Cost comparison SGR Kenya vs SGR Tanzania
Cost comparison SGR Kenya vs SGR Tanzania
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You know even with everyone having their opinion on the Kenyan SGR, one fact is undeniable, it the only fully functioning SGR in the region.
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Yes,the only 1880's SGR that operates in EAC!
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meter guage railway !
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SGR budget around $865 mln set aside for SGR phases III IV n V
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Alafu walevi wa chang'aa mnapiga kelele Magu afunge mipaka hizi pesa zote mtampa? Nyie wehu nn[emoji3][emoji3]
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Yah km kawa, hapo ilikuwa inatoa mzigo bandarini inapeleka kunako ICD mupyaa kabisa iliyopo kwala nje ya jiji la Dar lengo ni kupunguza msongamano wa mizigo pale port ya Dar pia kupunguza msongamano wa magari na kupunguza masaa ya usafiri wa Transit [emoji3][emoji3][emoji3]
SGR nonetheless. Holla back when yours is fully functional.....it's ok I'll wait
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Hii budget ya 2020-2021 ni do or die budget that will make SGR Tanzania break ahead na ita-set apart the central corridor from Northern corridor!
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Hii Bajeti kiboko ya midomomidomo, ikiwa implemented effectively basi 2021 ni habari nyingine.
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Mbona hamtumii SGR ya kisasa kutoa mizigo bandarini hadi hapo ICD mpya? Hili swali niliuliza wenzako kitambo sana nikatukanwa, hapo kwa hio video wanasema wamefika 75% ya ujenzi sijaona wakiongelea vile SGR itafikishwa bandarini ndo itoe mizigo huko hadi hapo ICD.
Reli ya SGR iko only a few meters from TPA HQ na bandari la Dar, why use slow and inneficient MGR kupeleka mizigo 90km from the port alau kutoka hapo ICD ndo SGR ichukue mizigo na kuipeleka mbele?
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Part (iii) inasema kuboresha, si kujenga kitu kipya bali kuboresha kitu ambachotayari kiko, which is Meter Gauge Rail... Na wamesema uboreshaji huo unaisha Juni 2020, sahii tuko May kwahivyo ni mwezi ujao watakua wamemaliza, kama ingekua ni SGR ungekua ushaona ujenzi wake ukielekea hapo bandarini sahii.. Kwahivyo inamaanisha SGR yenu haitafika Bandarini licha ya kua iko meter chache tu mbele ya Bandari..Mizigo itahamishwa na MGR hadi ICD alafu ndo SGR ipokee na kupeleka mbele.
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Sikua najua kuna vitu vinaongezwa ili kuwezesha SGR Kenya kusafirisha loose cargo more efficiently
Kuna hio sehemu hapo chini mkono wa kulia, palikua empty hapo awali
Kumbe wamekua wanajenga grain silos, mi hata sikua najua. Hapa ni karibu na Nairobi ICD
Tena sasa wameongeza reli hadi hapo kwa grain silo ambayo itakua ni automated pamoja na conveyor belts
Kuna hio sehemu hapo chini mkono wa kulia, palikua empty hapo awali
Kumbe wamekua wanajenga grain silos, mi hata sikua najua. Hapa ni karibu na Nairobi ICD
Tena sasa wameongeza reli hadi hapo kwa grain silo ambayo itakua ni automated pamoja na conveyor belts
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Pitia SGR line will be in built in those 3 births 5-7 that U/C at the moment!
http://mwtc.go.tz/uploads/publications/en1588592456-HOTUBA - WUUM (2020-21).pdf
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Hii ni thread ya ku compare Kenya SGR VS Tanzania SGR.. Kwahivyo kama hautaki tukague SGR yenu basi jiondoe hapa!
Kutakua na gharama ya:
1. kushukisha mzigo kutoka kwa meli hadi chini.
2. Kupakia mzigo huo kwa MGR na kuusafirisha 90km hadi ICD.
3. Kushukisha mzigo huo kutoka treni ya MGR na kuupakia kwa treni ya SGR na kusafirisha hadi mbele.....
Kwahivyo kutumia MGR itaongeza gharama ambazo mungeweza kuzi avoid kama SGR ndo ingekua inatoa mzigo bandarini moja kwa moja....
Hizi ndo changamoto ambazo tulikua nazo pale awali huku kwa SGR Kenya, yani ile garama ya usafirishaji wa mzigo kupitia SGR ni beo poa sana tena ya chini, lakini kuna 'hidden costs' nyingi sana mpaka ukijumlisha unakuta afadhali usafirishe mzigo wako na lory kutoka bandarini hadi kwakomlangoni yaishe!
Wakati huo tukikumbwa na hizi changamoto watanzania mlikua mnatucheka sana mnasema hatuna akili, nikawaambia hizi ni changamoto hata nyinyi mtapitia kabla mjipange vizuri na ku streamline, sasa naona nyinyi hata manjiongezea shida zaidi kwa hutumia MGR kutoa mizigo bandarini
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so kwa akili yako treni za sgr zikifika kwa meli itabidi zisafirishwe kwa trucks mpaka kwa SGR line kama Kunyaland sio? 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 👇
Mtu amejibiwa!
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Mbali na hio Grain Silo inayojengwa kando ya Nairobi ICD
Kuna SGR Dry Bulk Terminals zinajengwa Athi River which is like 15km from Nairobi ICD.
Sample kutoka kwa ESIA report ya hizo dry bulk terminals ambazo zitakua zinapokea Fertilizer, Simiti, clinker,chemicals, coals..etc
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2.2 Design Concept
The Dry Bulk Handling Terminal for non-food products such as clinker, coal and fertilizer will comprise several components among them a standard gauge railway siding, conveyors, diesel powered generators, weigh bridges, Six (6) flat sheds, one (1) with a capacity of 38,500m3, two (2) with a capacity of 40,000m3, two (2) with a capacity of 46,900m3and one (1) with a capacity of 60,000m3, bag loading stations and an administrative block.
At the proposed SGR siding, there will be a tipping pit for the sole purpose of collecting cargo that has been discharged from containers being carried on the wagons. Inside this tipping pit will be a conveyor system with a flow capacity of 600 tonnes/hour for moving bulk cargo to the storage flat sheds. To minimize dust emissions, the tipping pit and the conveyor system will havetheir dust collection systems. Once in the flat sheds, the product can be stored long term or act as a buffer in the event that trains bringing in cargo to the terminal exceed deliveries to Clients by truck. In the event that Clients need to pick their cargo, the cargo will be released from the flat sheds to a conveyor belt system underneath that is dedicated to deliveries at a flow rate of 300t/h. These conveyors will delivercargo to the bulk loading station or to the bagging station through an elevator. Trucks will then be loaded, weighed and dispatched. The bagging station and bulk loading points will all have dust suppression systems in place to minimize dust emissions.
2.3 Planned Scope of Works
The construction phase of the project will entail various works that can be categorized in to mechanical works, electrical and instrumentation works and civil works. Being a new site at Athi River, downtime shall not need to be considered. The initial proposal is to fabricate majority of the structural works off-site at a designated area for hot works. These shall then be connected on site so as to have ample working space.
To enable GBHL to handle bulk cargo consisting of fertilizer, clinker and coal in Athi River, a storage terminal needs to be constructed together with all associated conveyor systems as below:
The mechanical and piping engineering work to be carried out shall include:
Source: Aaraldi
Kuna SGR Dry Bulk Terminals zinajengwa Athi River which is like 15km from Nairobi ICD.
Sample kutoka kwa ESIA report ya hizo dry bulk terminals ambazo zitakua zinapokea Fertilizer, Simiti, clinker,chemicals, coals..etc
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2.2 Design Concept
The Dry Bulk Handling Terminal for non-food products such as clinker, coal and fertilizer will comprise several components among them a standard gauge railway siding, conveyors, diesel powered generators, weigh bridges, Six (6) flat sheds, one (1) with a capacity of 38,500m3, two (2) with a capacity of 40,000m3, two (2) with a capacity of 46,900m3and one (1) with a capacity of 60,000m3, bag loading stations and an administrative block.
At the proposed SGR siding, there will be a tipping pit for the sole purpose of collecting cargo that has been discharged from containers being carried on the wagons. Inside this tipping pit will be a conveyor system with a flow capacity of 600 tonnes/hour for moving bulk cargo to the storage flat sheds. To minimize dust emissions, the tipping pit and the conveyor system will havetheir dust collection systems. Once in the flat sheds, the product can be stored long term or act as a buffer in the event that trains bringing in cargo to the terminal exceed deliveries to Clients by truck. In the event that Clients need to pick their cargo, the cargo will be released from the flat sheds to a conveyor belt system underneath that is dedicated to deliveries at a flow rate of 300t/h. These conveyors will delivercargo to the bulk loading station or to the bagging station through an elevator. Trucks will then be loaded, weighed and dispatched. The bagging station and bulk loading points will all have dust suppression systems in place to minimize dust emissions.
2.3 Planned Scope of Works
The construction phase of the project will entail various works that can be categorized in to mechanical works, electrical and instrumentation works and civil works. Being a new site at Athi River, downtime shall not need to be considered. The initial proposal is to fabricate majority of the structural works off-site at a designated area for hot works. These shall then be connected on site so as to have ample working space.
To enable GBHL to handle bulk cargo consisting of fertilizer, clinker and coal in Athi River, a storage terminal needs to be constructed together with all associated conveyor systems as below:
The mechanical and piping engineering work to be carried out shall include:
- Construction of Standard gauge railway siding to enable trains to come to site with loaded cargo;
- Installation of two(2) Bagged fertilizer warehouses;
- Installation of one (1)Bulk fertilizer warehouse;
- Installation of one (1) Clinker warehouse;
- Installation of one (1) Coal warehouse
- Installation of two (2)wagon unloading stations
- Power supply to all conveyor systems
- Power supply to all metering units, load computers etc
- Installation of switchboards and MCC as well as cable tray routes
- Control cabling for motors, slide gates, weighbridges etc;
- Lighting for the facility
- All additional instrument installation materials, such as field junction boxes, GI conduit cable support, cable tray, ducts, compression fittings, cable glands, instruments support, etc., as required for the system; and
- Minor civil works like chipping of pavement and grouting on the pavements the instruments panels/support, and chipping and refilling of the pavement for conduits.
- Demolitions and disposals as required;
- New drainage system for the facility
- All required structures to support conveyor system and loading points including column plinths and steelworks;
- Cladding for all bulk loading points and towers as required; and
- All necessary anchors and cast HD bolts.
Source: Aaraldi
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Ndio na mimi nashangaa
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so kwa akili yako treni za sgr zikifika kwa meli itabidi zisafirishwe kwa trucks mpaka kwa SGR line kama Kunyaland sio? 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 👇
Mtu amejibiwa!
Hio ni treni ya MGR iliokua inapelekwa nanyuki, hio si SGR Kenya!
Alafu usijifanye kucheka wenzako, si nyinyi ndo mliangusha kile kichwa cha treni kilichokuja kufanya majaribio kwa SGR yenu 😇
FYI, Treni za Kenya zilishukishwa hadi juu ya SGR moja kwa moja
