Cost comparison SGR Kenya vs SGR Tanzania

Mji mkubwa ni dar es sluum, je wingi wa watu kwa sgr tz utatoka wapi?
 
Mji mkubwa ni dar es sluum, je wingi wa watu kwa sgr tz utatoka wapi?
Ndugu yangu hayo mabus yanayo kwenda mikoani ni zaidi ya 800 na abiria wake wanatoka wapi kila siku, Tz ni kubwa na population yake ni kubwa
 
Interesting fact 70% of Rwanda's imports pass through Dar es salaam, but 80% of their export mostly tea and coffee pass through mombasa port, because it is the only port in east africa with an internationally recognized tea auction. Also tanzania imports through mombasa port 229,652 tonnes of cargo to be precise. DRC imports through mombasa port went up 10% in 2018 which is measure of the confidence they have in kenya. Burundi imports dipped by 4% but their exports through mombasa port went up by more than 15%.
 
Both imports and exports of Rwanda pass through Dar port at over 70%. BTW tea warehouses r current U/C!

 
Keyword under construction(which needs verification), also the inefficiency at the dar es salaam port make it cheaper for importers and exporters to use mombasa, this was noted by the world bank, that if tanzania attains the efficiency of mombasa it could add $1.8 billion to it's economy but so far little effort has been made. According to the World Bank, trade costs are 60% higher compared to mombasa. Also mombasa has a significantly higher capacity than Dar and more room for expansion than Dar.
 
Probably the biggest strength that Kenya has is the size of it's economy and the fact that we don't restrict movement of capital and labor unlike most of our neighbours, with that you find most rwandans feel closer to kenya and alot of kenyan companies are investing in rwanda.As was noted some time back by the world bank, kenyan companies were the largest foreign direct investors in the region even beating south africa, and as kenyan companies expand it means kenyan products get to a wider market. Also note that kenya is the heart beat of manufacturing in the region i.e Multinationals set up camp in kenya to export to the region, this means more cargo and business for the sgr and the mombasa port which are linked to the hip, infact the sgr has improved efficiency at the port such that within 24hrs containers are in the Nairobi ICD, once it gets to Malaba the hinterland countries i.e Rwanda,Uganda and DRC will get their cargo in 2,1 and days 3 respectively.
 
Last year, Uganda imported 7.4 million tonnes of cargo through Mombasa, translating into 82.1 per cent of the transit cargo to the region. This was an increase from the 6.2 million tonnes in 2017. This shows most of the cargo passing through mombasa port is actually consumed locally in kenya, because mombasa handled about 50 million tonnes of cargo. Also even without Rwanda, Kenya still gets DRC and south sudan because of Uganda. Given that the DRC is a market of 80 million people it means alot of work for the kenyan sgr which is designed for 25 million tonnes of cargo whereas the central corridor sgr is designed for 17 million tonnes, which means we can carry more and we are much more efficient at our port which means reduced cost. so tanzania trains may be 40 km faster but the bottlenecks are so many for it to efficiently compete the northern corridor, which may be slower but can carry more cargo and is more efficient, electrified does not actually mean better.
 
Mombasa si karibu mzee
 
Muache ajifurahishe wakati Kagame ana-finalize soft loan for Kigali-Isaka section!
As I have stated Kenya does not need Rwanda there are larger markets than rwanda. Also Kenya is more efficient than Tanzania in logistics. Facts do not care about your feelings Bro!
 
Mombasa si karibu mzee
It seems your comprehension skills are wanting or you have a very tenuous command of english, I have clearly said Kenya does not need Rwanda but i have also stated that the efficiency of Mombasa as noted by the world bank makes it 60% cheaper to import via Kenya than Tanzania. You have a lot of bureaucracy and red tapes which are not good for business or the economy. Neither can the Tanzania government guarantee protection for private capital and goods. Which clearly makes Kenya the best choice, as you may have heard "Cheap is expensive". Rwanda may be near to Dar but they will soon regret because the inefficiency at the dar es salaam port will kill any savings they thought they would make.
 
Muache ajifurahishe wakati Kagame ana-finalize soft loan for Kigali-Isaka section!
This is called a non sequitur if you have any knowledge of logic,( I do not know if they teach that in your schools) you will understand that it is a logical fallacy. It is the last straw a drowning man clutches on when the premise of his/her arguments fail.
 
Sub-Saharan Africa is on its way to get her first bullet train courtesy of Tanzania and Rwanda
04/13/2019 | PULSE LIVE KENYA
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  • The Isaka-Kigali SGR project will link Isaka township in Tanzania with the Rwandan capital, Kigali.
  • The 571km-long cross-border standard gauge railway project will cost US$2.5 billion to complete.
  • The cost will be split between the two nations with Tanzania forking out US$1.3bn and Rwanda US$1.2bn.

Models of high speed trains are seen during the China High Speed Railway on Fast Track exhibition in Jakarta.
Sub-Saharan Africa is set to get its first bullet train courtesy of Tanzania and Rwanda.
The 571km-long cross-border railway project dubbed the Isaka-Kigali SGR project linking landlocked Rwanda with Tanzania's port at Dar es Salaam will cost US$2.5billion to complete.

In a joint announcement, Rwanda's Minister of Infrastructure Claver Gatete and Tanzania's transportation minister Isack Kamwelwe declared the cost was established by an initial study.

Rwanda's President Paul Kagame with his Tanzanian counterpart John Magufuli

The cost will be split between the two nations with Tanzania forking out US$1.3bn and Rwanda US$1.2bn.
The first 400km from Dar to Dodoma is currently underway and being built by Turkish/Portuguese consortium. The cross-border railway project will enable landlocked Rwanda to access the Dar es Salaam port in Tanzania. The line will also support the transfer of goods from Dar es Salaam port to Burundi and Congo.

The Isaka-Kigali SGR project

The Isaka-Kigali SGR project linking Isaka township in Tanzania with the Rwandan capital, Kigali was initially planned to be powered by diesel before it was switched to electric.

Once complete, it is expected to provide improved railway connectivity and reduce freight transportation costs in the East Africa region.

The two countries are considering various funding options for the project including from the African Development Bank (AfDB).
Tanzania and Rwanda launched the project in January 2018 and the two countries have agreed to expedite the process to implement the Isaka-Kigali Standard Gauge Railway (SGR) project.

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As I have stated Kenya does not need Rwanda there are larger markets than rwanda. Also Kenya is more efficient than Tanzania in logistics. Facts do not care about your feelings Bro!
If so, Then people would not be dying of hunger up North!
 
Kenya's SGR to become most expensive such project in the world

Author: Muyela Roberto
UPDATED: A DAY AGO

- The government spends on average KSh 800 million for every kilometer of SGR

- The cost is said to be two times more compared the international average

- Kenya is expected to borrow about KSh 845 billion from China for completion of the SGR

- Kenyans would pay close to KSh 1 trillion after the SGR loans clock maturity

- With public debt almost crossing KSh 5.4 trillion, there are concerns Kenya may not be able to settle the SGR loans

It has emerged Kenya's Standard Gauge Railway (SGR) has now been entered into the books of records as the most expensive such project in the world.

This comes after President Uhuru Kenyatta and Opposition chief Raila Odinga flew to China to secure KSh 368 billion loan to fund the ongoing construction of the SGR.

The new loan is expected to be injected in construction of the Naivasha-Kisumu SGR line and this would inflate the gross amount of loans Nairobi has borrowed from Beijing to about KSh 845 billion.

According to a report by Daily Nation on Wednesday, April 24, it costs the government KSh 800 million to construct each kilometer of the rail, and this makes the project the most expensive in the world.

Read more: https://www.tuko.co.ke/303943-kenyas-sgr-project-expensive-project-world.html#303943
 
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