Cost comparison SGR Kenya vs SGR Tanzania

[Kanya]

Hio rescue crane sijaiona huku kwetu, but kama iko, most likely itakua ni ya operator manake yeye ndo ako responsible for maintenance and repair ya track...
Simulator najua ni yetu manake part of the deal na China ilikua ni kwamba watatumia $100m ku transform Railway Training Institute ya Kenya Railways kukua fully fledge teaching center of excellence ambayo kila kitu cha railway engineering kitakua kinafundishwa hapo, itakua hakuna haja ya kutuma mtu yoyote nje ya nchi kusomea railway engineering ..

Crane iko(wanaitaa TELESCOPIC BOOM RECOVERY CRANE) and kwa krc's website wanasema they've TAKEN DELIVERY of lakini haina rangi za Kenya railway hence my doubts. I too think iya wa china..Thanks for the answer.

 

[Mkikuyu- Akili timamu]

And in those 10 years include the first 5 years - training the Kenyans everything from bottom-up. The first year it was 80% Kenyan workforce now we at 95% Kenyan workforce . Ripoti ya KRA inalenga 98% workforce by next year 2020, alafu wachina wakiisha, kutakua na observation period kupima vile wakenya wanamanage SGR, contract iliisha, the same Chinese but Kenyan run company itabaki vilevile lakini itageuka na kua ya kikenya.... Hapo tunatarajia watakua wamekua real experts wa kila kitu au sivyo management ya SGR itapewa kampuni ya kifaransa kama vile ilikua imepangwa pale mwanzo .

Alafu Kenyan locomotives are not diesel trains, They are diesel-electric trains, That means engine ni generator ya diesel inayo generate umeme alafu umeme ndo unatumika ku drive the axles and the rest of the train ... Yani ukiondoa hio generator na u connect na overhead line ya stima treni itasonga bila shida! So ukiwa we ni dereva wa treni hakuna tofauti ya kama unapeleka electric train au diesel-electric, ndio maana hata hio simulator iko modelled from an electric train simulator kwasababu ziko na the same dashboard and controlles.

Alafu hapo Kwa thermite wielding, Yepi wanatumia mashini spesheli ya kufanya hio kazi, kumaanisha alietumia akili ni mwenye alitengeneza mashini, mtumizi wa mashini hahitaji ujuzi wowote hata awe na IQ ya below average, Bora ajue kuwasha na kuzima mashini na kulenganisha chuma mbili in a straight line, the rest ni mashini ndo itafanya! Dereva wa catapiller ya kubeba mchanga anahitaji ujuzi zaidi kuliko huyo wa ku operate hio mashini ya kuunganisha chuma!

1) It makes no sense for china to run the rail for 10 yrs. There is nothing complicated unless ofcourse there is fear of kenyans stealing from the company

2) Welded Rail requires far much more training and experience to repair. That is why you use compicated machines to keep the tension, alingment and gradient. Welding a perfect joint is a skill..whereas bolting fishplates is a low level skill
3) Tanzania will use their own manpower from day 1. Infact they are already in training and repairs on the old rail using Joint welding for their practise is already going on

 

[asvptx]

1) It makes no sense for china to run the rail for 10 yrs. There is nothing complicated unless ofcourse there is fear of kenyans stealing from the company

2) Welded Rail requires far much more training and experience to repair. That is why you use compicated machines to keep the tension, alingment and gradient. Welding a perfect joint is a skill..whereas bolting fishplates is a low level skill
3) Tanzania will use their own manpower from day 1. Infact they are already in training and repairs on the old rail using Joint welding for their practise is already going on

What do you mean it makes no sense for the Chinese to run the rail for 10years? How then will they recoup the amount they have invested? This rail project is a BOT undertaking.

 

[Mkikuyu- Akili timamu]

What do you mean it makes no sense for the Chinese to run the rail for 10years? How then will they recoup the amount they have invested? This rail project is a BOT undertaking.

operating a Railway is not rocket science

 

[Kafrican]

1) It makes no sense for china to run the rail for 10 yrs. There is nothing complicated unless ofcourse there is fear of kenyans stealing from the company

2) Welded Rail requires far much more training and experience to repair. That is why you use compicated machines to keep the tension, alingment and gradient. Welding a perfect joint is a skill..whereas bolting fishplates is a low level skill
3) Tanzania will use their own manpower from day 1. Infact they are already in training and repairs on the old rail using Joint welding for their practise is already going on

Bolting fishplatesrequires the same alighnment , gradient as when you doing continuous rail... There is nothing complicated about thermite wielding especially when you are using a machine that automatically controls the temperature, tension, etc

This is Thermite wielding done manually in Sweden, Watch and learn and then you can tell me if you think these guys require a high level of skill .



Animation of what happens inside

 

[Kafrican]

Crane iko(wanaitaa TELESCOPIC BOOM RECOVERY CRANE) and kwa krc's website wanasema they've TAKEN DELIVERY of lakini haina rangi za Kenya railway hence my doubts. I too think iya wa china..Thanks for the answer.

The first imported crane belongs to the Operator as per this article...

During rescue activity, the Rescue Crane works in conjunction with three rescue coaches, which provide amenities for staff as well as housing for the tools used during rescue. In order to get to the site, the Crane is hauled by a towing locomotive moving at speeds of up to 120km/h. During the operation, the crane can self-propel up to a speed of 8km/h while on the worksite.

China Road and Bridge Corporation (CRBC); the EPC contractor for the Mombasa Nairobi Standard Gauge Railway line is required to supply two Recovery Cranes as per their contractual obligations. The Crane will be subjected to dynamic and static tests as part of the inspection and acceptance process. The second crane is expected to arrive in December,

Kenya Railways acquires rescue equipment for SGR Operations

Kenya Railways has acquired a Telescopic Boom Recovery Crane to be used for recovery of failed or derailed rail vehicles on the live Standard Gauge Railway line following any accidents; […]

kenyanwallstreet.com

But another crane + other reovery wagons that house generator and other recovery tolls will belong to KRC,

 

[asvptx]

operating a Railway is not rocket science

You're not getting the point.

You need to familiarize yourself with BOT

 

[Kifaru_07]

operating a Railway is not rocket science

Its not like pushing a handcart either, where you can pick a pedestrian and tell him drive this train with 1000 lives on board.
If you think its not hard then you have little knowledge of train operations. Do you know why wagon couplings are loosely spaced and dont give a tight hold between them? How far back does a 1km long train need to start applying brakes to stop?

 

[EZZ CHEZZ]

 

[EZZ CHEZZ]

This should serve as a lesson to our local East African contractors when executing public projects. In the modern world, it does'nt mean much if you do public things silently as an institution.

The public needs to know what's going on and see how to embrace it. A lot of stakeholders out there could benefit a lot. Ranging from, vendors, scholars, potential workers, business people, investors, etc

 

[EZZ CHEZZ]

 

[Bantugbro]

The electric trains will be supplied by Siemens no doubt....take a look at the Tender and then at the bottom image...

 

[Janerose mzalendo]

The electric trains will be supplied by Siemens no doubt....take a look at the Tender and then at the bottom image...
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Mkaishia kutelekeza..

 

[Geza Ulole]

 

[Kafrican]

operating a Railway is not rocket science

Actually to be a train driver you must have an advaned diploma or a dregree in engineering fields like electrical or mechanical... If a train gets stuck in the middle of nowhere, it all falls back on the driver to diagnose and fix the issue quickly

 

[Kafrican]

Baada ya Assistance Drivers wa kwanza 15 ku graduate juzi na kua Senior drivers ambao wanapeleka sgr bila usaidizi, mwezi uliopita, Wanafunzi wapia wa assistand drivers wameanza mafunzo.

 

[Zigi Rizla]

Hapa kazi tu..... Mwasmwat Ichoboy Geza ulole eliakeem

 

[Kafrican]

Baada ya majumba kubomolewa, Final contruction ng'ong area

 

[Kafrican]

Hapa kazi tu..... Mwasmwat Ichoboy Geza ulole eliakeem

 

[Zigi Rizla]

Asante. Sijui mbona znatokea ivo