Cost comparison SGR Kenya vs SGR Tanzania

[Bantugbro]

Parliamentary committee on Finance and National Planning heading to Naivasha -- Inspecting Kenya Railways projects

Are these pictures meant to showcase the best SGR passenger wagons you have up in the north?

 

[Geza Ulole]

Are these pictures meant to showcase the best SGR passenger wagons you have up in the north?

Kwani Mkunya anajua value of money? Ukimwambia SGR Kenya ni MGR Tanzania atabisha siku nzima!

 

[carter]

Sema tu wewe ni mvivu na hujui kutumia data katika argument, wacha kelelle nyingi ambazo hazitasaidia mtu yeyote... Kama NBS wametoa data na unataka kuiona si ukaitafute uilete hapa, unaniuliza mimi nikuletee sababu gani? ama ni google ndo haujui kutumia?? Watanzania msaidieni mwenzenu ajue kutumia mtandao..

Vipi mkunya, hutaki tena kuongea Kwa data? Share data bhana za NBS acha kulia lia hapa.

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[dickchiller]

Katafute story ya Wode Maya, the whole reason Wode Maya alifukuzwa China ni kwasababu ya hio video... Anasema alipewa $10,000 USD aje afanye hio video na alipewa script ya kile atakachosema! Akatimiza yote except for one part ambapo aliambiwa aseme wakenya walikua wanatumia Giraffe kama means of transport kabla wachina watujengee SGR!

But anyway, kuna Video alifanya ya huko China kabla aje Kenya, ambapo alipanda bullet train ya 300kh/hr huko China, alafu akashuka na kupanda 'slow train' ya 160km/hr akiwa huko huko China... Sasa next series ya hio video ndo alikuja Kenya kupanda SGR ya Kenya ambayo ilikua ni exactly ile slow train aliopanda kule China, ndo hio video ikawekwa title hio kwamba "Kenya's SGR is Chinese slow train" manake hio SGR yetu ni sawa na ile slow train yao ya 160km/hr..........

So ata hio SGR yenu bado ni Chinese slow train!

Weka link otherwise I don't trust you

 

[muhogo_kiks]

Katafute story ya Wode Maya, the whole reason Wode Maya alifukuzwa China ni kwasababu ya hio video... Anasema alipewa $10,000 USD aje afanye hio video na alipewa script ya kile atakachosema! Akatimiza yote except for one part ambapo aliambiwa aseme wakenya walikua wanatumia Giraffe kama means of transport kabla wachina watujengee SGR!

But anyway, kuna Video alifanya ya huko China kabla aje Kenya, ambapo alipanda bullet train ya 300kh/hr huko China, alafu akashuka na kupanda 'slow train' ya 160km/hr akiwa huko huko China... Sasa next series ya hio video ndo alikuja Kenya kupanda SGR ya Kenya ambayo ilikua ni exactly ile slow train aliopanda kule China, ndo hio video ikawekwa title hio kwamba "Kenya's SGR is Chinese slow train" manake hio SGR yetu ni sawa na ile slow train yao ya 160km/hr..........

So ata hio SGR yenu bado ni Chinese slow train!

Acha uongo wewe. Eti Wode Maya alifukuzwa China.

Hebu leta proof hapa kabla sijakuita muongo.

 

[Bantugbro]

Kilosa electrical SGR station
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Nimeipenda design ya Kilosa station....

 

[Tz_one]

Wadau kuna issue ina ni mix kidogo mweyne clarification labda Simon Geza Ulole mnisaidie last year TRC ordered Electric Locomotives worth 60 mil usd from Germany and south korea....kuna sehemu nimesoma tumeorder 6 Electric Locomotives which are Euro Stadler....je hizo locomotives nyingne zitakuaa ngap na fro. the 1st order ?? ya 60 mil usd

Najua 2nd order ya Hyundai Rotem ni 10 EMUs with 8 rail cars each making a total of 80 rail cars worth 190 mil usd and 17 electric locomotives worth 105 mil usd

hii first order sijaieleawa mtu yeyote anieleweshe

 

[coodip1]

Wadau kuna issue ina ni mix kidogo mweyne clarification labda Simon Geza Ulole mnisaidie last year TRC ordered Electric Locomotives worth 60 mil usd from Germany and south korea....kuna sehemu nimesoma tumeorder 6 Electric Locomotives which are Euro Stadler....je hizo locomotives nyingne zitakuaa ngap na fro. the 1st order ?? ya 60 mil usd

Najua 2nd order ya Hyundai Rotem ni 10 EMUs with 8 rail cars each making a total of 80 rail cars worth 190 mil usd and 17 electric locomotives worth 105 mil usd

hii first order sijaieleawa mtu yeyote anieleweshe

Hii first order naona imefanywa kimyakinya na nina mashaka nayo sana na inawezekana wakati kuna mgogoro wa tender baada ya mkandarasi mmoja kulalamika tender ikarudiwa na kuchelewesha zoezi kama zaidi ya mwaka serikali ikaingia mkataba wa kuagiza trains lakini information zake hazipo kabisa ila tumeona Sung Shin Rolling Stock ya Korea wanatengeneza passengers coaches 59 na zitavutwa na locomotives from Germany ili kuanza huduma haraka ila za korea ambazo ni EMU zitakuja baadae kidogo.

 

[Geza Ulole]

Wadau kuna issue ina ni mix kidogo mweyne clarification labda Simon Geza Ulole mnisaidie last year TRC ordered Electric Locomotives worth 60 mil usd from Germany and south korea....kuna sehemu nimesoma tumeorder 6 Electric Locomotives which are Euro Stadler....je hizo locomotives nyingne zitakuaa ngap na fro. the 1st order ?? ya 60 mil usd

Najua 2nd order ya Hyundai Rotem ni 10 EMUs with 8 rail cars each making a total of 80 rail cars worth 190 mil usd and 17 electric locomotives worth 105 mil usd

hii first order sijaieleawa mtu yeyote anieleweshe

sina uhakika!

 

[Tz_one]

Hii first order naona imefanywa kimyakinya na nina mashaka nayo sana na inawezekana wakati kuna mgogoro wa tender baada ya mkandarasi mmoja kulalamika tender ikarudiwa na kuchelewesha zoezi kama zaidi ya mwaka serikali ikaingia mkataba wa kuagiza trains lakini information zake hazipo kabisa ila tumeona Sung Shin Rolling Stock ya Korea wanatengeneza passengers coaches 59 na zitavutwa na locomotives from Germany ili kuanza huduma haraka ila za korea ambazo ni EMU zitakuja baadae kidogo.

Mkataba wa pili wa korea una 10 emus each 8 rail cars na 17 electric locomotives hizi ndo za kuvuta mabehewa

Mkataba wa kwanza ukikuwa unasema wameagiza kutoka Germany na Skorea 22 Locomotives na Mabehewa 1430...labda ni mixed orders ila na jua Wa Germany kuna tetesi wanasema ni Euro stadler ziko 6 ..amabzo ni dual yani Electric na Disel..sasa hizo 16 zilizobaki sina uhakika kama zote ni za South korea au la..

 

[coodip1]

Mkataba wa pili wa korea una 10 emus each 8 rail cars na 17 electric locomotives hizi ndo za kuvuta mabehewa

Mkataba wa kwanza ukikuwa unasema wameagiza kutoka Germany na Skorea 22 Locomotives na Mabehewa 1430...labda ni mixed orders ila na jua Wa Germany kuna tetesi wanasema ni Euro stadler ziko 6 ..amabzo ni dual yani Electric na Disel..sasa hizo 16 zilizobaki sina uhakika kama zote ni za South korea au la..

TRC hawajajipanga too much conflicting information kwenye vitu vikubwa kama hivi sijui kwanini mambo wasiweke wazi wanaficha nini au kuna upigaji?

 

[Tz_one]

TRC hawajajipanga too much conflicting information kwenye vitu vikubwa kama hivi sijui kwanini mambo wasiweke wazi wanaficha nini au kuna upigaji?

Hii ni video ya 2 years ago lakin..sema wawe wazi tujue total EMUs na Electric locos fron Germany ad South Korea ni ngapi..in total are the 42 ??or what lets wait and see

 

[Kafrican]

Mombasa port area

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BTW hii picha ilikua sijaiangalia vizuri, were it not for the tiny yellow structures/houses, unaweza fikiria hii picha imepigwa somewhere in a 1st world country..

 

[Kafrican]

If kenyan cargo train travels at top speed of 80kph this will average a speed of 50kph per trip same as out MGR before revamp. Tz cargo trains with top speed of 120kph will average a speed of 100kph per trip this means tz cargo train will spend 7 hours on 700km stretch while kenyan cargo train will spend 14 hours on a same stretch. This is to say tz cargo trains travel at twice the speed of kenyan cargo trains hence more cargo hauled per annum.

Kenya freight trains 80km/hr is the average speed! Jipange vizuri alafu ndo urudi tena

 

[Kafrican]

Weka link otherwise I don't trust you

Acha uongo wewe. Eti Wode Maya alifukuzwa China.

Hebu leta proof hapa kabla sijakuita muongo.

Eti nyinyi ndo mnajifanya mashabiki wa Wode Maya na hamjui story yake, what a shame... We unafikiria kwanini Wode Maya hua anakasirika akitembelea nchi ya kiafrica alafu asimamiswe na polisi na kupigwa,kutukanwa au hata kufukuzwa wakati kule China alikofukuzwa Wachina walikua hawabagui kulingana na nchi uliotoka, mtu yoyote mweusi anabaguliwa ...


Anyway, mpaka nipitie video kadhaa zake ndo nipate tena hio sehemu akieleza hio story, sijui kama nikiwaletea hio video ndo mtanilipa nini manake mnanipa kazi ya Bure. Je nikiwaletea ushahidi mtaomba msamaha kwa ku suggest kwamba mi muongo?

 

[Kafrican]

Vipi mkunya, hutaki tena kuongea Kwa data? Share data bhana za NBS acha kulia lia hapa.

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Nilikuuliza ulete za Tz Kwanza, ziko wapi mbona sijaona???

 

[coodip1]

BTW hii picha ilikua sijaiangalia vizuri, were it not for the tiny yellow structures/houses, unaweza fikiria hii picha imepigwa somewhere in a 1st world country..

Vitu vingi tuu ukiacha hivyo vibanda hapo vinaonesha hiyo pic haiko kwenye first world country ukitizama kwa umakini utaona ni jointed rail ambayo vilevile haina catenary cables ambazo ni norm kwa nchi za wenzetu.

 

[coodip1]

Kenya freight trains 80km/hr is the average speed! Jipange vizuri alafu ndo urudi tena

Average or top speed?

 

[Kafrican]

Average or top speed?

Freight top speed ni 100km, average speed is 80km/hr. So your calculations are based on wrong assumptions!

 

[Kafrican]

Vitu vingi tuu ukiacha hivyo vibanda hapo vinaonesha hiyo pic haiko kwenye first world country ukitizama kwa umakini utaona ni jointed rail ambayo vilevile haina catenary cables ambazo ni norm kwa nchi za wenzetu.

A container marshaling yard with catenary poles? Hihi