Cost comparison SGR Kenya vs SGR Tanzania

Pia ICD ya Naivasha anajenga Mchina mbona jirani mtakua mmeolewa bila mahari😁😁😁
Ni Kama vile uniulize kwanini tunajengewa mahali pa kuegesha magari (bus stop) na kampuni uliopewa kandarasi ya kujenga barabara. Kwani ulitaka use kandarasi ya kivyake kujenga dry port itakayo tumika kuegesha mizigo ya SGR?
 
Like I told you then, what ABB will provide is the overhead line that is suspended above the train.. this overhead line is the one that directly powers the train.
Based on your feasibility report, the 220kv Transmission line is a complete separate thing, it will run alongside the route but will not directly power the line. It will stop at every sub-station to boost the power of that substation..
 

Kind of convenient to leave out what is actually being bought with taht money. $1.4b does not include alot of things. 460km rail only kenya was $2.3, $1.4b for Tz rail only. Kenya includes more stations and land reclamation from ocean. I think Tz railway is actually more expensive with stations that dont have waiting rooms, kwa vile hio pugu station sioni wasafiri waki kaa ndani. No space

Na mbona hii stesheni hazija jengwa katikati ya Pugu? Wapi barabara?
 

Unaongea kama station ya Kenya iko na lodging uko ndani!

A station is just a place where most passengers need to spend minimum time waiting. Time spent at station is actually wasted time and should be minimised as much as possible!
 
Then u fail to pay back the money! Last time I checked this was the news!


 
I have tried telling them that but it fell on deaf ears, One day they will come to see the light once reality kicks in, right now they are still in dream land.

Kenyas cost for 609km of track + Signaling + stations is actually just USD 2.6B An extra USD 1.2B was used to buy locomotives, rolling stock and build other facilities








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So the project cost for Mombasa-Nairobi SGR included additional cost for:


- $100 Million for Nairobi Dry Port
- $10 Million for expansion and modernisation the Railway Training Institute in Nairobi, this included train simulators for training of drivers.
- 56 Diesel Locomotives
- 1,620 freight wagons
- 40 Passenger coaches
+ CRBC would also provide full scholarships to some 300 Kenyan railway engineers to study masters and PHD in China



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Now ignoring the fact that Kenyas SGR is built on higher embankment which significantly increases the cost of the project, The TZ electric rail cost of $1.9B for 300km of rail track. does not include the locomotives nor the rolling stock and other additional facilities like dry ports.... The dry port is its own separate project with its own separate contracting, the locomotives and rolling stock are on their own separate budget. Yepi is not sponsoring anyone, TZ is the one paying for sending students to Korea and other places for advanced railway studies.... So even with a modest estimate, TZ is probably looking at at-least an extra $500m on top of the $1.9B. (And this $500m is a very modest estimate) But most of them don't know that right now, They are busy bashing Kenya for building an "expensive' railway when theirs is supposedly 'Cheaper'
 
Lets not forget that there is an Industrial park component in Nairobi-Naivasha part of the rail. Remember this Indurial park is Separate from the Naivasha Dry Port wich is currently under construction right now (I posted pics in the previous page)


Naivasha ICD




The indutrial park will tap uninterrupted cheap power straight from Geothermal power plant located a few km from the park and use it for manufacturing, the finished goods or raw materials will then be taken to the ICD awaiting to be transported by the SGR.




Geza Ulole Set your calendar, looks like Tuesday is the date for launching of Naivasha ICD, the president will also lauch the construction of the Industrial park on the same date.


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NAIROBI, Dec.10 (Xinhua) -- Kenya will begin construction Naivasha Industrial Park next week, setting the momentum for the development of the first special economic zone in Nakuru County, northwest of Nairobi, the government official said on Tuesday.

Peter Munya, Trade and Industrialization Cabinet Secretary said the project will go a long way in establishing industries that will improve the region's economy.

Munya said Kenyan President Uhuru Kenyatta will preside over the groundbreaking ceremony for the development of the Naivasha Industrial Park on Dec. 17.

He said the president will also witness a maiden trip for the freight train which will make its way from Mombasa through to Nairobi and Naivasha's Inland Container Depot (ICD).

Munya said the Naivasha's dry port will ease the movement of goods and boost trade between Kenya and South-Sudan.

"I am also pleased to announce to you the maiden trip for a double-stacked train from the Port of Mombasa to the ICD Naivasha," he said.

Munya said the project will lead to the uptake of raw materials locally available within the region.

"Further, the special economic zone is designed to provide an institutional framework, physical infrastructure and administrative services that will ensure a completely smooth operation to support the various economic activities within the Industrial park," he added.

He said with readily available human resources and expertise from the region, the project is set to provide a source of livelihood for the residents within the region and beyond.

Munya said the issuance of the space within the economic zones will be open for both local and international investors without discrimination to ensure healthy competitiveness.

He said prospective local and foreign investors had already expressed interest in establishing different industries at the planned industrial park.

"Various local firms and foreign investors have shown interest in putting up industries within the area, I welcome investors to set their base in readiness for the project which will create thousands of employment opportunities and boost massive industrial development in the country," he said.

He added that the companies within the zone will enjoy tax concessions as well as direct connection to cheaper geothermal power from the Olkaria plant. Enditem

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Can u show me where it is written $100mln Nairobi Inland port?
 
Tanzania and Rwanda in push to reshape East African logistics
By Morris Kiruga
Posted on Thursday, 12 December 2019 13:39

An eye to future deals? Presidents Kagame and Magufuli shake hands at the latter's inauguration in 2015, with the Kenyan and Ugandan presidents in the background. AP Photo/Khalfan Said

Rwanda and Tanzania individually signed two mega-infrastructure deals in the last week in moves that will undoubtedly reshape the East African region politically and economically. Kenya stands to lose most.

Tanzania signed an agreement to link its new railway line to Burundi and the DRC, while a similar deal with Rwanda is said to be in its final stages.

The transport ministers of the three countries signed the deal in Kigoma, Tanzania, on 3 December.

Three-way funding
The first phase of the joint deal will start in Kigoma and end in Gitega, the capital of Burundi,
240km away. It will then be extended into eastern DRC.

Each country will have to get funding for its own section, Tanzania’s transport minister, Isack Kamwelwe, said at the signing ceremony.
  • The first phase of Tanzania’s Standard Gauge Railway (SRG), covering 202km from Dar es Salaam to Morogoro, is almost complete.
  • The second phase will connect Morogoro to the administrative capital of Dodoma, even as the East African country also revamps its old metre-gauge railway to enhance connectivity.
  • When complete, the new railway line will cover 1,457km, connecting Dar and the Lake Victoria port city of Mwanza.
In May 2018, Rwanda and Tanzania agreed to redesign their joint railway plan, which will start at the Isaka dry port and end in Kigali, to use electric powered trains.

In late November, Tanzania’s President John Magufuli said that the two countries are in the final phases of negotiating a deal to build the railway line.
  • The Isaka-Kigali line will cost $2.5bn, with Tanzania paying $1.3bn and Rwanda $1.2bn. Rwanda will then incur additional costs to extend it to Rubavu and Bugesera, where it is constructing its largest international airport.
Kenya’s preeminence under threat
The deals give Tanzania an upper hand in East Africa, as its Central Corridor blueprint will make its commercial capital of Dar es Salaam the primary route to the sea for the region’s landlocked nations.

It also shows the far-reaching effects of the collapse of the ‘coalition of the willing’, a loose grouping of three East African countries – Kenya, Rwanda and Uganda – that had agreed in 2013 to construct mega-infrastructure deals together.
  • The coalition collapsed as diplomatic relations between Uganda and Rwanda worsened, and Tanzania’s new president, John Magufuli, worked to rebuild economic relations with the country’s neighbours.
Uganda is Kenya’s trade route to Rwanda and eastern DRC, and the frosty relations between the two, which saw border closures, affected trade in the region.

The biggest beneficiary has been Tanzania, which shares direct borders with Rwanda, Burundi, the DRC, and Uganda.

Uganda chose the Tanzania route to the sea, abandoning the plan to build an oil pipeline jointly with Kenya. It cited, among other reasons, the costs of land compensation in Kenya.

Rwanda also pulled out of the railway line plan because, as its then finance minister, Claver Gatete (now minister of infrastructure), said: “The Kenyan route would be expensive and time consuming.”

Rwanda has also inaugurated an $80m inland port, built by Emirati DP World, 20km from the capital, Kigali.

Meanwhile, Rwanda announced that it had signed a deal with Qatar Airways,which will see the Gulf airline take up 60% of the redesigned Bugesera International Airport project.
  • It is still unclear what will happen to the preceding deal with Mota-Engil of Portugal, which began works on the airport two years ago with a concession to run it for 25 years – and an option to extend by another 15 years.
Before the redesign, the project cost was $800m and a capacity of 4.5 million passengers, with the first phase due to be complete by early 2020.
  • Mota-Engil had injected $418m into the first phase by March, when media reports indicated the company could be pulling out due to contractual issues.
  • Mota-Engil’s likely pullout will make it the second company to withdraw from the project, after a Chinese state construction firm in 2013.
In addition promising the greenest airport on the continent, Rwanda now plans for Bugesera to be one of the largest airports in the region.

In the redesign the first phase, valued at $1.3bn, will accommodate seven million passengers, while the second phase, which will start by 2032, will increase the capacity to 14 million, the Rwanda Development Board said in a series of tweets on 9 December.


As East Africa begins a new decade, Kenya’s dwindling position as East Africa’s trade hub will face even more competition from Tanzania and Rwanda.

Bottom line:
While Tanzania is working to make its corridor the natural route to the landlocked countries, Rwanda has been working to centre itself as a conference and events hub. The new deals bring them closer to this future, even as they iron out their financing models.

 
Uganda is the country that today shapes logistics in East Africa and it is the only country that can reshape logistics in EA and possibly the whole East and Central Africa

It's geographical location dictates that! It's the most underutilized underexplored asset that Uganda holds
 
Umeongea nn? Gibberish ama? Mbona mchina asiipe Uganda loan?
 
Umeongea nn? Gibberish ama? Mbona mchina asiipe Uganda loan?
Kwani ni kazi ya mchina kusaidia Uganda?

and who told you that Uganda cannot exploit it's logistics potential without the SGR?

Your stupidity is showing....but your momma already warned me about it last night.
 
Kwani ni kazi ya mchina kusaidia Uganda?

and who told you that Uganda cannot exploit it's logistics potential without the SGR?

Your stupidity is showing....but your momma already warned me about it last night.
Yes sir they r have gone to a revamp of NGR. As a result SGR Kenya terminated in Naivasha while SGR Tanzania has bagged in Burundi, DRC n Rwanda!
 
Yes sir they r have gone to a revamp of NGR. As a result SGR Kenya terminated in Naivasha while SGR Tanzania has bagged in Burundi, DRC n Rwanda!
My point is about the logistics potential of Uganda due to its geographical location and not SGR.

I will stick to that point but if you wanna derail that point then do so by yourself because I am busy.....doing your mom!!
 
TRC CEO Masanja Kadogisa, "Mwanza-Isaka to launch soon". If Uganda shapes logistics in EA, then be it as this route will bag 4 countries in total with South Sudan at the far end. Though SGR Tanzania started construction 4 years after SGR Kenya started construction n a year Kenya launched operation i.e. April 2017, the third phase is coming faster than I anticipated and before Kenya launches their 3rd phase!




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July 26, 2019
What Is Happening With The Isaka-Kigali Railway?

Chronicles Team
July 26, 2019


President John Pombe Magufuli receives President Kagame in Dar es Salaam last May

Rwanda this week put the final seal on the bilateral agreement with Tanzania that details a mechanism for the construction of the 532Km Standard Gauge Railway Project – which will be Rwanda’s first railway line.

On July 18, the framework agreement was published in the national gazette with a signature of President Paul Kagame, which essentially means Rwanda is ready to implement everything on paper.

The agreement was signed in Kigali on March 9 last year between Rwanda’s state minister in charge of Transport Jean de Dieu Uwihanganye and Tanzania’s minister of works, transport and communication Prof Makame Mbarawe.

Uwihanganye was last week dropped from cabinet, and appointed envoy to Singapore. A replacement has yet to be made, as the docket’s responsibilities fall back to the full Minister of Infrastructure, Claver Gatete.

With the publication of the agreement, we have an idea of what tools are in place to ensure the project succeeds – as countries usually drag feet on such large projects.

The Isaka-Kigali SGR has been in talk dating back to the early 2000, but little progress was made until the election of current Tanzanian President Dr John Pombe Magufuli in October 2015.

However, Rwanda was also planning another SRG route; the 2,935km Standard Gauge Railway (SGR) line from Mombasa port (Kenya) to Kigali via Kampala, Uganda.

But then, in mid 2017, signs began emerging of brewing trouble between Kigali and Kampala. Rwanda abandoned this route, and has focussed all its energy on Tanzania. Its from here that the March 2018 deal was hammered.

READ: Confirmed: Kampala-Kigali Railway Line Put Off Until Further Notice

The joint SGR project will cost $3.6 billion, of which of $2.3 billion for Tanzania’s section of 394 Km and $1.3 billion for the Rwandan section of 138 Km.

On the Tanzania side, construction on the part from Isaka-Keza inside Tanzania, has not started despite claims early last year that construction would start in December 2018.

While speaking in the Lower Chamber of Deputies in this past May, State Minister Uwihanganye informed the lawmakers of the progress of the construction.

He said works on the Dar Es Salaam-Morogoro (205 Km) was estimated at 45.9%; and Morogoro-Makutupora (336 Km) was at 7.12% and that the latest stage was search for money for the section Makutupora-Isaka (427 Km).

Uwihanganye was in Parliament to deliver a draft law approving the ratification of the SGR agreement.

Now, the agreement has been ratified in Rwanda with publication in the national gazette. No indication yet if Tanzania has.
What does the agreement say? First, it sets up a so called ‘Joint Technical Monitoring Committee’ (JTMC), which includes 5 technocrats from each of the governments.



Tanzania will build its SGR to Isaka, and the Rwanda will come onboard to push the line to its border, and then finance it alone to Kigali and other towns in Rwanda. At least that is the plan.

The other is step is that Rwandan and Tanzanian line-ministers are required to meet twice a year to “review progress” on a range of aspects; funding, policy and regulations.

The permament secretaries of the line-ministries, who are the accounting officers, are required to meet one every three months to look at what the JTMC technocrats have done because the experts are supposed to meet regularly.

The agreement also highlights how funding for the project will be got, and what each government will do. However, the agreement gives three ways of financing, which are yet to be adopted.

Each country is supposed to find funding for the portion of the SGR on its territory, meaning Rwanda has to look for the money for the section inside its borders.

However, the agreement also leaves open the possibility to look for financing jointly as Tanzania and Rwanda.

In case of disagreements arising between the two on any issue, Kigali and Dar es Salaam agreed that disputes will be “amicably” resolved “through negotiations”.

But in case they cant agree, the only other instance the agrieved party can go to is the East African Court of Justice (EACJ), based in Arusha, Tanzania.

It is unclear how many meetings the two sides have have been held by officials from either side since January this year. What is clear now, is that with Rwanda ratifying the agreement, it could set in motion increased activity.

Less than 30% of Rwandan imports now go through Mombasa in Kenya, according data available as of October last year, suggesting that after March 2019 when the Rwanda-Uganda stand-off began, the imports through Tanzania may have gone up further.

With Uganda currently considered a hostile neighbour, Kigali will do everything to wean itself from depending on the Kampala route.

Last week, the appointment Maj. Gen. Charles Karamba, a former Air Force Chief of Staff, as envoy to Tanzania, is latest clear sign that Tanzania is a key need for Rwanda.
READ: Kagame’s New Ambassadors Speak To Impending Gov’t Reshuffle

Maj Gen Karamba’s brief will surely indeed be fast-tracking the Isaka-Kigali Standard Gauge Railway Project.

Importers say they pay on average $4,990, to import a 20ft container while the sub-Saharan average is $2,504, which significantly affects Rwanda’s competitiveness in terms of cross-border trade. It makes commodities very expensive in Rwanda.

When completed, the Isaka-Kigali railway line is expected to improve trade between the two countries by making it easier and more cost effective for people and cargo to move across the common border.

From the capital Kigali, work on Rwanda’s SGR section will continue without stopping to Bugesera International Airport, currently under construction, about 30km away from Kigali.

 
Meanwhile, The first tenant at Naivasha Industrial park

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Danish Brewing Company E.A Limited, a subsidiary of Bounty Global Management DWC LLC is set to be the first anchor tenant at the Naivasha Industrial Park.

The beer maker has set aside $45 million (Sh4.59 billion) to set up its operations in the country.

More than 100 local and international investors have so far expressed interest in setting up shop at the planned industrial park.

The brewer of Tuborg, Carlsberg, Holsten, and Kronenbourg beers, as well as Somersby Cider plans to set up a plant with a production capacity of 12-15 million cases of beer annually.

The firm will also employ 350 Kenyans and produce beverages using sorghum sourced locally from their recently launched Farmers Outreach Programme, expecting to contract 17,000 farmers.

Trade CS Peter Munya on Tuesday said support given by government has created an enabling environment in turn attracting a number of local and international private investors.

"As our Government believes in public-private partnership we are working hand-in-hand to realise the goals of the Manufacturing pillar of the Big 4 Agenda," he said.

Among these is the provision of a direct connection to cheaper geothermal power from the Olkaria plant as well as special tax incentives in line with provisions of the Fiscal Incentives Act, 2015.

Foreign investors from India, Europe, United States of America (USA), the Netherlands, China, Sri Lanka and Thailand are said to be interested in setting up base within the economic zone.

The Government, in July, designated 9,000 acres of land in Naivasha, Mombasa and Machakos as Special Economic Zones (SEZs), aimed at boosting the manufacturing pillar under the Big Four Agenda.



The Naivasha Industrial Park under the Special Economic Zones Authority (SEZA) will see the development of the 1,000 acre Special Economic Zone (SEZ) of which 800 acres will have warehousing for various manufacturers, logistics parks and support services to provide a world class manufacturing hub in the region.

"The Government continues to support investment opportunities in the Industrial Park and encourages private investors to make their enquiries about tenancy opportunities through SEZA," Munya said.

Under the 2019/20 budget, the government allocated a total of Sh1.1 billion to go towards the development of textile and leather industrial parks, the Naivasha Industrial Park and the Cotton Development subsidy.

Construction works at the Sh6.9 billion industrial park began early last month after President Uhuru Kenyatta opened the Mai-Mahiu SGR Terminus.

Land for the industrial park is situated where the SGR and the Inland Container Depot will meet.

 
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