matokeo ya kutaka kuingia ikulu kwa shortcut unaacha misimamo au misingi yenu kama chama, mlioijenga kwa miongo mingi. Watu wanapo mess up, wanakuja na simple justification za siasa hazina adui wa kudumu au rafika wa kudumu, lakini implication zake ni kubwa sana. This is what they are reaping now. Unajua sisi wa tz ni waongeaji sana, bila vitendo, now we have a man who speak and do it practically, what else do we what?. Jamaa hawa hawa, walimtukana sana JK kuwa ni dhaifu, TZ kuna ombwe la Uongozi, rushwa zilizokithiri, and I agree with them, but now, Ngosha has curbed all these malicious stamping blocks in our development.

Finally, may God almighty be with our president Dr John Joseph Pombe Magufuli in all his every steps to move this country ahead, give him wisdom strength to lead this nation.

God Bless Africa, Tanzania, and our president Dr John Joseph Pombe Magufuli.

Best,
A mere citizen with no any post in government, but I will keep on supporting and advising him in his plans and effort on leading this nation .

I never see any logic on ur article.you around a bush and that I the problem only people who have narrow mind will hide weakness of somebody by his achievement.lisu split out with evidence how the man destruct our nation on matter of tribalism,a utilitarian.u still protect him with ur illogical argument.

 

[Benjamini Netanyahu]

Am 100% kwamba hufutilia siasa za Tanzania. I can tell you about Magufuli..

Kwanza anataka kuligawa Taifa, ukiwa mpinzani basi unaonekana kama muhaini, labda huyo angekuwa rais kipindi cha kina Nduli Amin sio kwa karne hii, Nepotism hii nayo ni mbaya sana, na mara nyingi madikteta wanatumia system kuwaweka jamaa zao kufanikisha matakwa yao.kauli chafu kwa walimchagua ni mengi tu ambayo nikisema niendike siwezi kumaliza.magufuli aache kazi yake isema kwa wananchi na si kuwatisha, hata akifanya mabaya basi ashangiliwe.

Kweli tupu

 

[kotelyimola]

Mr Kotelyimola just a fortnight ago lisu praised magufuli for arresting seth and rugemalira for obvious reasons didnt u see that lisu gave credit to magufuli even kafulila and zitto praused magufuli for that??? Didnt bulaya praise magufuli for the decision of supplying desks to primary schools the campaign which was done countrywide??? Didnt mnyika praise magufuli for the bringing forth the ammendments of different acts with a nature of protecting our natural resources for example gas and petroleum act of 2015????

They have given him credit most times mind you but still magufuli is banning thr political activities if you wea lisu what would u do??? If he lets them free to operate politicaly dont u think thy will be in a good spirit to support magufuli because he would have done them more good tha harm??? But for now dont u think its funny for them to support magufuli while they cant even be free to host a political rally or indoor meeting???

Duh hta mie nitawashangaa sana wapinzani i will be schocked

Kwanza lazima uwe na heshima na kiongozi wako maana rais si mtu ni kioo cha Wa tanzania. Ukilija hilo unajenga hoja zako. Ulimsikia zito hata kafulila wao wamekomaa kisiasa au jinsi mbowe na Lowassa wanavyomshambulia JPM kiutu uzima. TL bado hajakomaa ndiyo maana huwa kuna msemaji wa chama mwenye kujua jinsi ya kuongea. Hivi unajua udikteta au unacheza. Kwa vile JPM alimshinda katika makinikia basi kila siku huyu kijana TL ni kumponda. Nikuulize unga ukiwa robo unakaa mbali? TL anajua maana ya PST? Sioni kosa la JPM kudhibiti hazina na kumuweka anayeweza kumkunja usisahau unga robo be realistic my frinds

 

[BAK]

Njaa inakusumbua sana wewe ndiyo sababu hujitambui na wakati mwingine kuandika humu ili kujipendekeza kwa divkteta uchwara. Unafiki na undumilakuwili KAMWE havitakusaidia.

Mkuu BAK, kwa heshma na taadhima, nakujibu kistaarabu kabisa kuwa kuitwa ndumilakuwili nimeisha zoea.

Lissu atawaingiza chaka, Magufuli sio dikiteta uchwala!. Uchwala ni isiyo halisi, isiyo yenyewe yaani fake!.
Magufuli ni mwenyewe na halisi, sio fake!.

Paskali

 

[zitto junior]

Nimekueleza serikali haijibu vichaa. Ilichofanya jana ni kutoa taadhari kwa hatua zinazoweza kuchukuliwa kwa ranting behaviours na vichaa. Soma tena statement ya serikali. Haikujiingiza kwenye hizo narratives za kichaa. Na ndio maana, kwa kutoelewa kwako, na pengine baadhi ya wenzako, mliishia kulalamika kuwa serikali haijajibu. Mnatakiwa kuwa na uwezo wa kutafsiri statements nyeti za serikali.

Hahahhaha haikujibu wakati ilikanusha vikali kuwa kuna ukandamizaji wa demokrasia na wakaenda mbali kwa kutaja vifungu vya katiba vinavyoharamisha tamko la lisu???? sasa huko sio kujibu ama ulitaka tamko liseme TUNAMJIBU LISU KMA IFUATAVYO????

Mlishamjibu ila mlimjibu kwa hoja dhaifu sana kma mnabisha muandae mdahalo kupitia twaweza yenu ile iwekwe mada juu ya demokrasia afu mchangiaji awe lisu na ccm mumlete hta huyo magu au polepole muone kma hamjakimbia ukumbi!!!!!

Kwa ufupi nyie hamumwezi lisu hivyo ni heri muwe mnaacha hoja zake zipite tu maana sio lazima kujibu kila kitu kma hukielewi eti mnajibu baada ya kuona majibu mepesi sana mnaanza kujitia moyo eti sisi ndio hatujaelewa hahahahahha mnatia sana huruma ccm

 

[zitto junior]

Kwanza lazima uwe na heshima na kiongozi wako maana rais si mtu ni kioo cha Wa tanzania. Ukilija hilo unajenga hoja zako. Ulimsikia zito hata kafulila wao wamekomaa kisiasa au jinsi mbowe na Lowassa wanavyomshambulia JPM kiutu uzima. TL bado hajakomaa ndiyo maana huwa kuna msemaji wa chama mwenye kujua jinsi ya kuongea. Hivi unajua udikteta au unacheza. Kwa vile JPM alimshinda katika makinikia basi kila siku huyu kijana TL ni kumponda. Nikuulize unga ukiwa robo unakaa mbali? TL anajua maana ya PST? Sioni kosa la JPM kudhibiti hazina na kumuweka anayeweza kumkunja usisahau unga robo be realistic my frinds

Magufuli kamshinda lisu kwenye makinikia??? Kumbe kulikuwa na competition?? Kumbe sakata limeisha na tumelipwa trilion 100 alizodai tumeibiwa na Acacia??? Kumbe kina kafumu na chenge wameshakamatwa kma ripoti ilivyotaka??? Asee kumbe ilikuwa competition sikujua !! Hivi ukishauri jambo jema afu ushauri wako ukapuuzwa basi ndio umeshindwa ?? yaani ukimshauri mjamzito aende clinic akakataa basi siku akizaa salama wwe uliyemshauri umekuwa defeated????

Unasema magufuli sio dikteta hivi dikteta ni mtu au vitendo na viashiria??? Mikutano ipo kisheria kma inavyosema sheria ya vyama vya siasa as ammended 2007 sehem ya pili nzima inaongelea haki za vyama vya siasa je magufuli kuzuia mikutano hii at an invididual capacity sio udikteta?? Pangua hyo hoja ya lisu ndio useme magufuli sio dikteta otherwise ni ngonjera tu

Kuhusu uwasilishaji wa lisu kweli nakuunga mkono 200% ur right!!! Huwa anawasilisha kwa jazba sana na kwa lugha ya kuudhi ila sometimes kuna uvumilivu unazidi kiwango hivi mnategemea kwa kumpeleka selo kila cku na kumpiga virungu awajibu kwa kutumia lugha ipi??? Yaani aongee kipole kma lowasa wakati kila cku mnamburuza polisi kwa kesi za kuunga unga???sometimes simlaumu kwa kuwa short tempered maana ccm ndio mmemfanya awe hivo

Ni hayo tu

 

[Mchanya]

Tundu Lissu ameweka hoja zake mezani, amesema lililoko moyoni mwake, kwa hiyo kama una hoja tofauti, ni busara kuzijibu hoja zilizowekwa mezani, moja baada ya nyingine, badala ya kutoka nje ya mstari, kwa aidha au kumshambulia binafsi mleta mada au kumtetea alayelalamikiwa. Tundu Lissu anatusaidia kuisukuma serikali iwe inaendesha mambo yake na wa haki na kuzingatia utawala bora na wa sheria. Tunawahita akina Tundu Lissu wengi ili watusemee, maana tilio wengi hakuna M,

 

[zitto junior]

1.Which courts of law hasnt lissu gone to?? Mnyika went to the East African court to file a case against magufuli for the authoritarian type of regime also mbowe went to the constitutional court to challenge the political rallies ban so do u think anythin has changed since???

2. Dont divert my opinion its like this..... lisu said magufuli is tribalistic but as for ur case u objected is idea by saying he is not tribalistic because they are only few lake zoners amongst the 500,000-strong civil servants hence my post was against ur idea that in tribalism numbers count thus i raised a motion that in tribalism the influence of the tribe counts not the number of the tribemate making ur motion of saying that thr are few lakezoners in the government VAGUE and inelligible to answer lisu's argument

3.media yes it will help because at least if the entire nation is enlightened about the govt dictatorship is better since thr will be a mass action of the entire population to rally behind opposition and demand for democracy to be respected!!!! However going to court has been done before a numerous times as i have given an example and neither the former case or the latter has brought any change to the democracy in the country

Its still BLAH BLAH brother...... wake up and join forces against the dictatorship

 

[Kihava]

Keju: Frankly speaking, what I have observed from your weakest arguments is that you are blind in arenas of both academic and professionally with regards to national and internal ideology and reality about democracy and more specifically democratic state. Your are weak too in the concept of leadership. Above all, you have personal interest (and not national interest) with the guy (vampire) whom you are advocating for. Based on your writings, I advise you to read widely the rules (grammar) of English before you opt to write in it. Otherwise opt for another language you are conversant with. It is shame to, publicly, opting the language you are not familiar with.

Go further and get time to search for what do the following mean?
1. Democracy
2. Rule of Law
3. Constitution
4. Leadership
5. Multiparty system
6. Human Rights
7. Constitutional rights

 

[Kihava]

Juzi hapa amewaita watu pale Dodoma kuwa wana vyeti feki na ni wezi kama majizi mengine tu. akaamuru watangazwe kwa kuandikwa kwenye magazeti na vyombo vingine vya habari. Lakini imekuja kuonekana watu zaidi ya 400 walionewa kabisa. Hawa wanasafishwaje mbele ya jamii? Huo ndio uongozi anaoupenda huyu mleta mada? Kwa nini wasingefanya uchunguzi wa kina kwanza ili kutomwonea na kumdhalilisha mtu?Kiingereza chenyewe ni CCM (duni) tupu. Tuliambiwa na utafiti wa Twaweza kwamba CCM inapendwa na wenye elimu hafifu, nimeamini.

 

[Panzi Mchanga]

1.Which courts of law hasnt lissu gone to?? Mnyika went to the East African court to file a case against magufuli for the authoritarian type of regime also mbowe went to the constitutional court to challenge the political rallies ban so do u think anythin has changed since???

And what was the ruling? Was that ruling upheld or not? And I really I making reference to the fifth regime. I am tracking the flip flop in the opposition politics and the flip has turned the grave politics of recently (specifically CHADEMA)-refer my earlier comments. Your paragraph refers to political rallies, however Tundu Lissu (and CHADEMA) is talking about tribalism and religion in addition!.

2. Dont divert my opinion its like this..... lisu said magufuli is tribalistic but as for ur case u objected is idea by saying he is not tribalistic because they are only few lake zoners amongst the 500,000-strong civil servants hence my post was against ur idea that in tribalism numbers count thus i raised a motion that in tribalism the influence of the tribe counts not the number of the tribemate making ur motion of saying that thr are few lakezoners in the government VAGUE and inelligible to answer lisu's argument.

"thus i raised a motion that in tribalism the influence of the tribe counts not the number of the tribemate"

AND THANKS AGAIN. I feel we can now get rid of the issue of tribe mates (refer Tundu Lissu listing) under the current government. We can now focus on tribalism in politics-something different. This game is allowable; is one area of the political strategy one can use even in the developed world; we hear about Cuban-Americans, African Americans, Latinos etc. In politics is how you influence ALL tribes. (Not the way Tundu Lisu put it). You can even go far-the young, the old, the women, the men, the educated, the poor and the rich. In Kenya youth are represent 50% of those registered for the upcoming election. Who can ignore that. How you can exploit this diversity? depends on your strategy and the objective is to have them all in a unified country. At this end no more argument on this issue from my side

3.media yes it will help because at least if the entire nation is enlightened about the govt dictatorship is better since thr will be a mass action of the entire population to rally behind opposition and demand for democracy to be respected!!!! However going to court has been done before a numerous times as i have given an example and neither the former case or the latter has brought any change to the democracy in the country.

I agree with you 100%. However I (and I believe no one) will rally to burn his own house. The ultimate goal of a democracy is a better society who fill secure in their own nation.

Its still BLAH BLAH brother...... wake up and join forces against the dictatorship

 

[Sophist]

Hahahhaha haikujibu wakati ilikanusha vikali kuwa kuna ukandamizaji wa demokrasia na wakaenda mbali kwa kutaja vifungu vya katiba vinavyoharamisha tamko la lisu???? sasa huko sio kujibu ama ulitaka tamko liseme TUNAMJIBU LISU KMA IFUATAVYO????

Mlishamjibu ila mlimjibu kwa hoja dhaifu sana kma mnabisha muandae mdahalo kupitia twaweza yenu ile iwekwe mada juu ya demokrasia afu mchangiaji awe lisu na ccm mumlete hta huyo magu au polepole muone kma hamjakimbia ukumbi!!!!!

Kwa ufupi nyie hamumwezi lisu hivyo ni heri muwe mnaacha hoja zake zipite tu maana sio lazima kujibu kila kitu kma hukielewi eti mnajibu baada ya kuona majibu mepesi sana mnaanza kujitia moyo eti sisi ndio hatujaelewa hahahahahha mnatia sana huruma ccm

obviously gone to abyss, you.

 

[kimsboy]

na kingereza chako cha kuunga unga hapa

 

[jiwe jeusi]

Elimu Elimu Elimu what i hate the most is this tendency of believing whoever criticises magufuli then he is perceived as an anti-development icon!!!!!

What Tundu lisu was trying to stress out among others was about democracy which has been deprived from most political parties in TZ mainly opposition and this is a fact whether magufuli has bought bombardiers , SGR and so on it doesnr change the fact that he has a dictatorial and authoritarian characteristics

So instead of piling questions to Lisu which most are to justify magufuli legitimacy and credibilty its better you use this precious time ro advise ghe president to practice democracy as stated in our constitution

What i hate about most magufuli supporters they try to hide his weaknesses within his achievements......whoever criticizes magufuli because of 1 or 2 issues they quickly run to explain his achievements...... lisu said magufuli is a dictator i havent seen anywhere in ur article where you have adressed that motion rather 90% ur either attacking lissu and chadema or praising magufuli leadership skills

Instead of wasting ur energy better advise ur president to be lenient with democracy otherwise let him declare its an authoritarian state and banish all political parties rather than claiming its a democratic country while he is not abiding to the constitution of the country

AS PER NOW NO ONE HAS BEEN ABLE TO CLEARLY CONVINCE US THAT LISU IS WRONG ABOUT MAGUFULI..... ALL ARE JUST BEATING AROUND THE BUSH

this answer suit him, I appreciate umeongea point tupu natamani hii iwe thread inayojitegemea.

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[maguniolaf]

Am 100% kwamba hufutilia siasa za Tanzania. I can tell you about Magufuli..

Kwanza anataka kuligawa Taifa, ukiwa mpinzani basi unaonekana kama muhaini, labda huyo angekuwa rais kipindi cha kina Nduli Amin sio kwa karne hii, Nepotism hii nayo ni mbaya sana, na mara nyingi madikteta wanatumia system kuwaweka jamaa zao kufanikisha matakwa yao.kauli chafu kwa walimchagua ni mengi tu ambayo nikisema niendike siwezi kumaliza.magufuli aache kazi yake isema kwa wananchi na si kuwatisha, hata akifanya mabaya basi ashangiliwe.

Mlizowea vya kunyonga kumbee.

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[jiwe jeusi]

Is magufuli a dictator and a despot or not if not which facts can u bringforth to justify his legitimacy!! In rwanda tutsis are just 5% but they are the decision makers of everythin so do u thino its numbers or POWER/INFLUENCE that matters!!!!! If you have 2 relatives in ur government but they have power over your decision making is it not enough to call a despot or until u have 3000 relatives???? Do u remember what happened to park geun-hye ??? Only one friend led to her downfall but they didnt say she just had one friend to advise her they looked at the impact and influence of the person not numbers so ur motion is obsolete

Numbers dont determine tribalism its the impact...... tribalism doesnt mean that 1 milion tribemates are in the government but rather thr can be only one tribemate but its the influence and power in the hands of that tribemate which will determine if the president is a tribalist or not

Great answers of the day means clear answers to the motions arise!!! Firstly is maguli a dictator??????

Endelea kuwakomesha mkuu.. nondo tupu vichwa panzi wanaelewa sana ila wanajitoa fahamu.

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[kmbwembwe]

Honestly speaking, I real appreciate Ngosha's administration by 100% irrespective to his weakness he has. Additionally, regardless of my little knowledge I have about politics, politicians, and with the support from the preceding governments after that of the founding father of this nation, the late Mwalimu Julius Kambarage Nyerere, now, I can see a green light coming again for this country under Magufuli's era.

While some people, more specifically the opposition leaders still ignore Magufuli administration plans and efforts on creating a new bright, and strong Tanzania economically, it is now a time for other Tanzanians to support and encourage our president to keep it up, and of course, we will, regardless of what other say. Moreover, the situation which we reached as a nation, it was obvious that we wanted Magufuli's approach to move this country a step ahead. Furthermore, in order to reach our national economic strategic ambition of 2025, we wanted a creative, strong and practically-oriented leadership style, that set the plans and start implementing them rather than that which end by politicizing them only, of which Magufuli leadership style deserve those credits.

As I'm enjoying to see what I wanted to be done in Tanzania, much is needed to support our president on moving this country ahead. Normally, a good and wise human character, appreciate nice stuffs those that are done by a leader, and provide constructive critics without, tamper, haterate, despising, disrespect etc on some issues seems to be not correct, of which Ubuntu has to be applied on them. Besides, being an opposition leader, does not mean that you opposite each and every what the ruling government do. On top of that you as a leader, you can oppose each and everything, but we, as the mere citizens, we truly see, and we know, what our innermost heart tell us about our President Maguli's ambitions to this country.

It is my time now to ask politicians of this country, and more specifically opposition leader, of whom Tundu Lisu is my prime target, and I have some few questions here: 1) will you teach us to see what Magufuli administration is doing?; 2) do you think that we do not know where we came from, where are we now, and where are we heading?; 3) do you think that we do not know where did you mess up, after all your efforts you devoted on building your political part, and the you fallen in a graving trap in 2015, because of greedy of securing Magogoni by shortcut? Now you see, the way you messed up, we had a trust in you, but you ended by lying us; 4) Why are you denying yourself? what you wanted to be done in this country, such as curbing corruption, we have now and we are still seeing Ngosha's success on this, can you ignore this achievement?, and 5) why are you now coming with simple, and lower-minded arguments against our president? I can see now you are talking about tribalism, religious sentiments, ukanda, and dictatorship, this click in my mind and tell me that no more ufisadi in this country as you used to see. No matter which tribal, religion, and zone background any leader is coming from, for me if he or she is qualified for serving this nation, let them do their best in bringing development in this nation.

Sometimes, professionalism is blinded by politics, and this what is happening with Tundu Lisu. Matokeo ya kukosa nini wasimamie kwa sasa kama chama, maana ajenda kuu waliizika 2015, saizi imebaki kuvizia tu. Na haya ndiyo matokeo ya kutaka kuingia ikulu kwa shortcut unaacha misimamo au misingi yenu kama chama, mlioijenga kwa miongo mingi. Watu wanapo mess up, wanakuja na simple justification za siasa hazina adui wa kudumu au rafika wa kudumu, lakini implication zake ni kubwa sana. This is what they are reaping now. Unajua sisi wa tz ni waongeaji sana, bila vitendo, now we have a man who speak and do it practically, what else do we what?. Jamaa hawa hawa, walimtukana sana JK kuwa ni dhaifu, TZ kuna ombwe la Uongozi, rushwa zilizokithiri, and I agree with them, but now, Ngosha has curbed all these malicious stamping blocks in our development.

Finally, may God almighty be with our president Dr John Joseph Pombe Magufuli in all his every steps to move this country ahead, give him wisdom strength to lead this nation.

God Bless Africa, Tanzania, and our president Dr John Joseph Pombe Magufuli.

Best,
A mere citizen with no any post in government, but I will keep on supporting and advising him in his plans and effort on leading this nation .

keju asante sana kwa mchango wako kumpinga kibaraka lissu. anaropoka uongo na uzushi halafu kumbe muoga kukamatwa utadhani kunguru mweusi.