David Ndii Na Msumari Wa Moto SGR Ya Kenya

asvptx · Jul 14, 2018

Mkikuyu- Akili timamu said:
Transit cargo covers a greater distance and is more profitable.This transit cargo is owned by congolese and ugandan businessmen for which we are subsidizing with borrowed money,previously they were paying the bill and never asked for any subsidy even from their own governments . The max capacity of SGR is 8m tons per year which is equvalent to all the cargo from mombasa bound for outside kenya. For SGR to recoup its investment, it must concentrate on the profitable transit cargo.So the question is- Who then will carry the less profitable kenya bound cargo? will it not be back on the roads destroying the roads? negating the very essence of building SGR?

I don't quite seem to be getting your point of view. But l will try explaining regardless.

Subsidising attracts more players, thus more revenue. Doesn't matter the nationality.

On what basis did you get the maximum capacity of SGR though? Remember, more freight trains will be put to work, and the cargo trains will also do double stacking of containers thus transporting more containers than before. Put this with regards that Mombasa port (2018) annual tonnage is about 26million

Who will carry Kenya bound cargo?? What do you mean? That's the main objective of these trains. Kenyan cargo will be left at the NBO ICD, (more will be transported to the Naivasha dry port once completed) . In fact with this subsidy, business guys will prefer the SGR to the trailers and other logistic players.

JUAN MANUEL · Jul 14, 2018

Mwanzi1 said:
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Yani maziwa na tusker ndio yatalipia deni la SGR.

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Bail out, bail out, bail out....

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Hichi ndio kinacho washinda Waganda, kwani wakabebe deni to cover up bad chooses za Kenya?

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Wachina, Mungu anawaona mjuwe eh!

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Hapa ndio kuna habari yote, wale wenye mashaba Nakuru ndio watafaidika na SGR. Sio waswalihina wenzangu wa Mombasa.

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God damn

Huyu jamaa angekuwa bongo,harafu anaikosoa serikali namba hii,yangemkuta ya Tundu Lisu,

Mkikuyu- Akili timamu · Jul 14, 2018

asvptx said:
I don't quite seem to be getting your point of view. But l will try explaining regardless.

Subsidising attracts more players, thus more revenue. Doesn't matter the nationality.

On what basis did you get the maximum capacity of SGR though? Remember, more freight trains will be put to work, and the cargo trains will also do double stacking of containers thus transporting more containers than before. Put this with regards that Mombasa port (2018) annual tonnage is about 26million

Who will carry Kenya bound cargo?? What do you mean? That's the main objective of these trains. Kenyan cargo will be left at the NBO ICD, (more will be transported to the Naivasha dry port once completed) . In fact with this subsidy, business guys will prefer the SGR to the trailers and other logistic players.

You dont get it, SGR can only come close to breaking even if it carries 8m tons per year of the most profitable cargo(Transit) . The fallacy of double stacked trains was debunked by KIPPRA- The government owned think tank. The installed capacity was supposed to be 22m tons per year but the chinese installed 8m tons.
When the whole thing collapses under credit stress, you will finally know that matunda ya tano tena ni Gùtee like your brothers in muthurwa. But for now enjoy the show

Geza Ulole · Jul 14, 2018

asvptx said:
I don't care. I don't give a **** about your accounts.

Focus on what's at hand. Have you seen how I've deconstructed your notions on the SGR and the port of Mombasa?

Yeah!

U deconstructing me? Na whaooo...

asvptx · Jul 14, 2018

Mkikuyu- Akili timamu said:
You dont get it, SGR can only come close to breaking even if it carries 8m tons per year of the most profitable cargo(Transit) . The fallacy of double stacked trains was debunked by KIPPRA- The government owned think tank. The installed capacity was supposed to be 22m tons per year but the chinese installed 8m tons.
When the whole thing collapses under credit stress, you will finally know that matunda ya tano tena ni Gùtee like your brothers in muthurwa. But for now enjoy the show

Agree to disagree. [emoji1479]

I'm not well versed with the numbers concerning the SGR

mwaswast · Jul 14, 2018

Mwanzi1 said:
No, Mkikuyu amesema haina maana ya kuwa na 8million tons a year cargo capacity, wakati mizigo ya nje ndio hiyo hiyo 8million tons. Itabidi mchaguwe kubeba mizigo ya ndani kwa barabara au kutumia meter gauge ya zamani. Which symbolize kama hakuna SGR. Badala ya kushambukia hoja, mna mshamulia mtoa hoja.

Yenu ikibeba hata one gram unitag.

Mwanzi1 · Jul 14, 2018

mwaswast said:
Yenu ikibeba hata one gram unitag.

Tusikutag kwani wewe Mungu? Tutaku-tag tuu utake usitake [emoji23]

mwaswast · Jul 14, 2018

Mwanzi1 said:
Tusikutag kwani wewe Mungu? Tutaku-tag tuu utake usitake [emoji23]

Unitag yenu ikebeba hata gram moja ya mzigo...tihihihihi 😀😀😀😀

mzalendoalltz · Jul 16, 2018

MK254 said:
Waaapi mdebwedo tu....mngekua na bidii hamungeongoza Afrika kwa umaskini huku mkiwa na raslimali zaidi ya mataifa yote ya Afrika.

Hahaha...... hivi ninyi mna maskini wanaokufa njaa, umaskini wetu ni just moderate. halafu Kenya ni nchi ya ajabu sana, mlikuwa mnauwana kwa sababu ya katiba ati katiba yetu ni the best lakini tangu muanze kutumia katiba hiyo ufisad uliofanyika ni wa kupindukia. Sasa tuwaweke kwenye kundi la wajinga au wapumbavu poleni sana, kazi yenu kuumiza wananchi wasio na hatia kwa kuwabebesha mizigo ya maisha tuuuu.

MK254 · Jul 16, 2018

mzalendoalltz said:
Hahaha...... hivi ninyi mna maskini wanaokufa njaa, umaskini wetu ni just moderate. halafu Kenya ni nchi ya ajabu sana, mlikuwa mnauwana kwa sababu ya katiba ati katiba yetu ni the best lakini tangu muanze kutumia katiba hiyo ufisad uliofanyika ni wa kupindukia. Sasa tuwaweke kwenye kundi la wajinga au wapumbavu poleni sana, kazi yenu kuumiza wananchi wasio na hatia kwa kuwabebesha mizigo ya maisha tuuuu.

Bro SGR safu ya pili 70% na ile ya kwanza 500km tumeitumia hadi kukinai wakati nyie mnahangaika kukoroga zege, sijui kama mtafikia kutumia hako kasafu kenu ka 200km kutafutia CCM kura.

David Ndii Na Msumari Wa Moto SGR Ya Kenya

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