Ngokongosha
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Wanaweza wasitake kupitia ziwani, ile ya isaka - Kigali ni rahisi kwao kuunganisha kupitia mkoa wa kagera.
Cost comparison SGR Kenya vs SGR Tanzania
Cost comparison SGR Kenya vs SGR Tanzania
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Bantugbro
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Hapana ile ni ndefu sana km 700 hawawezi kuzimudu, hio ni zaidi ya mara 3 ya distance ya Malabo to Kampala ambayo ndio inawasumbua kupata finance miaka yote hii.
Kwasasa hawana ujanja wa SGR bila kupita ziwani Port Bell to Mwanza, mpaka siku watakapopata hela ya mafuta ndio wajikamue kujenga either through Isaka au Malabo.
Kwasasa hawana ujanja wa SGR bila kupita ziwani Port Bell to Mwanza, mpaka siku watakapopata hela ya mafuta ndio wajikamue kujenga either through Isaka au Malabo.
Tz_one
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Hii ya mizigo wa majini...ni nzuri ...inabidi tuwe na wagon ferry zaidi ya 6U/C wakati reli inajengwa ili kuwa more efficent..we need to be aggressive on this if we really want it ..6vessels kama moja inaweza kubeba wagon tracks hata 30 na yenye uwezo wa kukata maji ndani ya usiku (8hrs) ..asubuhi mzigo uko portbell ...Mwanza- Isaka rail will likely take to 2024 reli kuisha and by tht time we need the vessels ready ..so its a heavy investment hapo..most likely rail itacost 1bn usd ..ukiweka na electrification ...cost and all ..vessels may cost 200mil usd .. roughly 30- 40mil usd each
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Slipway ipo tayari all we need is kutangaza tenda walau tuwe na vessles mbili in next 3years za kuanzia ...na ku expand Roro terminal ya mwanza ... Ku accomodate 3 vessels at a time
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Geza Ulole
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Geza Ulole
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Umesomea Jiografia wapi wewe? Yaani JPM aache kuifikisha reli Mwanza itakapoweza kuungana na Kampala kwa ziwa Victoria meli zikiwepo zipo tayari na kuiharakisha SGR ifike Kigali na Bijumbura kutokea Isaka ajenge mpya kupitia Kagera! Ubinafsi kama huu wako hauzingatia nia njema ya kukamata masoko ya nchi landlocked. wewe ni kama wale wanaong'ang'ania SGR ipite Kigoma ndo iingie Burundi badala ya kujenga Isaka Keza na kuua ndege wawili kwa jiwe moja kwanza! na ku-secure nchi za Rwanda na Burundi kutuia central corridor na kutoa nafasi ya kufika DRC mapema na hata kama nchi za Rwanda na Burundi zitakataa still kujenga Isaka-Kigoma na kutumia ferries haitakuwa kupoteza!
You probably better read this map carefully! Priority for now is Isaka Mwanza and Isaka-Keza before anything else!
MY TAKE
Hii maneno ya watu wa Kigoma kubisha ati lazma SGR ipite Kigoma ni kukosa uelewa ni kama watu wa reli ya Tanga Moshi waanze kubisha ati kwamba SGR ilipaswa kupita kwanza Moshi maana kama reli Tanzania ya kwanza kujengwa ilikuwa Tanga-Moshi!
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Hebu nieleze hii gjiografia..... Hii nchi ya Rwanda haipakani na Kenya, lakini Kenya inafanya biashara nyingi za ndani kwa ndani na Rwanda kuliko Tanzania ambayo inapakana na Rwanda! You ain't securing sh!t
Geza Ulole
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R u trying to tell me with a blockade btn Rwanda and Uganda in 2019 the figures will be the same? Go n tell ur mama Kunyaland governement has a way of deceiving fools!
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Why do Tanzanians have the mentality that the only way to beat Kenya is if something bad happens, e.g Election violence, ethnic civil war, Alshabaab, corruption..etc Why can't a Tanzanian for once just say something like "We will overtake Kenya because we have superior infrastructure, we are more hardworking, we are smarter and even under the best economic conditions in Kenya, Tanzania will still beat Kenya.... "
Siku zote mnabaki mkisubiri maembe chini ya mnazi ... i.e mnangojea janga litokee Kenya ndo ianguke alaffu ndo mtaipiku... mweh!!!
And to answer your question, R u telling me that you are not aware that there is an alternative route to Rwanda through northern Tanzania via the Taveta/Holili border???
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Northern Tanzania-bound cargo through Mombasa port accounted for 281 Twenty-foot Equivalent Units (TEUs) or 5.4 per cent to emerge the second transit destination in the week ended September 20.
As usual Uganda retained its leading position, accounting for 4,228 TEUs or 81.2 per cent of the total transit bound traffic which stood at 5,208 TEUs.
Other transit destinations included South Sudan which accounted for 279 TEUs, followed by the Democratic Republic of Congo with 205 TEUs and Rwanda with 167 TEUs.
Somalia and Burundi registered 29 TEUs and 11 TEUs respectively.
Northern Tanzania rises to 2nd transit cargo destination - TradeMark East Africa
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Geza Ulole
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and still Rwanda chose Dar SGR to Kenya SGR! 90% of all Rwandan cargo go through central corridor n ends up to Dar and Tanga ports! don't argue stupidly!
Editorial: Tanzania shows how to build bridges, not break them
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Tanzania starts repairs on road linking to Rwanda
By
James Karuhanga
Published : March 05, 2020 | Updated : March 05, 2020
Cargo trucks at Rusumo One stop border post between Rwanda and Tanzania. The collapse of a bridge on the Morogoro-Dodoma highway due to heavy rains on Monday disrupted transport which has affected inland Tanzanian cargo and movement of goods and people to and from Rwanda. However, Eng Isack Kamwelwe, Tanzania’s Minister of Works, Transport and Communication said on Tuesday that construction works to repair the highway are underway to normalise movement of goods and people from Rwanda to Tanzania. / Sam Ngendahimana.
The Tanzanian Ministry of Works, Transport and Communication is repairing a section of the Morogoro-Dodoma highway where a bridge collapsed due to heavy rains on Monday.
The road links Rwanda to Dar es Salaam post, where about 90 per cent of goods destined for Rwanda come through.
On Tuesday, heavy equipment was deployed at the site in an effort to quickly restore normal transport operations
The hitch has disrupted transport on the highway, largely affecting inland Tanzanian cargo and movement of goods and people to and from Rwanda and beyond.
The alternative route of Iringa is 304km longer.
The development came as unusually heavy rains continue to pound the region, destroying costly infrastructure as well as demolished homes and farmlands.
Speaking at the site, Eng Isack Kamwelwe, Tanzania’s Minister of Works, Transport and Communication, noted that they will install two large culverts, each three meters in diameter, so that a lot of water can go underneath without wrecking the bridge anymore.
Construction works have started on the Morogoro-Dodoma highway bridge which collapsed due to heavy rains on Monday. Net photo.
When the heavy rains subside, Kamwelwe noted, “we also intend to build a bigger bridge” so as to further enhance transport on the major highway.
The road is the main route used for goods coming to Rwanda from Tanzania’s Dar es Salaam port.
The Rwandan High Commission in Tanzania confirmed to The New Times that it has been in touch with the Ministry of Works there on several occasions and noted that the Government there is “very committed to quickly” restoring the key transport link.
Fred Seka, the president of the Federation of East Africa Freight Forwarders, told The New Times that delays to repair the road would cause business losses.
Yusuf Rutayisire, a Rwandan heavy truck driver, was among the first people who got to the broken bridge on Monday and shared a short video as the bridge continued to be damaged by water.
On that afternoon, Rutayisire was enroute to Dar to collect a consignment of cement with his 32 tonne truck.
He told The New Times that he was optimistic construction works will end soon and he will be able to carry on with his trip to Dar.
Rutayisire said: “This is the third day I have been stranded here. It crumbled when I was about 10 meters away, on my arrival, from Gairo. On Wednesday, several high-level government officials, including the Minister of Works and Transport, arrived on the scene to assess the situation.
“Right now, a lot of work is being done. They are pouring in rocks and soil after setting up two big culverts. I don’t think everything will end today (Wednesday) but looking at the effort being put in and how hard they worked on Tuesday, I see speed and it is promising.”
Rutayisire could not readily tell how many vehicles were stranded on the other side but he estimated that there were more than 200 vehicles, including passenger service vehicles, on his side.
According to Seka, the impact could be felt by those who import goods through Dar port and those transiting goods through Rwanda, especially the DR Congo business community.
According to the Rwanda Revenue Authority (RRA), customs officials handle 280 cargo trucks on the Central Corridor every day.
Rain-triggered disasters, including flash floods and landslides, have affected many people across east Africa in recent weeks.
In Rwanda, heavy rains on Sunday and Monday killed at least five people and injured many others while infrastructure was also damaged.
Last week, the Rwanda Meteorology Agency made “above normal” rainfall predictions for the next three months. Since last September, heavy rains have claimed dozens of lives, devastated property and jeopardised food security with out-of-chain food prices until now.
Experts have said that the current rains have been enhanced by a phenomenon called the Indian Ocean Dipole (IOD).
The phenomenon, also known as the Indian Niño, is an irregular oscillation of sea surface temperatures in which the western Indian Ocean becomes alternately warmer (positive phase) and then colder (negative phase) than the eastern part of the ocean.
It is reported that, when positive, IOD can cause a rise in water temperatures in the Indian Ocean of up to 2C. This leads to higher evaporation rates off the east African coastline and this water then falls inland.
jkaruhanga@newtimesrwanda.com
Tanzania starts repairs on road linking to Rwanda
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By
James Karuhanga
Published : March 05, 2020 | Updated : March 05, 2020
Cargo trucks at Rusumo One stop border post between Rwanda and Tanzania. The collapse of a bridge on the Morogoro-Dodoma highway due to heavy rains on Monday disrupted transport which has affected inland Tanzanian cargo and movement of goods and people to and from Rwanda. However, Eng Isack Kamwelwe, Tanzania’s Minister of Works, Transport and Communication said on Tuesday that construction works to repair the highway are underway to normalise movement of goods and people from Rwanda to Tanzania. / Sam Ngendahimana.
The Tanzanian Ministry of Works, Transport and Communication is repairing a section of the Morogoro-Dodoma highway where a bridge collapsed due to heavy rains on Monday.
The road links Rwanda to Dar es Salaam post, where about 90 per cent of goods destined for Rwanda come through.
On Tuesday, heavy equipment was deployed at the site in an effort to quickly restore normal transport operations
The hitch has disrupted transport on the highway, largely affecting inland Tanzanian cargo and movement of goods and people to and from Rwanda and beyond.
The alternative route of Iringa is 304km longer.
The development came as unusually heavy rains continue to pound the region, destroying costly infrastructure as well as demolished homes and farmlands.
Speaking at the site, Eng Isack Kamwelwe, Tanzania’s Minister of Works, Transport and Communication, noted that they will install two large culverts, each three meters in diameter, so that a lot of water can go underneath without wrecking the bridge anymore.
Construction works have started on the Morogoro-Dodoma highway bridge which collapsed due to heavy rains on Monday. Net photo.
When the heavy rains subside, Kamwelwe noted, “we also intend to build a bigger bridge” so as to further enhance transport on the major highway.
The road is the main route used for goods coming to Rwanda from Tanzania’s Dar es Salaam port.
The Rwandan High Commission in Tanzania confirmed to The New Times that it has been in touch with the Ministry of Works there on several occasions and noted that the Government there is “very committed to quickly” restoring the key transport link.
Fred Seka, the president of the Federation of East Africa Freight Forwarders, told The New Times that delays to repair the road would cause business losses.
Yusuf Rutayisire, a Rwandan heavy truck driver, was among the first people who got to the broken bridge on Monday and shared a short video as the bridge continued to be damaged by water.
On that afternoon, Rutayisire was enroute to Dar to collect a consignment of cement with his 32 tonne truck.
He told The New Times that he was optimistic construction works will end soon and he will be able to carry on with his trip to Dar.
Rutayisire said: “This is the third day I have been stranded here. It crumbled when I was about 10 meters away, on my arrival, from Gairo. On Wednesday, several high-level government officials, including the Minister of Works and Transport, arrived on the scene to assess the situation.
“Right now, a lot of work is being done. They are pouring in rocks and soil after setting up two big culverts. I don’t think everything will end today (Wednesday) but looking at the effort being put in and how hard they worked on Tuesday, I see speed and it is promising.”
Rutayisire could not readily tell how many vehicles were stranded on the other side but he estimated that there were more than 200 vehicles, including passenger service vehicles, on his side.
According to Seka, the impact could be felt by those who import goods through Dar port and those transiting goods through Rwanda, especially the DR Congo business community.
According to the Rwanda Revenue Authority (RRA), customs officials handle 280 cargo trucks on the Central Corridor every day.
Rain-triggered disasters, including flash floods and landslides, have affected many people across east Africa in recent weeks.
In Rwanda, heavy rains on Sunday and Monday killed at least five people and injured many others while infrastructure was also damaged.
Last week, the Rwanda Meteorology Agency made “above normal” rainfall predictions for the next three months. Since last September, heavy rains have claimed dozens of lives, devastated property and jeopardised food security with out-of-chain food prices until now.
Experts have said that the current rains have been enhanced by a phenomenon called the Indian Ocean Dipole (IOD).
The phenomenon, also known as the Indian Niño, is an irregular oscillation of sea surface temperatures in which the western Indian Ocean becomes alternately warmer (positive phase) and then colder (negative phase) than the eastern part of the ocean.
It is reported that, when positive, IOD can cause a rise in water temperatures in the Indian Ocean of up to 2C. This leads to higher evaporation rates off the east African coastline and this water then falls inland.
jkaruhanga@newtimesrwanda.com
Tanzania starts repairs on road linking to Rwanda
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komora096
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Hahahaa!!chukua kinywaji baridi mkuu, yani umeongea ukwel mtupu..
Yani kwao kuovertake kenya ni mpka waombe mabaya yatokee, ina maana wanaomba sana kenya isikae stable kisa hawana uwezo wa kuipiku kenya bila maafa yyte kutokea
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Mimi nashauri hicho kipande wapewe mainjinia wetu tuone kama wameiva baada ya kushiriki ujenzi wa sgr dar Dodoma wakiwa na yap makenzi
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Lwiva
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Mambo ya ziwa na meli ni kupoteza Pesa bure tujenge reli hadi Uganda tutakuwa tumefanya jambo kubwa sana kiuchumi
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Geza Ulole
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Mh bado mzee unajua wanahitaji wawezeshwe kwenye vifaa ingependeza phase ya 5 hivi au hata Mtwara-Bamba bay! Hii ya sasa inahitaji speed na preciseness na vifaa! Serikali inabidi iji-mobilize upande huo kwanza!
Lwiva
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SGR kama reli nikitu chenye kukuwa hivyo baadae inatakiwa iwe na matawi to kigoma to kagera" bukoba" nk hivyo usiseme ajenge reli nyingineUmesomea Jiografia wapi wewe? Yaani JPM aache kuifikisha reli Mwanza itakapoweza kuungana na Kampala kwa ziwa Victoria meli zikiwepo zipo tayari na kuiharakisha SGR ifike Kigali na Bijumbura kutokea Isaka ajenge mpya kupitia Kagera! Ubinafsi kama huu wako hauzingatia nia njema ya kukamata masoko ya nchi landlocked. wewe ni kama wale wanaong'ang'ania SGR ipite Kigoma ndo iingie Burundi badala ya kujenga Isaka Keza na kuua ndege wawili kwa jiwe moja kwanza! na ku-secure nchi za Rwanda na Burundi kutuia central corridor na kutoa nafasi ya kufika DRC mapema na hata kama nchi za Rwanda na Burundi zitakataa still kujenga Isaka-Kigoma na kutumia ferries haitakuwa kupoteza!
You probably better read this map carefully! Priority for now is Isaka Mwanza and Isaka-Keza before anything else!
MY TAKE
Hii maneno ya watu wa Kigoma kubisha ati lazma SGR ipite Kigoma ni kukosa uelewa ni kama watu wa reli ya Tanga Moshi waanze kubisha ati kwamba SGR ilipaswa kupita kwanza Moshi maana kama reli Tanzania ya kwanza kujengwa ilikuwa Tanga-Moshi!
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Geza Ulole
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hebu pitia nilichoandika! Wacha kukurupuka! Nimeongelea priority for now! Tawi la Kagera halina umuhimu kwa sasa ikizingatiwa kuna meli za kubeba treni zinaundwa Lake Victoria na kuna uhakika wakujengwa ya Isaka-Mwanza! Kuna watu mngekuwa Marais humu mngefanya mambo yasiyo na tija! Mna akili za Zitto!
Geza Ulole
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Na hawezi kufanya ujinga mnaoungeleaa humu baadhi yenu ati ajenge reli wakati kuna meli mbili mpya za kubeba treni na kuifikisha Bukoba na Kampala zishasainishwa ukiacha zilizofanyiwa rehabilitation! Anaangalia strategic moves zaidi! Nazo ni kufika market ya Uganda na DRC kupitia Rwanda na Burundi! Hizo +700km ya kutoka Isaka kwenda Uganda inamaliza Makutupora-Mwanza!
Lwiva
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Kwani hivyo vifaa si vyakununua tu tatizo nini ! Uenda hata $40mil inatosha kuvinunua tena tutavitumia kujenga branch nyingi kwenye sgr day to day
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Tatizo hapo linakuja ni vifaa mkuu