Geza Ulole
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Actually Dar-Morogoro-Dodoma-Makutupora equivalency yake (in distance) ni Mombasa-Nairobi -Naivasha!
Actually Dar-Morogoro-Dodoma-Makutupora equivalency yake (in distance) ni Mombasa-Nairobi -Naivasha!Nimejaribu kusoma hii debate yenu kuna mahali naona mnamiss if I'm not mistaken, kwa nini mnacompare vipande viwili vyenye urefu tofauti Dar-Moro na Nairobi-Mombasa ili mpambano uwe fair weka Dar- Makutupora vs Nairobi - Mombasa tuone kazi 😀.
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Surrounding inakaa takataka ,jehanamTRC Headquarters in Dodoma
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upo bitter and salty!Surrounding inakaa takataka ,jehanam
Nani ako na pics za Ngong or rongai station surrounding?
Ukirudi hadi pale huu mjadala ulianza utagundua ni Geza Ulole ndo alianza kwa kudai eti Dar-Moro iko na madaraja mengi kuliko Mombasa-Nairobi.... So kutoka mwanzo mjadala ulikua ni huo.Nimejaribu kusoma hii debate yenu kuna mahali naona mnamiss if I'm not mistaken, kwa nini mnacompare vipande viwili vyenye urefu tofauti Dar-Moro na Nairobi-Mombasa ili mpambano uwe fair weka Dar- Makutupora vs Nairobi - Mombasa tuone kazi 😀.
There are 27 bridges of different sizes, totalling 17.3km and accounting for 14.4 per cent of the total project length.
Six per cent of the line consists of three tunnels totalling 7.147 km.
On Tuesday last week, NLC defended itself against accusations it is delaying land compensation.
Tache said the commission was paid Sh17.2 billion by Kenya Railways, of which Sh3.8 billion is yet to be paid out.
She admitted the delay was causing the affected families pain but maintained they wouldn’t want to commit the same mistakes that led to delayed payments.
Nairobi-Naivasha SGR complete 'by year end'
Compensation process ongoing, some issues in court. NLC scrutinising documents.www.the-star.co.ke
Still Mombasa-Nairobi-Naivasha SGR is way expensive 3.6 + 1.5 US $ bln compared to 1.2 + 1.9 US $ bln electrical SGR for Dar-Moro-Dom-Makutupora!Ukirudi hadi pale huu mjadala ulianza utagundua ni Geza Ulole ndo alianza kwa kudai eti Dar-Moro iko na madaraja mengi kuliko Mombasa-Nairobi.... So kutoka mwanzo mjadala ulikua ni huo.
Lakini hata ukachanganya hadi makutopora bado haifikii ya Mombasa-Nairobi
Sasa kama tuko na madaraja mara nne kushinda kwenu na matuta ya urefu wa mara tatu kushinda yenu, what do you expect?Still Mombasa-Nairobi-Naivasha SGR is way expensive 3.6 + 1.5 US $ bln compared to 1.2 + 1.9 US $ bln electrical SGR for Dar-Moro-Dom-Makutupora!
Still u can`t justify the cost! This same Chinese companies have built similar projects around the world and the cost is way lower! Take example JPM bridge in Mwanza, a 6 lanes 3.2 km bridge over a lake at $299 mln! U can`t take that as a valid reason for having a difference $5.1-3.1 bln ( over 2 US$ bln) and still not electric SGR! That cost is too much! Another thing is none of ur bridges over waterbodies are over 200 m !Sasa kama tuko na madaraja mara nne kushinda kwenu na matuta ya urefu wa mara tatu kushinda yenu, what do you expect?
Hii hapa screenshot kutoka SGR Uganda report to parliament ikieleza cost ya SGR Uganda
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35% ya garama ya SGR Uganda ilikua inaenda kwa ujenzi wa Madaraja, na 25% ni earth works ambayo ni ujenzi wa matuta(35% +25% = 60%).... sasa kumbuka Kenya ina madajara yenye urefu zaidi kuliko Uganda.
Kwa mfano,kwenye phase II Nairobi-Naivasha SGR , Zaidi ya nusu billion usd (over $500 million) imepotea kwenye ujenzi na fidia kwa KWS kwa daraja/viaduct la 6,000m juu ya Nairobi National Park. Hio ni 30% ya garama yote ya phase II imepotea kwenye 6km ya route length.
BTW Morogoro-Dodoma-Makutupora will have a number of bridges too!Ukirudi hadi pale huu mjadala ulianza utagundua ni Geza Ulole ndo alianza kwa kudai eti Dar-Moro iko na madaraja mengi kuliko Mombasa-Nairobi.... So kutoka mwanzo mjadala ulikua ni huo.
Lakini hata ukachanganya hadi makutopora bado haifikii ya Mombasa-Nairobi.
Na pia mimi sijagusa Nairobi-Naivasha, manake Dar-Makutopora VS Mombasa-Naivasha ndo ziko karibu kutoshana kiurefu. Ikiwa Dar-Moro-Makutopora ni 202km + 348km = 550km VS Mombasa-Nairobi-Naivasha = 472km + 120km = 592km.
Lakini hata tukiacha hayo, Nairobi-Naivasha tu pekee 120km, ina madaraja ya urefu mkubwa kuliko ukichanganya madaraja yote kutoka Dar hadi Makutopora 550km.
Design and Engineering Services for hydrological studies, drainage plan and hydraulic studies for all permanent and temporary structures for Morogoro-Dodoma-Makutupora Railway Project section Km:201+000 – 535+000 (Approximate length of the section is 334 km).
Morogoro-Dodoma-Makutupora Railway Project section includes approximately 43 bridges, 531 culverts, 600 km drainage channel. Temelsu shall make the necessary on-site inspections, collect data and prepare Design Criteria Report, Hydrological Report, Flood Risk Assessment and Simulation Reports, Hydraulic Report for Structures and all related drawings.