David Ndii Na Msumari Wa Moto SGR Ya Kenya

[Mkikuyu- Akili timamu]

Difference ya akina Thika road na hizo bypasses kwa SGR basi ni gani? Na usiseme pesa kwa sababu SGR is such a huge project, obviously it required/requires a lot of capital.

The Chinese built these roads and bypasses not so long ago and the economical transformation in various regions is massive. The loans have been repayed (not certain). Same will happen with the SGR.

Mtalia hapa waChina ooh sijui wizi lakini at the end of the day, SGR ni ya waKenya and the ripple effects will be huge on a scale you can't fathom

My advice: When addressing such projects going on in neighboring countries, don't be filled with ill thoughts and jealousy about them . After all, your country is building your own SGR. Focus on what's yours. If it's criticism, let it be CONSTRUCTIVE criticism

What economic sense does it make for a Railway To subsidize cargo for Uganda and Congo? Using Tax payer money mostly borrowed at high intrest to give rebates to ugandans and congolese importers. According to KIPPRA, The installed carrying capacity is 8m tons per year which is equivalent to all transit cargo out of mombasa. So all our kenya bound cargo will be back on the roads hauled by trucks as SGR chases the more lucrative transit cargo.
What if this money being used to subsidize Ugandan and congolese Mitumba importers was used to produce maize and revive the sugar sector?

 

[MK254]

Nyie hamna reli. Ile ni ya mChina ilaimejengwa kwenye ARDHI YENYU.

Wewe nini kinakupa tabu, leo hii tunasafiri kwa SGR, tunachana mbuga Mombasa to Nairobi and back, na sasa tupo kwenye safu ya pili ya ujenzi nyie mkiendelea na Bongo flavor kwa kasafu ka 200km Dar to Moro.

 

[asvptx]

What economic sense does it make for a Railway To subsidize cargo for Uganda and Congo? Using Tax payer money mostly borrowed at high intrest to give rebates to ugandans and congolese importers. According to KIPPRA, The installed carrying capacity is 8m tons per year which is equivalent to all transit cargo out of mombasa. So all our kenya bound cargo will be back on the roads hauled by trucks as SGR chases the more lucrative transit cargo.
What if this money being used to subsidize Ugandan and congolese Mitumba importers was used to produce maize and revive the sugar sector?

Geza, you think these things you guys are talking about weren't thought through? You seriously think KENYA would embark on such a project if we were getting a bad deal?

My friend, relieve yourself from such worries, take a back seat and watch this space.

Focus on your own SGR. You guys could actually make a very good panel to give tips, lessons and analyses to the team undertaking Tanzania's SGR construction

 

[Mwanzi1]

Wewe nini kinakupa tabu, leo hii tunasafiri kwa SGR, tunachana mbuga Mombasa to Nairobi and back, na sasa tupo kwenye safu ya pili ya ujenzi nyie mkiendelea na Bongo flavor kwa kasafu ka 200km Dar to Moro.

Huku mnauwa simba na nyati, hamna anayejali bora kuna reli ya mchina wanyama shauri yao.

 

[Mwanzi1]

Geza, you think these things you guys are talking about weren't thought through? You seriously think KENYA would embark on such a project if we were getting a bad deal?

My friend, relieve yourself from such worries, take a back seat and watch this space.

Focus on your own SGR. You guys could actually make a very good panel to give tips, lessons and analyses to the team undertaking Tanzania's SGR construction

Pause and take note, Mkikuyu gave you facts and figures wewe uneleta utani.

 

[mwaswast]

Pause and take note, Mkikuyu gave you facts and figures wewe uneleta utani.

Fact ni kuwa hamna a functioning SGR hata metre moja.

 

[Geza Ulole]

Geza, you think these things you guys are talking about weren't thought through? You seriously think KENYA would embark on such a project if we were getting a bad deal?

My friend, relieve yourself from such worries, take a back seat and watch this space.

Focus on your own SGR. You guys could actually make a very good panel to give tips, lessons and analyses to the team undertaking Tanzania's SGR construction

The way u keep mentioning me as if I said these words! It seems Mkikuyu- Akili timamu has punched u flat a KO! Keep on with that obsession towards me!

 

[kirumonjeta]

Tender: competitive bidding
Financier - GoT under JPM
Designer - COWI
Consultant - KOICA
Operator -TRC
Constructors - Yapi Merkezi + Mota-Engil Engenharia e Construção África

Hivi haiwezi andikwa Financer-GoT bila kuongeza hilo neno????

 

[Mwanzi1]

Fact ni kuwa hamna a functioning SGR hata metre moja.

No, Mkikuyu amesema haina maana ya kuwa na 8million tons a year cargo capacity, wakati mizigo ya nje ndio hiyo hiyo 8million tons. Itabidi mchaguwe kubeba mizigo ya ndani kwa barabara au kutumia meter gauge ya zamani. Which symbolize kama hakuna SGR. Badala ya kushambukia hoja, mna mshamulia mtoa hoja.

 

[asvptx]

No, Mkikuyu amesema haina maana ya kuwa na 8million tons a year cargo capacity, wakati mizigo ya nje ndio hiyo hiyo 8million tons. Itabidi mchaguwe kubeba mizigo ya ndani kwa barabara au kutumia meter gauge ya zamani. Which symbolize kama hakuna SGR. Badala ya kushambukia hoja, mna mshamulia mtoa hoja.

Check your stats. Port of MOMBASA handles around 26 million not 8m. And, that 26 millions is increasing exponentially. Around 2030 that port will handle more than 40 million. What's that you were saying about viability and economic sense again??

 

[Geza Ulole]

Hivi haiwezi andikwa Financer-GoT bila kuongeza hilo neno????

Give dues where belongs! Couldn't happen under any leader till JPM took power.

 

[Geza Ulole]

Check your stats. Port of MOMBASA handles around 26 million not 8m. And, that 26 millions is increasing exponentially. Around 2030 that port will handle more than 40 million. What's that you were saying about viability and economic sense again??

Una ugonjwa wa kuhara wewe at Mombasa port handles 26 mln tons?

 

[asvptx]

The way u keep mentioning me as if I said these words! It seems Mkikuyu- Akili timamu has punched u flat a KO! Keep on with that obsession towards me!

The fact that this was the 1st time I'm mentioning you with regards to that mkikiyu whatever account, and it's got you riled up further proves that this account could actually be yours.

Don't feel smart. You are just but a regular forumer here

 

[asvptx]

Una ugonjwa wa kuhara wewe at Mombasa port handles 26 mln tons?

22* million (2017)

I wonder where you got that 8 million figure. Don't just make up numbers. Do some research nigga

 

[asvptx]

Give dues where belongs! Couldn't happen under any leader till JPM took power.

How long before you start referring to him as "mtukufu rais" ??

Autocratic society. Dictatorial tendencies

 

[asvptx]

No, Mkikuyu amesema haina maana ya kuwa na 8million tons a year cargo capacity, wakati mizigo ya nje ndio hiyo hiyo 8million tons. Itabidi mchaguwe kubeba mizigo ya ndani kwa barabara au kutumia meter gauge ya zamani. Which symbolize kama hakuna SGR. Badala ya kushambukia hoja, mna mshamulia mtoa hoja.

22 million* and this is a figure from 2017 [emoji23] [emoji23]

 

[MK254]

Huku mnauwa simba na nyati, hamna anayejali bora kuna reli ya mchina wanyama shauri yao.

Wewe jamaa huwa huna aibu kabisaaa, hivi una taarifa kwamba Tanzania ndio kinara wa ujangili wa wanyama pori duniani, tembo mnaua kwa maelfu, simba mnaua 250 kila mwaka, kwenu meno ya simba yanasafirishwa kwa ndege. Mauaji ya kimbari kwa ndovu, ndani ya miaka mitano mlipunguza ndovu kwa asilimia 60% Tanzania elephant population declined by 60% in five years, census reveals

Poachers kill 250 lions annually in Tanzania

 

[Geza Ulole]

The fact that this was the 1st time I'm mentioning you with regards to that mkikiyu whatever account, and it's got you riled up further proves that this account could actually be yours.

Don't feel smart. You are just but a regular forumer here

what makes u think it's me n not a fellow Kenyan though way smarter than u!

 

[asvptx]

what makes u think it's me n not a fellow Kenyan though way smarter than u!

I don't care. I don't give a https://jamii.app/JFUserGuide about your accounts.

Focus on what's at hand. Have you seen how I've deconstructed your notions on the SGR and the port of Mombasa?

Yeah!

 

[Mkikuyu- Akili timamu]

Geza, you think these things you guys are talking about weren't thought through? You seriously think KENYA would embark on such a project if we were getting a bad deal?

My friend, relieve yourself from such worries, take a back seat and watch this space.

Focus on your own SGR. You guys could actually make a very good panel to give tips, lessons and analyses to the team undertaking Tanzania's SGR construction

Transit cargo covers a greater distance and is more profitable.This transit cargo is owned by congolese and ugandan businessmen for which we are subsidizing with borrowed money,previously they were paying the bill and never asked for any subsidy even from their own governments . The max capacity of SGR is 8m tons per year which is equvalent to all the cargo from mombasa bound for outside kenya. For SGR to recoup its investment, it must concentrate on the profitable transit cargo.So the question is- Who then will carry the less profitable kenya bound cargo? will it not be back on the roads destroying the roads? negating the very essence of building SGR?